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Post by fortknox on Jun 6, 2020 7:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by 67 more on Jun 6, 2020 7:49:37 GMT -5
It's amazing how a legitimate professional athlete could show a complete lack of athleticism or coordination.
I know nothing about American football but I assume his role was slam into people very very hard.
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 6, 2020 9:03:24 GMT -5
One of the videos reminds me, and I'm sure this is a very unpopular opinion, but I found Mongo much more entertaining than Eddie Guerrero at any point in either guys careers. I enjoyed Mongo in WCW. He wasn't a great wrestler but neither were a lot of other guys in WCW but he had a certain entertainment value and charisma that a lot of other guys didn't have.
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Post by flowercity on Jun 6, 2020 9:18:25 GMT -5
It's amazing how a legitimate professional athlete could show a complete lack of athleticism or coordination. I know nothing about American football but I assume his role was slam into people very very hard. In a basic sense, yes. He was very, very good at it though. |
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Post by 67 more on Jun 6, 2020 12:25:24 GMT -5
It's amazing how a legitimate professional athlete could show a complete lack of athleticism or coordination. I know nothing about American football but I assume his role was slam into people very very hard. In a basic sense, yes. He was very, very good at it though. That I can believe. I love that every bump he's like a big tree falling over. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 6, 2020 14:37:37 GMT -5
He was quite literally a Chicago Bear in the ring, that’s the kind of animal he wrestled like. But he was never dull.
I even liked his goofy commentary. At the very least he was having fun with the show and clearly wasn’t bored.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 6, 2020 14:45:59 GMT -5
It's amazing how a legitimate professional athlete could show a complete lack of athleticism or coordination. I know nothing about American football but I assume his role was slam into people very very hard. In a basic sense, yes. He was very, very good at it though. Mongo was a two time All Pro and played 15 years so he was definitely a good player. As far as him coming off as unathletic and uncoordinated I think it was just more of a case of him being green and not really knowing what he was doing. Reminds me of Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose in an interview talking about how when training he would come off as athletic while wrestling despite being anything but, while these former football players who were genuinely really good athletes would get in there and look like they had two left feet because they didn't get it and didn't know what they were doing. Also in Mongo's case he was around 40 when he first started wrestling and had played 15 years in a very physically demanding position (defensive lineman) in a very physically demanding sport. So that probably played a part in him not coming off as athletic as him being older and banged up more then likely took away a lot of his speed and explosiveness that I'm sure he had a lot more in his physcial prime when he was playing football. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 6, 2020 20:06:06 GMT -5
In a basic sense, yes. He was very, very good at it though. Mongo was a two time All Pro and played 15 years so he was definitely a good player. As far as him coming off as unathletic and uncoordinated I think it was just more of a case of him being green and not really knowing what he was doing. Reminds me of Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose in an interview talking about how when training he would come off as athletic while wrestling despite being anything but, while these former football players who were genuinely really good athletes would get in there and look like they had two left feet because they didn't get it and didn't know what they were doing. Also in Mongo's case he was around 40 when he first started wrestling and had played 15 years in a very physically demanding position (defensive lineman) in a very physically demanding sport. So that probably played a part in him not coming off as athletic as him being older and banged up more then likely took away a lot of his speed and explosiveness that I'm sure he had a lot more in his physcial prime when he was playing football. Also, good coordination for American Football and good coordination for pro wrestling are just two different things involving different skill sets. That being said, I'm amazed this account can tweet hourly about a career path that lasted less than three years and seem to have no issues running out of material. |
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jun 7, 2020 1:12:58 GMT -5
NEVER MIND THAT SHIT, HERE COMES MONGO!
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jun 7, 2020 4:29:37 GMT -5
To be fair, Mongo had better workrate than Sid ever did.
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Post by bob on Jun 7, 2020 14:49:02 GMT -5
Mongo is pawn in game of life
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 15:26:56 GMT -5
It's amazing how a legitimate professional athlete could show a complete lack of athleticism or coordination. I know nothing about American football but I assume his role was slam into people very very hard. Mongo was a defensive tackle, which basically meant his job was to bulldoze whoever was in his way in order to get to the guy throwing the football so that he could then bulldoze him, too. Coincidentally, that's the exact same position that Bill Goldberg played at American Football, as well. When Brock had his cup of coffee as a walk on for the Vikings, he was also a defensive tackle. Swagger/Hager was also a Defensive tackle for OU. Basically, it's a very physical position meant for guys who are willing and able to trample someone like a rhinoceros. It just doesn't always translate well to the scripted world of prowrestling that's more about finesse and cooperation with your opponent. |
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jun 7, 2020 15:29:51 GMT -5
Mongo although past his prime was athletic and he was insanely confident. I bought into him with the Four Horsemen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 15:33:06 GMT -5
Mongo although past his prime was athletic and he was insanely confident. I bought into him with the Four Horsemen. For what he didn't have in the ring, Mongo fit into the Horsemen like a glove in terms of his swagger and charisma. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 7, 2020 15:45:34 GMT -5
Mongo is pawn in game of life That Mongo was a better wrestler than this one. Not as many accomplishments on the football field though, and not as many titles in wrestling but a better wrestler. |
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Post by H-Virus on Jun 7, 2020 17:02:34 GMT -5
To this day I still can't believe that anyone in charge would look at Mongo and say to themselves "You know what finisher would be perfect for him? A f***ing Tombstone Piledriver!"
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Post by jagilki on Jun 7, 2020 17:14:13 GMT -5
In an alternate universe, Mongo became Hacksaw Duggans protege and took over his gimmick.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 7, 2020 17:32:49 GMT -5
Wasn't he an absolutely raging cocaine fiend? I would imagine that didn't exactly improve his prowess as a professional wrestler.
I've got to be honest here, maybe it's because I've never liked American football, but I never ever "got" Steve McMichael. I don't find him to be especially charismatic, he was a terrible worker, and when I hear him on commentary I want him to shut up and go away. He and Paul Roma are evidence of how far the concept of the Horsemen had fallen by the mid nineties, which is a tremendous shame.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 7, 2020 20:25:08 GMT -5
Mongo is pawn in game of life That Mongo was a better wrestler than this one. Not as many accomplishments on the football field though, and not as many titles in wrestling but a better wrestler. Did Steve McMichael ever adopt Webster? No, he did not, another tick in the column for Alex Karras |
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 7, 2020 20:40:13 GMT -5
Mongo should never be lumped in with Paul Roma. Roma had Barry Horowitz level fame but thought he was in Ric Flair's league. At best he could have joined an indy feds version of the Horsemen but definitely not WCW at any time. Mongo had a strange charisma but I think his heel turn and the Horsemen in general were overshadowed by the n w o and Hall and Nash coming in around the same time. The Horsemen could have been built as the dominant faction again if not for the n w o I believe. Mongo could have been the enforcer type much like a Sid. People forget Sid wasn't that talented either, he just had a crazy charisma. He didn't even try to be talented, it just came to him in some strange way. He and Steve aren't the same in wrestling but with proper build and storylines he would have been fine.
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