XPW Pogo the Clown

[Sephiroth]

The passing of Brian Dennehy brought this to mind, as one of his most memorable roles was when he played John Wayne Gacy for a television movie. For any not aware: Gacy was one of America’s most notorious serial killers. He is believed to have murdered upwards of 30 young men in the Chicago area, and is most noted for being a real life killer clown, as he was known to moonlight from his job as a construction contractor by dressing as a clown to do magic shows at kids parties. Goes without saying, not a guy you want to emulate outside of true crime documentaries.

And yet back in the early 2000’s, California based XPW did just that with a wrestler called Pogo the Clown, which btw was the name Gacy used for his clown alter ego. The wrestler wore makeup that was a dead ringer for Gacy’s, and he used a finisher called “buried in the basement,” which was how Gacy disposed of the bodies of his victims. This guy even carried a shovel to the ring, and I recall he even had an American flag on his shovel for a show right after 911. Even more damning, they did promos of Pogo hanging out on a playground, eyeballing little kids, and his most notable feud was seeking to dominate “Angel the hardcore homo.” No, I did not make that up-XPW actually had a wrestler under that moniker.

It goes without saying that wrestling will never be accused of goood taste. But this one really was a low that would put even Katie Vick to shame. On top of the sheer grossness of such a gimmick, the guy playing the character pretty well sucked in the ring-big shock he ended up in XPW, right? He was just fat and slow and got blown up incredibly easy. Or is there anything I am forgetting?

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

[Talent Name]

There was also Tool a wrestling gimp and there was a Pogo Promo where he was burying bodies in the desert

[chazraps]

Wow, the more I learn about John Wayne Gacy, the less I care for him.

[honsou]

Apr 20, 2020 7:00:10 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

The guys for Dark Side of the Ring needed to get in contact with Rob Black to use the XPW footage for the New Jack doc. Apparently he was extremely difficult to find but they did find him flipping burgers in upstate New York.

[Shark]

Fun fact, one of the mainstays of XPW, GQ Money, aka Ryan Katz, is now a producer with NXT. You'd know him as the presenter from the Vaudevillains entrance video.

[Rudy Gobert Fingers]

Apr 20, 2020 17:11:19 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Wow, the more I learn about John Wayne Gacy, the less I care for him.

#johnwaynegacyisoverparty

[Sephiroth]

Apr 20, 2020 17:20:45 GMT -5 honsou said:

Apr 20, 2020 7:00:10 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

The guys for Dark Side of the Ring needed to get in contact with Rob Black to use the XPW footage for the New Jack doc. Apparently he was extremely difficult to find but they did find him flipping burgers in upstate New York.

I pity anyone who ate a burger he flipped. That guy is so scuzzy, he could wash his hands a thousand times and it ain't washing off.

[Larryhausen]

Apr 20, 2020 17:36:51 GMT -5 Shark said:

Fun fact, one of the mainstays of XPW, GQ Money, aka Ryan Katz, is now a producer with NXT. You'd know him as the presenter from the Vaudevillains entrance video.

Also one of the absolute nicest human beings on the planet. Dude's nickname is Smiley for a reason.

[Redbeard's Ghost]

For a slew of reasons(including being asked by a wrestler friend of mine), I worked an XPW show as security in 2003. This was supposedly going to be a PPV called "Battle of the Burgh". I saw firsthand the shitshow that was XPW. Angel, the "gay" wrestler, almost got legit killed in a dive spot. They destroyed a set of bleachers that the college used for basketball games. They had advertised a battle royale later in the show but half the wrestlers left right after their matches. A mess.

There were some big names on the show - Candido, Justin Credible, Juvi Guerrera, Jerry Lynn, etc. Last show I ever worked, since the college never allowed wrestling back into the arena again.

[kingoftheindies]

Apr 20, 2020 17:20:45 GMT -5 honsou said:

Apr 20, 2020 7:00:10 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

The guys for Dark Side of the Ring needed to get in contact with Rob Black to use the XPW footage for the New Jack doc. Apparently he was extremely difficult to find but they did find him flipping burgers in upstate New York.

Well for various reasons, Rob has made himself a lot of enemies both in 2... controversial (for lack of a better word) in wrestling and adult films. He kind of has to lay low.

[Shark]

Apr 20, 2020 19:28:00 GMT -5 Redbeard's Ghost said:

For a slew of reasons(including being asked by a wrestler friend of mine), I worked an XPW show as security in 2003. This was supposedly going to be a PPV called "Battle of the Burgh". I saw firsthand the shitshow that was XPW. Angel, the "gay" wrestler, almost got legit killed in a dive spot. They destroyed a set of bleachers that the college used for basketball games. They had advertised a battle royale later in the show but half the wrestlers left right after their matches. A mess.

There were some big names on the show - Candido, Justin Credible, Juvi Guerrera, Jerry Lynn, etc. Last show I ever worked, since the college never allowed wrestling back into the arena again.

I grew up in Southern California and would watch their shows when they'd appear on local access and they were total garbage. It was ECW with less budget and less talent. It really did exist in that void between the end of ECW and WCW and the start of TNA and ROH. Were able to get names WWE didn't want.

[Natural Born Farmer]

Apr 20, 2020 17:20:45 GMT -5 honsou said:

Apr 20, 2020 7:00:10 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

The guys for Dark Side of the Ring needed to get in contact with Rob Black to use the XPW footage for the New Jack doc. Apparently he was extremely difficult to find but they did find him flipping burgers in upstate New York.

Rob Black is one of a handful of people I check for every once in awhile on social media in anticipation of their lives ending in total obliteration. I had not seen this, but I thought he was hosting a podcast. Apparently his now ex wife has been traveling around the southwest visiting porn conventions and selling toys. I had no idea that was an industry.

[Deleted]

Angel unironically was a good worker.

Pogo feuded with the Sandman once and I remember a promo where a drunken Sandman (is there any other?) was apologizing to his son about a clown beating him up.

[Brandon Walsh is Insane.]

Apr 20, 2020 17:20:45 GMT -5 honsou said:

Apr 20, 2020 7:00:10 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

It was XPW. Everything involving Rob Black is gross, so it didn't really stand out. When you intentionally send people to murder the guy who was banging your wife and they cut off his thumb, everything else is just window dressing. Come to think of It, if the Tiger King people want to do another series, Rob Black is right there.

The guys for Dark Side of the Ring needed to get in contact with Rob Black to use the XPW footage for the New Jack doc. Apparently he was extremely difficult to find but they did find him flipping burgers in upstate New York.

Yep and they said they didn’t know about Blacks past. Oops.

[Deleted]

Problem with XPW's Pogo was that he looked like an overweight juggalo. He didn't fully commit to the gimmick.

[Mozenrath]

My dad, uncle, and aunt met Gacy once. Shockingly, he was a dick.

As for Pogo, yeah, it's trashy, as it is whenever people use Charles Manson iconography with wrestling directly, which has happened plenty of times. It just feels a bit too on the nose.

[El Pollo Guerrera]

Apr 20, 2020 17:36:51 GMT -5 Shark said:

Fun fact, one of the mainstays of XPW, GQ Money, aka Ryan Katz, is now a producer with NXT. You'd know him as the presenter from the Vaudevillains entrance video.

Wasn't he also the ring announcer for Wrestling Society X, the MTV show?

[Shark]

Apr 20, 2020 23:27:27 GMT -5 El Pollo Guerrera said:

Apr 20, 2020 17:36:51 GMT -5 Shark said:

Fun fact, one of the mainstays of XPW, GQ Money, aka Ryan Katz, is now a producer with NXT. You'd know him as the presenter from the Vaudevillains entrance video.

Wasn't he also the ring announcer for Wrestling Society X, the MTV show?

He was yeah. His insanity was my favorite part of that show honestly.

[chazraps]

Has John Wayne Gacy ever commented on the wrestler's gimmick?