Was the Honky Tonk Man ever in the USWA?

[horsemen4ever]

From 1991-97, did the Honky Tonk Man ever come home and make a stop in the USWA? I know Wayne and Jerry relationship was hot and cold over the years, though if Jerry felt there was money to be made, I think he would over look that.

[lildude8218]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-Bi8vSPGc

[Joe Neglia]

One of the biggest reasons HTM didn't come through more often after he struck gold in WWF is that he really liked making money as a wrestler and Memphis was still paying in peanuts.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

May 30, 2020 21:35:22 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

One of the biggest reasons HTM didn't come through more often after he struck gold in WWF is that he really liked making money as a wrestler and Memphis was still paying in peanuts.

They paid less than peanuts, allegedly Jamie Dundee asked for food stamps because Jarrett wasn’t paying shit.

[Ultimo Gallos]

May 31, 2020 10:22:01 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

May 30, 2020 21:35:22 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

One of the biggest reasons HTM didn't come through more often after he struck gold in WWF is that he really liked making money as a wrestler and Memphis was still paying in peanuts.

They paid less than peanuts, allegedly Jamie Dundee asked for food stamps because Jarrett wasn’t paying shit.

"We never got paid in food stamps. Lawler fired me when I asked him to sign the paperwork for food stamps."

Now of course that is coming from Jamie so who knows if he is legit or not. But talked to a buddy that worked in Memphis in the late 90s/early 2000s. They didnt make crap ,unless they happened to be very popular and sold lots at their gimmick tables.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

May 31, 2020 16:57:39 GMT -5 Ultimo Gallos said:

May 31, 2020 10:22:01 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

They paid less than peanuts, allegedly Jamie Dundee asked for food stamps because Jarrett wasn’t paying shit.

"We never got paid in food stamps. Lawler fired me when I asked him to sign the paperwork for food stamps."

Now of course that is coming from Jamie so who knows if he is legit or not. But talked to a buddy that worked in Memphis in the late 90s/early 2000s. They didnt make crap ,unless they happened to be very popular and sold lots at their gimmick tables.

Haha

Undertaker apparently had to sell his dog because he couldn’t afford food.

[Mozenrath]

Memphis was a good place to learn to work a crowd, to get some exposure, and to network a bit because so many people would roll through, but you sure as shit didn't want to stay there long.

One of the strengths was also a weakness: part of why people didn't get paid well was because they'd have so many people on the cards. If they told more people "no", that's fewer slices needed for the pie, but I mean, Jarrett and Lawler already would have had their portions, regardless, so it didn't make a big difference to them one way or another. Better to just let people leave by their own volition.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

May 30, 2020 21:35:22 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

One of the biggest reasons HTM didn't come through more often after he struck gold in WWF is that he really liked making money as a wrestler and Memphis was still paying in peanuts.

I admire HTM sticktoitivness. He’s still rocking that haircut and it’s creeping up on 100 years old.

[J. Hova]

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

[CubsFan71]

Jun 3, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

I absolutely love that Dutch quote

[Joe Neglia]

Jun 3, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

I have to wonder if this was during the point in time when the WWF steroid scandals were going down and Vince was prepping Jarrett to run the company if he went to prison. If so, Jerry was likely being "proactive" in getting his own guys ready to bring into the promotion if that happened.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Jun 4, 2020 0:25:30 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

Jun 3, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

I have to wonder if this was during the point in time when the WWF steroid scandals were going down and Vince was prepping Jarrett to run the company if he went to prison. If so, Jerry was likely being "proactive" in getting his own guys ready to bring into the promotion if that happened.

Lol the only guy he wanted to feature was his son.

[Joe Neglia]

Jun 4, 2020 0:31:08 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Jun 4, 2020 0:25:30 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

I have to wonder if this was during the point in time when the WWF steroid scandals were going down and Vince was prepping Jarrett to run the company if he went to prison. If so, Jerry was likely being "proactive" in getting his own guys ready to bring into the promotion if that happened.

Lol the only guy he wanted to feature was his son.

That's not entirely true. Jeff had already gone to the WWF at this point and Jerry was sending a number of his workers Vince's way afterward.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Jun 4, 2020 0:41:12 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

Jun 4, 2020 0:31:08 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Lol the only guy he wanted to feature was his son.

That's not entirely true. Jeff had already gone to the WWF at this point and Jerry was sending a number of his workers Vince's way afterward.

I may be wrong and feel free to correct me but the only Memphis guy Jerry every pushed was his son. Vince even had to talk with Jerry about why he was dedicating so much tv time to Jeff.

[J. Hova]

Jun 4, 2020 0:25:30 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

Jun 3, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

I have to wonder if this was during the point in time when the WWF steroid scandals were going down and Vince was prepping Jarrett to run the company if he went to prison. If so, Jerry was likely being "proactive" in getting his own guys ready to bring into the promotion if that happened.

But Prichard said he was never in line to run the WWF if Vince went to prison.  Vince just randomly brought in the most successful independent promoter of the previous 30 years when he was in the fight of his life for well, you know.

I do think you are probably right on the timing as it would make sense.  

[J. Hova]

Jun 4, 2020 0:43:39 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Jun 4, 2020 0:41:12 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

That's not entirely true. Jeff had already gone to the WWF at this point and Jerry was sending a number of his workers Vince's way afterward.

I may be wrong and feel free to correct me but the only Memphis guy Jerry every pushed was his son. Vince even had to talk with Jerry about why he was dedicating so much tv time to Jeff.

You are wrong, he'd also push whomever was tagging with Jeff.

[Ultimo Gallos]

Jun 4, 2020 0:25:30 GMT -5 Joe Neglia said:

Jun 3, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

Yeah Memphis was always terrible pay unless you were top/top. Dutch Mantell probably had the best quote ever on it. Jerry Jarrett came into the locker room once and said something to the effect of "Get off the gas if you are on it, guys." Mantell replied, "Jerry, the way you pay us, we aren't on food." I have no idea what inspired Jarrett to think his guys were roiding or why they needed to get off of them all of a sudden, but yeah, sums it up pretty well.

I have to wonder if this was during the point in time when the WWF steroid scandals were going down and Vince was prepping Jarrett to run the company if he went to prison. If so, Jerry was likely being "proactive" in getting his own guys ready to bring into the promotion if that happened.

That is the version of the story I have heard. Oddly heard it from Derrick King. I forget he was there when Memphis was a WWE Developmental.