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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 14:52:26 GMT -5
People who grumble about games being too easy today and yearn for the NES era difficulty forget that many of those games with only 4 lives and no continues or save points were made so you'd spend money for strategy guides and cheat codes. Or designed to steal your quarters as they were Arcade ports.
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Post by Fundertaker on Apr 20, 2020 14:56:02 GMT -5
Final Fantasy 7 is just an average FF at the end of the day. Not the greatest, not the worst, just average. That said, it is the most overrated (albeit a lot less than a decade ago).
Skyward Sword is an upper exchelon Zelda game, especially when it comes to the emotional parts of the story.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 15:01:42 GMT -5
The Kingdom Hearts series has barely any memorable original music and all of the battle tracks people usually bring up to counter that argument are just a bunch of generically epic bleh that are completely indistinguishable from each other.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 20, 2020 15:06:24 GMT -5
That place until the foreseeable future is putting the franchise on the backburner Great now you depressed me. Without spoiling anything, after finishing FF7 Remake everyone has every reason in the world to be afraid Nomura is going to ruin things with his trademark faux-intellectual storytelling. I got a few chapters left and heard the ending has been controversial so i'm bracing myself for it Nomura can't help himself but to overthink things and f*** shit up
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 20, 2020 15:07:39 GMT -5
The Kingdom Hearts series has barely any memorable original music and all of the battle tracks people usually bring up to counter that argument are just a bunch of generically epic bleh that are completely indistinguishable from each other. Yea, I was just bout to bring up KH Visiting all these worlds don't mean a f***ing thing but it takes up 80% of our story and the other 20% is Nomura madness
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 15:07:50 GMT -5
Final Fantasy 7 is just an average FF at the end of the day. Not the greatest, not the worst, just average. That said, it is the most overrated (albeit a lot less than a decade ago). Skyward Sword is an upper exchelon Zelda game, especially when it comes to the emotional parts of the story. The only issues I had with Skyward Sword were how often they repeated areas... and then stretched out you being there... but it's hardly the first Zelda game to have needless padding... the triforce in Wind Waker for instance...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 15:09:14 GMT -5
The Kingdom Hearts series has barely any memorable original music and all of the battle tracks people usually bring up to counter that argument are just a bunch of generically epic bleh that are completely indistinguishable from each other. Yea, I was just bout to bring up KH Visiting all these worlds don't mean a f***ing thing but it takes up 80% of our story and the other 20% is Nomura madness I really have no idea why anyone cares about the plot of Kingdom Hearts. Any part of me that was invested died during that, "Goofy's dead, wait nevermind, Maleficent has the Heartless, nevermind she's completely useless to the plot and Xemnas does, the villain wants us to keep killing Heartless so we better keep killing Heartless," scene in 2 and it's not like the games had amazing storytelling to that point. Hell, I'm still pretty much entirely unclear on what the titular Kingdom Hearts even is.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 15:12:25 GMT -5
Yea, I was just bout to bring up KH Visiting all these worlds don't mean a f***ing thing but it takes up 80% of our story and the other 20% is Nomura madness I really have no idea why anyone cares about the plot of Kingdom Hearts. Any part of me that was invested died during that, "Goofy's dead, wait nevermind, Maleficent has the Heartless, nevermind she's completely useless to the plot and Xemnas does, the villain wants us to keep killing Heartless so we better keep killing Heartless," scene in 2 and it's not like the games had amazing storytelling to that point. Hell, I'm still pretty much entirely unclear on what the titular Kingdom Hearts even is. Kingdom Hearts has the most needlessly complex utter nonsense of a story... even more so than the utter nonsense of Final Fantasy 13 ... >_> I mean one of the key story points is that the Letter X is not REALLY the letter X.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 15:19:35 GMT -5
I really have no idea why anyone cares about the plot of Kingdom Hearts. Any part of me that was invested died during that, "Goofy's dead, wait nevermind, Maleficent has the Heartless, nevermind she's completely useless to the plot and Xemnas does, the villain wants us to keep killing Heartless so we better keep killing Heartless," scene in 2 and it's not like the games had amazing storytelling to that point. Hell, I'm still pretty much entirely unclear on what the titular Kingdom Hearts even is. Kingdom Hearts has the most needlessly complex utter nonsense of a story... even more so than the utter nonsense of Final Fantasy 13 ... >_> I mean one of the key story points is that the Letter X is not REALLY the letter X. Speaking of given the 9 / Q stuff in Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors.... As much as 999 seems to be the Zero Escape entry that people are mostly aware of and the one that really gets the most praise, Virtue's Last Reward is the actual best game in the series. It has a stronger cast and it's much less meandering compared to 999's constantly pausing the game to infodump at you (VLR does often do that too granted, but it tends to be more to the point with it and more varied in its subject matter), or having everyone standing around discussing the math of the doors for way too long. 999 does have advantages over it - it looks better, it's an actual self-contained story instead of effectively being a 30 hour sequel hook, and it doesn't repeat scenes nearly as often - but it is way more of a chore to get through. Either way though Zero Time Dilemma is crap.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 20, 2020 15:20:21 GMT -5
Yea, I was just bout to bring up KH Visiting all these worlds don't mean a f***ing thing but it takes up 80% of our story and the other 20% is Nomura madness I really have no idea why anyone cares about the plot of Kingdom Hearts. Any part of me that was invested died during that, "Goofy's dead, wait nevermind, Maleficent has the Heartless, nevermind she's completely useless to the plot and Xemnas does, the villain wants us to keep killing Heartless so we better keep killing Heartless," scene in 2 and it's not like the games had amazing storytelling to that point. Hell, I'm still pretty much entirely unclear on what the titular Kingdom Hearts even is. The story itself has just gone ass backwards in not knowing what it wants to be but trying to present it like it is some big scheme See KH3 and how the Masters of Masters who has been built up in the f***ing mobile games is now a key guy along with another character who's name i'm forgetting right now What the f*** even is Kingdom Hearts at this point and more importantly does it even matter?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 20, 2020 15:21:37 GMT -5
Zelda games never captured my attention but I did buy BOTW for my Switch and it has done a good job with it thus far
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 20, 2020 15:32:36 GMT -5
Justin Wong’s MvC2 tier list is flawed. Felicia actually has some really good combos, you’re not supposed to grab with her. Blackheart is kinda clunky and it’s too easy to tee off him for high damage because of his size, and his offense isn’t as KO-enducing as Sentinel’s. And Anakaris has some very frustrating moves, so he should be ranked higher.
If G01 isn’t the best Chun-Li player ever, he’s at least tied with Ricki Ortiz.
I don’t necessarily mind if people ship Sora with either Riku or Kairi, but for me their three-way canon friendship is appealing enough as it is. Like I get why one could argue for either direction, it’s just not a huge deal as the series’ theme is about love in a general sense, not strictly romantic.
Ryu should have been consistently buffed more during SFV’s peak. It sucks having the poster boy be so low tier because all these high priority combo-freak characters were added.
The Madden series peaked with 2010.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 15:37:20 GMT -5
What the f*** even is Kingdom Hearts at this point and more importantly does it even matter? It was originally sold and marketed as a mash up of Disney and Final Fantasy Characters.... Nomura decided that wasn't what people wanted... and decided his OCs and the pseudo-intellectual philosophy was the selling point of the games... despite his story making no logical sense to anyone... that's before getting into when he starts inventing words and phrases ... (I mean look at some of Lizuka's post above... imagine if you hadn't played anything KH related and what that word salad must feel like to anyone that doesn't know) Or play Final Fantasy 13 for like 15 minutes ... they'll throw so many words and phrases at you at once without bothering to explain them... edit: I also will say it's weird that Disney hasn't shot down any of his ideas... I mean they even let them show a Side view of Mickey... a full side view... that's like the biggest no-no in terms of Disney animation.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 20, 2020 15:43:30 GMT -5
No video game is so sacred or utterly perfect that the idea of it getting a remake is a blasphemous concept, whether it be Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Persona, etc. Yes remakes/remasters/reimaginaings are almost always somewhat profit driven, but a lot of the backlash towards them comes from the idea that your particular favorite game is never be touched while others are fine. I adore Sonic 3 & Knuckles, but if I heard it was being remade tomorrow I would not instantly dismiss it because I thought there was nothing to be done with it.
As commercial and critically successful as Kingdom Hearts as been, it feels like waste that it is the only franchise to actually make use of the idea of Disney characters interacting with a video game setting. A Mario/Mickey crossover hearkening back to Disney's old platformer roots, with the likes of Luigi and Donald as wacky pairing would have me more excited than almost anything from KH.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Apr 20, 2020 15:44:10 GMT -5
People who grumble about games being too easy today and yearn for the NES era difficulty forget that many of those games with only 4 lives and no continues or save points were made so you'd spend money for strategy guides and cheat codes. ALso so you couldn't rent the game and beat it. The video game rental market is a big reason why some US versions of games had the difficultly raised the Japanese release. Hmmm Final Fantasy should have stopped with part 6. 7 wasn't that good. And 8 sucked so much I gave up after about 10 hours. The Zelda franchise is lots of fun when it is 2d. But any of the 3d games are just a chore.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 15:52:51 GMT -5
Probably not an unpopular opinion but... while I do like the game (it is nowhere near one of my favorites but still) ... Final Fantasy 7's translation was garbage...
there are all manner of grammatical errors throughout... and it misses a lot of the charm of 4 and especially 6's.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 20, 2020 16:00:26 GMT -5
What the f*** even is Kingdom Hearts at this point and more importantly does it even matter? It was originally sold and marketed as a mash up of Disney and Final Fantasy Characters.... Nomura decided that wasn't what people wanted... and decided his OCs and the pseudo-intellectual philosophy was the selling point of the games... despite his story making no logical sense to anyone... that's before getting into when he starts inventing words and phrases ... (I mean look at Lizuka's post above... imagine if you hadn't played anything KH related and what that word salad must feel like to anyone that doesn't know) Or play Final Fantasy 13 for like 15 minutes ... they'll throw so many words and phrases at you at once without bothering to explain them... edit: I also will say it's weird that Disney hasn't shot down any of his ideas... I mean they even let them show a Side view of Mickey... a full side view... that's like the biggest no-no in terms of Disney animation. It's like trying to jump into Metal Gear Solid 4 and getting a whole bunch of shit thrown at you that you don't even know about Except you can go back and play Metal Gear and understand the damn game I think it is def weird Disney hasn't shot down ideas considering how protective they are of Mickey in general but they probably don't care enough as weird as that sounds.
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 20, 2020 16:01:07 GMT -5
Kingdom Hearts has the most needlessly complex utter nonsense of a story... even more so than the utter nonsense of Final Fantasy 13 ... >_> I mean one of the key story points is that the Letter X is not REALLY the letter X. Speaking of given the 9 / Q stuff in Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors.... As much as 999 seems to be the Zero Escape entry that people are mostly aware of and the one that really gets the most praise, Virtue's Last Reward is the actual best game in the series. It has a stronger cast and it's much less meandering compared to 999's constantly pausing the game to infodump at you (VLR does often do that too granted, but it tends to be more to the point with it and more varied in its subject matter), or having everyone standing around discussing the math of the doors for way too long. 999 does have advantages over it - it looks better, it's an actual self-contained story instead of effectively being a 30 hour sequel hook, and it doesn't repeat scenes nearly as often - but it is way more of a chore to get through. Either way though Zero Time Dilemma is crap. My favorite thing about Zero Time Dilemma is I used to be friends with Kotaro Uchikoshi and he asked me if there was anything I'd like him to put in the game so I said it'd be cool if he could work my hometown of Sacramento into the plot somehow. If you ever wondered why Akane's Japanese father got in trouble for a murder he didn't commit in Sacramento of all places, thus kicking off a large part of the plot (and opening up the plothole of where the hell these games even take place and what language everyone is speaking and what is even going on), it's my fault.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 16:38:56 GMT -5
I really don't like Breath of the Wild, to the point I don't like playing Link in Smash Ultimate because of his design.
While I applaud the effort to add more single player content to their fighting games, all the Mortal Kombat story modes have been fine at best to bad. I also don't like Netherealm being so adverse to using characters from the early 3D games. Most of them aren't so bad they can't be salvaged with some updates, no matter what Ed Boon thinks.
Sega by and large released a lot of trash for years, going off their own games they've never been as good as Nintendo in my opinion. It's a good thing they have Atlus to fall back on and that Yakuza, which is one of their games I don't really like but do get the appeal of, caught on so much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 20, 2020 16:45:53 GMT -5
While I applaud the effort to add more single player content to their fighting games, all the Mortal Kombat story modes have been fine at best to bad. I also don't like Netherealm being so adverse to using characters from the early 3D games. Most of them aren't so bad they can't be salvaged with some updates, no matter what Ed Boon thinks. I have 0 interest in any story mode in a fighting game... and Netherrealm themselves stories are usually the weakest part of any of their games by far. Also on the other part of that I make the joke about Hsu Hao being the best character in Mortal Kombat... but like... even him who was basically cyborg guy in a hat... is not an unsalvagable character. Yeah, we have "Better" cyborgs... but he's a black market criminal cyborg... make some of his techo parts a mishmash of random parts that have no business being together... clashing metal patterns stuff that was obviously jury-rigged to "fit". Mavado was a pretty neat character too the cool headed criminal mastermind type... as opposed to the brash kill them all Kano ... of course like all of his moves would need to be remapped since he was all about playing with the 3d space (but I guess you could have him grab shit from the background with his hooks and stuff too) those are two I thought of in like 20 seconds each.
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