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Post by horsemen4ever on Apr 24, 2020 20:55:21 GMT -5
So 1986, both Ricky Morton and Road Warrior Hawk had these short programs with Ric Flair. So what if they decided to go full on singles push with one of them, who would you pull the trigger on?
They are both from very popular tag teams, so you be taking the risk, and losing some revenue.
I will go with Ricky, I thought he could have made the transition to singles star. Hawk on the other hand, he is ups on a singles does not come close on the up side of the Road Warriors as a tag team.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 24, 2020 21:00:35 GMT -5
Hawk. Dude got dangerously close to almost putting everything together he needed for a brief time during the period we're talking about here.
Ricky was great as a short-term placement in the main, but he relied far too heavy on being the underdog-in-peril aspect for him to keep that going long-term.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 24, 2020 21:01:39 GMT -5
There was a time when I thought Hawk could have been a huge singles star, but perhaps there is a reason he wasn't. As far as Crockett '86 goes, I guess Ricky might have done the better job with a bigger push.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 24, 2020 21:03:25 GMT -5
Hawk, definitely. He'd probably need to cut back on the no selling, sure, but his biggest hurdle was substance abuse.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 24, 2020 21:04:59 GMT -5
If I recall, Heyman thought Hawk could be someone to build a promotion around in the early/mid 1990s. I'm pretty sure this was during that time that Animal took some years off from wrestling, perhaps under one of those Lloyd's of London deals, though I'm not positive he was on one of those.
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Apr 24, 2020 21:06:24 GMT -5
I prefer Ricky Morton. Hawk was crazy strong and believable, but Morton has a babyface champion works for me.
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Post by Shark on Apr 24, 2020 21:07:07 GMT -5
I'd saw Hawk. He found some singles success in Japan and in Europe in the early 90's when Animal was injured for a long while. Had it not been for an arm injury, he may have had a longer singles run in WCW in 95. He'd fit right in helping Hogan fight the Dungeon.
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Post by cassonova on Apr 24, 2020 21:12:51 GMT -5
If the stars aligned right for the time period, Hawk would be the better choice. Whereas Ricky was a better worker, I don't feel that the babyface in peril would be the best for a sustained main event push, especially if he were to be the champion. Hawk looked like a champion, could wreck things, and was a dynamic personality.
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Post by XIII on Apr 24, 2020 21:14:48 GMT -5
Hawk. Dude looked legit.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 25, 2020 11:55:57 GMT -5
Anyone else's brain read it "Rick Morty?"
Hawk. Could've been up there with the other legendary no-sellers, like Hogan or Warrior.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 25, 2020 11:57:54 GMT -5
I really think had Hawk gone solo full-time, the no-selling would have lessened. Not go away completely, but he would have had to tone it down a tad.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 25, 2020 19:42:26 GMT -5
I'm sure you're right. However, this is "F Your Piledriver" Hawk from Road Warriors fame.  |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Apr 25, 2020 20:45:10 GMT -5
If I recall, Heyman thought Hawk could be someone to build a promotion around in the early/mid 1990s. I'm pretty sure this was during that time that Animal took some years off from wrestling, perhaps under one of those Lloyd's of London deals, though I'm not positive he was on one of those. I believe that because Hawk had a brief run in ECW around 93 or 94. Not sure why it ended other than Hawk was bouncing around a lot of different companies at that time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 20:56:57 GMT -5
Hawk would have been a more badass Sting.
I’ve never understood the appeal of the Rock n Roll Express. Morton would have been a fine transitional champion. But their money was as a unit.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Apr 25, 2020 21:52:39 GMT -5
I wanted Hawk to be champion. The promos alone would have been amazing.
Ricky is the Face In Peril. This doesn't give me confidence in him as a singles guy. But, him as champion for even a short time would have made Flair totally batshit crazy. That would have been fun to watch.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 26, 2020 6:57:38 GMT -5
Hawk in the WWF by a mile, Ricky Morton could easily have main evented in the dying days of the territories though.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 26, 2020 7:08:46 GMT -5
I'm sure you're right. However, this is "F Your Piledriver" Hawk from Road Warriors fame. I’m surprised there isn’t a supercut on YouTube of some of the more infamous times when Hawk no sold. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was at least a segment in a Botchamania or something. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 26, 2020 7:14:38 GMT -5
I’ve never understood the appeal of the Rock n Roll Express. You’re obviously not a horny southern housewife from the 1980s. |
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 26, 2020 7:25:06 GMT -5
I'm sure you're right. However, this is "F Your Piledriver" Hawk from Road Warriors fame. I’m surprised there isn’t a supercut on YouTube of some of the more infamous times when Hawk no sold. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was at least a segment in a Botchamania or something. Haha I'd watch it, and I hope they add a counter on the screen for how many times Hawk sold a piledriver. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}The counter will start and stop at 0. |
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Apr 26, 2020 7:38:26 GMT -5
Against Flair in Crockett in 1986, I'm going to say Ricky Morton as an underdog face. I'm not sure he would've become bona fide singles star, but he was a good hand in the ring and I think he would have done OK. As much as I like the Road Warriors, they both had limitations as workers that were covered when they worked with one another, but I don't think either was capable of sustaining a singles push.
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