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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 12:59:18 GMT -5
Well, they were definitely hinting at Scarecrow being a thing but they can go f*** themselves for killing off Kate. Not only is this souring me on Batwoman, but I suddenly have a bad taste in my mouth about the whole Arrowverse going forward. My enthusiasm for the whole universe has tanked over this. Except maybe Legends, that manages to be it's own thing This is about where I stand in my thoughts I am pretty well and done with Batwonan with the directions they are taking. Still rockin with Legends , Black Lightning and Flash.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 9, 2020 14:03:40 GMT -5
Flash's going to be in a really weird place since the beginning of the next season is going to be finishing off Season 6. Same with Supergirl, though the pandemic certainly gives them a lot more cover for letting Melissa Benoist have a full maternity leave.
But yeah, I'll still give the new Batwoman a chance. But my enthusiasm for S2 is pretty much in the toilet now. And can we stop killing off the prominent Jewish characters? Even Felicity "died" when she joined Oliver at the end of Arrow.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 9, 2020 14:16:18 GMT -5
Well I never watched it anyway so I have no dog in the fight
Sucks they are killing off the main character tho
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 9, 2020 14:22:05 GMT -5
Well I never watched it anyway so I have no dog in the fight Sucks they are killing off the main character tho Killing off a gay Jewish lead character I might add. Because TV has waaaaay too many of those I guess
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Post by thechase on Jun 10, 2020 11:46:28 GMT -5
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Post by H-Virus on Jun 10, 2020 13:22:56 GMT -5
You know what might have been cool? Go full-on ‘Death & Return of Superman’ and have multiple people show up pretending to be Batwoman. Give them all different motivations for putting on the costumes, have them clash with each other over methods or to get rid of competition, have Kate’s friends and associates trying to hunt them down and stop them out of respect for her, have one of them turn out to be evil, and then have Ryan be the last one standing when it’s all over. Then they can do one of two things: if it turns out Ruby doesn’t want to come back, then just have her cameo long enough to explain why she can’t be Batwoman anymore and give Ryan her blessing to carry on the name in her place, or if she does decide to come back, then have Ryan return the role to her only for Kate to take her on as a ‘Robin’ instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 13:29:21 GMT -5
Kate ISN'T being killed off after all confirms Caroline Dries. Instead, Kate's fate will be a mystery that will span season two Gettin on that bike and back peddlin now huh lol they need to bite the f***ing bullet and just recast Kate for f***s sake.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2020 13:35:19 GMT -5
I'm glad to see that Batwoman fans seem to almost universally think this is a bad idea. Also glad to see a number of people calling out the show for erasing a Jewish character even if she isn't killed off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 14:07:20 GMT -5
Flash's going to be in a really weird place since the beginning of the next season is going to be finishing off Season 6. Same with Supergirl, though the pandemic certainly gives them a lot more cover for letting Melissa Benoist have a full maternity leave. But yeah, I'll still give the new Batwoman a chance. But my enthusiasm for S2 is pretty much in the toilet now. And can we stop killing off the prominent Jewish characters? Even Felicity "died" when she joined Oliver at the end of Arrow. I'm Jewish and I can't believe I've never picked up on that as a fan of the Arrowverse shows. They do kill all the Jews, don't they? What the f***?
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2020 14:14:18 GMT -5
Flash's going to be in a really weird place since the beginning of the next season is going to be finishing off Season 6. Same with Supergirl, though the pandemic certainly gives them a lot more cover for letting Melissa Benoist have a full maternity leave. But yeah, I'll still give the new Batwoman a chance. But my enthusiasm for S2 is pretty much in the toilet now. And can we stop killing off the prominent Jewish characters? Even Felicity "died" when she joined Oliver at the end of Arrow. I'm Jewish and I can't believe I've never picked up on that as a fan of the Arrowverse shows. They do kill all the Jews, don't they? What the f***? The worst one I think was Martin Stein, one of the two halves of Firestorm. He was killed during the Crisis On Earth-X crossover. And who were the bad guys of that crossover? Nazis.
Yeaaaah.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 10, 2020 14:39:29 GMT -5
Kate ISN'T being killed off after all confirms Caroline Dries. Instead, Kate's fate will be a mystery that will span season two Gettin on that bike and back peddlin now huh lol they need to bite the f***ing bullet and just recast Kate for f***s sake. The MCU had no problem with recasting Rhodey and Bruce Banner and nobody makes a big fuss about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5
I'm Jewish and I can't believe I've never picked up on that as a fan of the Arrowverse shows. They do kill all the Jews, don't they? What the f***? The worst one I think was Martin Stein, one of the two halves of Firestorm. He was killed during the Crisis On Earth-X crossover. And who were the bad guys of that crossover? Nazis.
Yeaaaah.
Yea that was sketchy but still IMO he got an absoloutley wonderful emotional send off , seriously that entire thing with him dieing with Jax by his side and then to really tear out your heart they have Jax have to go break the news to his wife and daughter.
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Post by eJm on Jun 10, 2020 14:50:35 GMT -5
On the one hand, it never really was confirmed they were going to do that, just reports they were? It’s always better to wait until something’s more solid than presuming people are back peddling and such.
On the other...yeah, just recast her. Get someone in who suits Kate and just go on with stuff. Hell, make that the conclusion of this arc you’re doing and use the time to find the right person.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 10, 2020 14:51:48 GMT -5
Instead of making up new characters as potential Batwoman replacements for the arc, why not use established Bat-Characters to introduce them, then spin them off as their own identities.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2020 15:24:16 GMT -5
The worst one I think was Martin Stein, one of the two halves of Firestorm. He was killed during the Crisis On Earth-X crossover. And who were the bad guys of that crossover? Nazis.
Yeaaaah.
Yea that was sketchy but still IMO he got an absoloutley wonderful emotional send off , seriously that entire thing with him dieing with Jax by his side and then to really tear out your heart they have Jax have to go break the news to his wife and daughter. Oh yeah, his actual sendoff and the PTSD Jax went through afterwards were great. And I think Victor Garber was leaving of his own accord anyway. Just... really did it have to be Nazis? :E
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 15:32:22 GMT -5
Yea that was sketchy but still IMO he got an absoloutley wonderful emotional send off , seriously that entire thing with him dieing with Jax by his side and then to really tear out your heart they have Jax have to go break the news to his wife and daughter. Oh yeah, his actual sendoff and the PTSD Jax went through afterwards were great. And I think Victor Garber was leaving of his own accord anyway. Just... really did it have to be Nazis? :E I think it was just timing if nothing else because as far as I remember him being Jewish was never really emphasised even in that crossover so that is likely why I never really thought about that. Felicity talked more about being Jewish then Stein ever did.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jun 10, 2020 15:50:33 GMT -5
I feel like this show won’t last past season two with all the changes and the new Batwoman stuff. I mean, if it turns out great, that’s awesome. But I really don’t have a ton of faith in them to pull this off gracefully.
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Post by prettynami on Jun 10, 2020 17:36:52 GMT -5
I would even accept a person that doesn't really look like the previous actor. Like, that's how low I am setting the bar with "I wish they would just recast her".
But I do like the idea earlier of there being a bunch of imposter Batwomen - maybe awhile after she disappears - bad ones, good ones, sloppy ones, amateur ones, etc, etc. And that eventually Kate's old team finds one that has amazing skills and ethics and instead of stopping her or something they take her under their wing. That could work and be fun... But I have doubts, and I would absolutely loathe if they straight kill of Kate - I would prefer some open ended sci-fi mumbo jumbo self sacrifice...
It would have been nice if it could have happened awhile before Alice confirmed how evil she was for the 50,000th time so maybe it could have been eye opening to the character so she would become a more light hearted villain who gives them secret info on the underworld!!! (One can dream, right? I just love that character).
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jun 14, 2020 18:12:40 GMT -5
And now we have official confirmation it's a new character direct from showrunner Caroline Dries. Wilder seems to be the name they're sticking with. Source: TV LineWild to think this is the same company that respected it's audience enough to let Brandon Routh play Superman and Atom on screen simultaneously during Crisis. Just recast her. It wouldn't be the first time it happened in this franchise; besides Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney, there's Maggie Gyllenhaal taking over for Katie Holmes in the role of Rachel Dawes, and I'm pretty sure they recast Poison Ivy in Gotham.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 15, 2020 13:41:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they recast Poison Ivy in Gotham. Twice, even.
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