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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2020 14:44:01 GMT -5
Ehh He said some shitty shit he shouldn't have said and realized he is wrong. Agreed, but it bothers me to see people “summarize” what people say as worse than what was actually said/or how it was intended. Like some people saying he said “f*** poor people” essentially. That’s what leads to people that didn’t follow along just taking hard line stances based on those summaries. You can absolutely read it as f*** poor people tho. It was badly worded and can be left up to interpretation
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Post by Chiral on Mar 27, 2020 14:44:26 GMT -5
I haven’t been watching so I’m a little lost, why are people not wanting to work Weestlemanina? I know about the virus, but they’ve been working the empty arena Raws and Smackdowns. What’s changed? By the sound of things Miz showed up sick and that started the ball rolling for wrestlers pulling out. It's kinda hard to keep up with the news when threads go full debate club.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 27, 2020 14:45:05 GMT -5
Seems the talk of more wrestlers pulling out of WM is real. Meltzer is trying to get a full list but Andrade is also listed. This topic needs to be changed to "Multiple wrestlers pull out of Mania." It's bigger than Roman. Andrade apparently suffered an injury recently (not one relating to any viral infection), hence why he’s being pulled.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 27, 2020 14:46:58 GMT -5
Admittedly I don't watch really but going with Braun seems like it's striking after you've taken the iron out of the fire and let it sitting in a show bank overnight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 14:47:17 GMT -5
Seems the talk of more wrestlers pulling out of WM is real. Meltzer is trying to get a full list but Andrade is also listed. This topic needs to be changed to "Multiple wrestlers pull out of Mania." It's bigger than Roman. Andrade apparently suffered an injury recently (not one relating to any viral infection), hence why he’s being pulled. Man can't get a break.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 27, 2020 14:48:45 GMT -5
Agreed, but it bothers me to see people “summarize” what people say as worse than what was actually said/or how it was intended. Like some people saying he said “f*** poor people” essentially. That’s what leads to people that didn’t follow along just taking hard line stances based on those summaries. You can absolutely read it as f*** poor people tho. It was badly worded and can be left up to interpretation He has yet to realize he is wrong. He showed nothing to show he realizes he was wrong.And it wasn't vaguely or badly worded either, he was very direct about what he meant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 14:49:34 GMT -5
The rumor with a big list of names not wrestling isn't 100% true. One guy who was on that list (Owens) was confirmed to have wrestled per Meltzer.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2020 14:51:14 GMT -5
I haven’t been watching so I’m a little lost, why are people not wanting to work Weestlemania? I know about the virus, but they’ve been working the empty arena Raws and Smackdowns. What’s changed? I'm guessing people are finally starting to get sick and instead of being careless they are pulling out Roman already has an illness and he couldn't risk it. Reports are Miz got sick. Anybody with a small cold is basically off the show or taking themselves off the show and others probably can't leave their state or willing to risk it
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 27, 2020 15:05:13 GMT -5
Agreed, but it bothers me to see people “summarize” what people say as worse than what was actually said/or how it was intended. Like some people saying he said “f*** poor people” essentially. That’s what leads to people that didn’t follow along just taking hard line stances based on those summaries. You can absolutely read it as f*** poor people tho. It was badly worded and can be left up to interpretation Don’t know how to embed tweets but he did clarify a lot of his comments. “Where the hell did I say stop being poor lol. I said sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you is all. Never took a dig at being poor. Life’s tuff I know we’ve all been through crap.” “Not saying don’t dream at all. Everyone is taking this so far out of context. It’s this simple sometimes you have to change your dreams. Trust me I know that’s a hard pill to swallow but twice in my life I’ve given up what I loved because I couldn’t survive doing it thats all”. “I literally donated 5k of my own money to research this week and have been working really hard with company’s I’m affiliated with to help with charity’s and to get funds and supply’s to people that can’t physically take care of there selfs.” “Man I was raised with very little and what I’ve gotten in life took a lot of work. I hate the term celebrity I’m a redneck with a cool job. Sucks not being able to work I’m right there with everyone. I’m honored y to o be able to help people in need.” “Where did I bash anyone. I never said it was dumb what they are doing I’m all about people living the best life and enjoying it but sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you and explore other avenues. Thus what i said about me leaving a sport I loved.” Still off-base with some of these comments, especially since we’re in the midst of a pandemic with people losing their jobs (which he didn’t really mention, seems he was making more general statements).
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 27, 2020 15:24:42 GMT -5
You can absolutely read it as f*** poor people tho. It was badly worded and can be left up to interpretation Don’t know how to embed tweets but he did clarify a lot of his comments. “Where the hell did I say stop being poor lol. I said sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you is all. Never took a dig at being poor. Life’s tuff I know we’ve all been through crap.” “Not saying don’t dream at all. Everyone is taking this so far out of context. It’s this simple sometimes you have to change your dreams. Trust me I know that’s a hard pill to swallow but twice in my life I’ve given up what I loved because I couldn’t survive doing it thats all”. “I literally donated 5k of my own money to research this week and have been working really hard with company’s I’m affiliated with to help with charity’s and to get funds and supply’s to people that can’t physically take care of there selfs.” “Man I was raised with very little and what I’ve gotten in life took a lot of work. I hate the term celebrity I’m a redneck with a cool job. Sucks not being able to work I’m right there with everyone. I’m honored y to o be able to help people in need.” “Where did I bash anyone. I never said it was dumb what they are doing I’m all about people living the best life and enjoying it but sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you and explore other avenues. Thus what i said about me leaving a sport I loved.” Still off-base with some of these comments, especially since we’re in the midst of a pandemic with people losing their jobs (which he didn’t really mention, seems he was making more general statements). And he needs to do more to clean up and clarify It is good he is showing he made a mistake but hopefully this teaches him to not open his mouth before thinking. He's on the right step but he f***ed himself over as this isn't the first time his mouth has got him in trouble
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Mar 27, 2020 15:26:38 GMT -5
You can absolutely read it as f*** poor people tho. It was badly worded and can be left up to interpretation Don’t know how to embed tweets but he did clarify a lot of his comments. “Where the hell did I say stop being poor lol. I said sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you is all. Never took a dig at being poor. Life’s tuff I know we’ve all been through crap.” “Not saying don’t dream at all. Everyone is taking this so far out of context. It’s this simple sometimes you have to change your dreams. Trust me I know that’s a hard pill to swallow but twice in my life I’ve given up what I loved because I couldn’t survive doing it thats all”. “I literally donated 5k of my own money to research this week and have been working really hard with company’s I’m affiliated with to help with charity’s and to get funds and supply’s to people that can’t physically take care of there selfs.” “Man I was raised with very little and what I’ve gotten in life took a lot of work. I hate the term celebrity I’m a redneck with a cool job. Sucks not being able to work I’m right there with everyone. I’m honored y to o be able to help people in need.” “Where did I bash anyone. I never said it was dumb what they are doing I’m all about people living the best life and enjoying it but sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you and explore other avenues. Thus what i said about me leaving a sport I loved.” Still off-base with some of these comments, especially since we’re in the midst of a pandemic with people losing their jobs (which he didn’t really mention, seems he was making more general statements). OK, that's..slightly more context. But the stuff about people just 'changing your dream' when a ton of people literally cannot work because the company they work for can't let them work safely? Super tone deaf and I'm glad he seemed to realize that this isn't the time or place for this boot straps rah rah mantra. And as for this Mania? Sounds like maybe it's a bad idea and it needs to not happen?
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 27, 2020 15:35:54 GMT -5
Don’t know how to embed tweets but he did clarify a lot of his comments. “Where the hell did I say stop being poor lol. I said sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you is all. Never took a dig at being poor. Life’s tuff I know we’ve all been through crap.” “Not saying don’t dream at all. Everyone is taking this so far out of context. It’s this simple sometimes you have to change your dreams. Trust me I know that’s a hard pill to swallow but twice in my life I’ve given up what I loved because I couldn’t survive doing it thats all”. “I literally donated 5k of my own money to research this week and have been working really hard with company’s I’m affiliated with to help with charity’s and to get funds and supply’s to people that can’t physically take care of there selfs.” “Man I was raised with very little and what I’ve gotten in life took a lot of work. I hate the term celebrity I’m a redneck with a cool job. Sucks not being able to work I’m right there with everyone. I’m honored y to o be able to help people in need.” “Where did I bash anyone. I never said it was dumb what they are doing I’m all about people living the best life and enjoying it but sometimes in life you have to change what is important to you and explore other avenues. Thus what i said about me leaving a sport I loved.” Still off-base with some of these comments, especially since we’re in the midst of a pandemic with people losing their jobs (which he didn’t really mention, seems he was making more general statements). OK, that's..slightly more context. But the stuff about people just 'changing your dream' when a ton of people literally cannot work because the company they work for can't let them work safely? Super tone deaf and I'm glad he seemed to realize that this isn't the time or place for this boot straps rah rah mantra. And as for this Mania? Sounds like maybe it's a bad idea and it needs to not happen? Mania already happened. Doesn’t sound like any big matches were too affected outside of Roman-Goldberg. And yes I think his changing your dream comments were more in general as obviously people would have trouble doing that in the middle of a pandemic. Time and place.
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Post by edgestar on Mar 27, 2020 15:36:28 GMT -5
Doubt it, but it is there center to use for situations like this They are getting Mania out the way and most likely shutting shit down for a while They aren't shutting down if the old man is stubborn enough to put on this Wrestlemania in front of an empty crowd he's stubborn enough to keep going with terrible empty arena shows afterwards But look at the bright side: when was the last time you saw a crowd reaction shot? If anything gets put into place, where the PC, or any place where a lot of people would gather, can't be open, then, they have to shut down. Roman is absolutely making the best decision. His health is more important, than being in another title match.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 27, 2020 15:37:14 GMT -5
Ehh He said some shitty shit he shouldn't have said and realized he is wrong. Also to counteract the whole “misinterpreting what he said idea”, he didn’t clarify what he meant when he said it so unless he comes out and says what he means and apologizes, it’s full reign to what people take from it. That’s why he needs to have a wide reaching apology. He did clarify what he meant, see my post on page 16. Not perfect but gives some context at least.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Mar 27, 2020 15:51:42 GMT -5
Too bad that Rusev is going through his contract issues because the dude would have deserved that match.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 27, 2020 16:14:37 GMT -5
While I don't think it's that big a deal in the scheme of things he's being disingenuous with his comments there.
His intent was clear from his initial statements about people begging for money and whatnot.
What he's done there is a deflection about why what he said he wasn't actually wrong.
I'm not even saying he needs to apologize to anyone, but that definitely isn't one.
If you're going to say I'm sorry then do that. If not just stand behind your comments entirely without the song and dance.
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Post by KofiMania on Mar 27, 2020 16:18:43 GMT -5
While I don't think it's that big a deal in the scheme of things he's being disingenuous with his comments there. His intent was clear from his initial statements about people begging for money and whatnot. What he's done there is a deflection about why what he said he wasn't actually wrong. I'm not even saying he needs to apologize to anyone, but that definitely isn't one. If you're going to say I'm sorry then do that. If not just stand behind your comments entirely without the song and dance. Those are the comments he made immediately after his initial tweet, not comments he came out with after the fact.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 27, 2020 16:20:55 GMT -5
And that's still a deflection. The timetable doesn't much enter into it.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 27, 2020 16:27:41 GMT -5
Braun cant be champion, his face is too small for his head
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Post by Starshine on Mar 27, 2020 16:35:05 GMT -5
Braun is the champion WWE deserves.
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