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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 7:11:06 GMT -5
Doing away with the Spider-marriage was the right move. In some ways this is true, but not in the way you actually think.
They didn't 'do away with it', there were still ten years or so of Spider-Marriage stories in either the newspaper strip or the short-lived Renew Your Vows, and they wound up giving the role of the multiverse pattern weaver to RYV Peter's daughter, essentially making him a more important Spider-Man than the 616 version. If anything, the Spider-Marriage benefited a lot from being 'demoted' more so than the mainline Spidey comics did by having it stricken from history.
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Post by mike1287 on Apr 14, 2020 7:11:38 GMT -5
Marvel needs a Crisis-level event to reboot. Correction: the X-Men do. On that subject, Marvels bitch-fit over Grant Morrison actually writing Magneto as a villain is a travesty. I never really bought into the "this mass murdering nutbag is totes a good guy" narrative. And pairing him off with Rogue (whose young enough to be his great granddaugther) is gross. I don't mind Magneto as a shades of grey type character, but had no problem with Morrison's take on him as a drug-huffing "mad old terrorist tw*t".
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 14, 2020 7:14:32 GMT -5
Correction: the X-Men do. On that subject, Marvels bitch-fit over Grant Morrison actually writing Magneto as a villain is a travesty. I never really bought into the "this mass murdering nutbag is totes a good guy" narrative. And pairing him off with Rogue (whose young enough to be his great granddaugther) is gross. I don't mind Magneto as a shades of grey type character, but had no problem with Morrison's take on him as a drug-huffing "mad old terrorist tw*t". The dumbest thing about it was that if you still wanted to make Magneto sympathetic again, they already had the "mind controlling drugs" excuse to fall back on. But no let's just pretend it wasn't Magneto at all and come up with the single stupidest and most convoluted Retcon I've ever heard to justify it. And for some insane reason Grant Morrison still gets blamed for the Retcon when it was actually Chris Claremont who threw the temper tantrum over someone else playing with one of his toys. Completely killed any interest I ever had in reading another Claremont story.
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 7:22:56 GMT -5
That's an unpopular opinion? I thought it was consensus Civil War was probably the worst thing about the Quesada years at Marvel, with Civil War II the ultimate low for Bendis, Captain Marvel, and the company in the 2010s. No, I’ve run into some folks who liked it. To each their own, but it always rubbed me the wrong way. I know it was a hot ticket in the day, it's just retrospectively a lot more I've found have grown to hate the original Civil War, It took a long time for Iron Man to recover from it, which brings me to my next unpopular opinion..Brian Micheal Bendis' Iron Man was the best the character had been since Civil War.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Apr 14, 2020 7:32:33 GMT -5
The walking dead comic took a serious dive about half way through the run. The peak was around volume 8.
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Post by ERON on Apr 14, 2020 7:51:25 GMT -5
Grant Morrison's New X-Men should have been the Ultimate X-Men series. Mark Millar's Ultimate comics, X-Men or otherwise, should never have happened.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 14, 2020 8:45:43 GMT -5
Tim Drake us the least interesting member of the Bat Family and every attempt to make him interesting has fallen flat.
Donny Cates's run with Venom is amazing but his take on Guardians of the Galaxy was his best work in the last year
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 8:53:50 GMT -5
Immortal Hulk is unreadable pseudo-intellectual garbage filled with unlikable characters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 10:03:48 GMT -5
I don't know if this is wholly unpopular or just something that splits opinions, but I prefer classic suit Wolverine over Douchey Tanktop McWeirdhair Wolverine all the way.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 14, 2020 10:15:55 GMT -5
Grant Morrison's New X-Men should have been the Ultimate X-Men series. Mark Millar's Ultimate comics, X-Men or otherwise, should never have happened. I read Millar’s Ultimate X-Men recently, holy f***. No wonder I stuck to reading only Ultimate Spider-Man back in the day.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Apr 14, 2020 10:35:19 GMT -5
Green Goblin (all versions) is a terrible villain
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 14, 2020 10:46:34 GMT -5
Green Goblin (all versions) is a terrible villain Green Goblin as Lex Luthor-like mastermind against the Avengers sucked as a status quo. Batman’s “Family” is far more interesting than he is.
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Post by ERON on Apr 14, 2020 10:53:03 GMT -5
Norman Osborn should never have returned from the dead.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 14, 2020 11:11:33 GMT -5
Green Goblin (all versions) is a terrible villain The only time I enjoyed him since they brought him back was in Thunderbolts, where he was written as a nutbag loser.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 14, 2020 13:44:58 GMT -5
I have a ton...
Chuck Dixon is the best Batman writer of all time.
All Mark Millar has ever created is cynical garbage.
Jim Lee is the most overhyped artist of all time, as Scott Williams never gets any credit for being his inker on just about everything.
The Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans is the best traditional superhero team comic of all time.
The Bat-Family is way too big.
Chris Claremont was great with ideas but horrendous with written word.
I hate the very suggestion of Marvel/DC crossovers.
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is far better than his other works.
Mainstream comics should operate from model sheets. Until the 90's, characters in comics typically had a consistency between books. Look at the transition of Batman between Neal Adams and Jim Aparo. But then the 90's hotshot artist boom happened, and ever since we've been dealing with crap art from the likes of Humberto Ramos in our books.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2020 14:06:43 GMT -5
No, I’ve run into some folks who liked it. To each their own, but it always rubbed me the wrong way. I know it was a hot ticket in the day, it's just retrospectively a lot more I've found have grown to hate the original Civil War, It took a long time for Iron Man to recover from it, which brings me to my next unpopular opinion..Brian Micheal Bendis' Iron Man was the best the character had been since Civil War. Grant Morrison's New X-Men should have been the Ultimate X-Men series. Mark Millar's Ultimate comics, X-Men or otherwise, should never have happened. When Millar's work gets adapated to things it is almost unilaterally hands down better than the original comics... because they take out a lot of the cringey edge lord stuff like throwing babies out of windows. or Tony Stark and Co. being Fascists... including Reed Richards... which is especially weird becuase Millar had a great run on the Fantastic Four.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 14, 2020 15:38:42 GMT -5
Cassandra Cain was the best Batgirl and introduced a lot of elements to the Batfamily that could have really done with being explored further before turning her Heel, which was one of the stupidest moves possible. How is that an unpopular opinion? I have not nor do I ever wish to meet a Batgirl fan who thinks otherwise.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2020 17:11:34 GMT -5
Cassandra Cain was the best Batgirl and introduced a lot of elements to the Batfamily that could have really done with being explored further before turning her Heel, which was one of the stupidest moves possible. How is that an unpopular opinion? I have not nor do I ever wish to meet a Batgirl fan who thinks otherwise. There are a lot of Barbara Fans. Unless you mean the heel turn part cause yes that was stupid... and I don't think I've met anyone that said otherwise.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 14, 2020 17:13:59 GMT -5
I meant the heel turn, but mostly the shafting of Cassandra Cain in general. (Looking at you BOPINO. (Birds Of Prey In Name Only.)
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2020 17:19:28 GMT -5
I meant the heel turn, but mostly the shafting of Cassandra Cain in general. Well yeah, I don't think most people would find that unpopular.
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