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Post by deezy on Jun 10, 2020 10:27:47 GMT -5
When Dusty helped Legacy then Orton turns on him and gives him the RKO, Cody goes berserk and starts contemplating weather to hit Orton or not. Of course he never did but damn that crowd was wanting him to so bad. That would of gave Cody a huge boost in his career.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 10, 2020 10:39:37 GMT -5
To me, the missed turn opportunity with Cody was when he came back after the death of Dusty. They took him off TV for several weeks (not sure if that was what they wanted or he asked for), only to come back as the heel Stardust. I believe it was in Atlanta when he came back. I remember those fans wanted to get behind him due to him being local and with the passing of Dusty, but WWE didn't really give the fans much of an opportunity to with the way they continued with him as the heel Stardust. I think there's a difference between exploiting a death and simply acknowledging it and pivoting with a character. They didn't have to book Cody to pander or constantly bring up Dusty. But they could have turned Cody babyface and had him drop the Stardust character. Letting him be Cody Rhodes and having him make some acknowledgement of his father does not automatically equate to exploiting a death. I think much of the fanbase wanted to see him be Cody Rhodes and wanted to cheer him on.
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Jun 10, 2020 13:59:12 GMT -5
When Dusty helped Legacy then Orton turns on him and gives him the RKO, Cody goes berserk and starts contemplating weather to hit Orton or not. Of course he never did but damn that crowd was wanting him to so bad. That would of gave Cody a huge boost in his career. The same during the Orton/DiBiase match they teased Ted fighting back but nothing happened with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 14:03:46 GMT -5
Roman Reigns the night after WM 33. Would've gone down as one of the best heel turn promos/segments ever.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 10, 2020 18:36:41 GMT -5
I don't know how you'd exactly do it or when it would make sense, but Christian could have used one in 2005 right before he left.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 10, 2020 19:20:38 GMT -5
To me, the missed turn opportunity with Cody was when he came back after the death of Dusty. They took him off TV for several weeks (not sure if that was what they wanted or he asked for), only to come back as the heel Stardust. I believe it was in Atlanta when he came back. I remember those fans wanted to get behind him due to him being local and with the passing of Dusty, but WWE didn't really give the fans much of an opportunity to with the way they continued with him as the heel Stardust. I think there's a difference between exploiting a death and simply acknowledging it and pivoting with a character. They didn't have to book Cody to pander or constantly bring up Dusty. But they could have turned Cody babyface and had him drop the Stardust character. Letting him be Cody Rhodes and having him make some acknowledgement of his father does not automatically equate to exploiting a death. I think much of the fanbase wanted to see him be Cody Rhodes and wanted to cheer him on. Initially, he wanted to continue on as Stardust upon his return
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 10, 2020 19:47:08 GMT -5
To me, the missed turn opportunity with Cody was when he came back after the death of Dusty. They took him off TV for several weeks (not sure if that was what they wanted or he asked for), only to come back as the heel Stardust. I believe it was in Atlanta when he came back. I remember those fans wanted to get behind him due to him being local and with the passing of Dusty, but WWE didn't really give the fans much of an opportunity to with the way they continued with him as the heel Stardust. I think there's a difference between exploiting a death and simply acknowledging it and pivoting with a character. They didn't have to book Cody to pander or constantly bring up Dusty. But they could have turned Cody babyface and had him drop the Stardust character. Letting him be Cody Rhodes and having him make some acknowledgement of his father does not automatically equate to exploiting a death. I think much of the fanbase wanted to see him be Cody Rhodes and wanted to cheer him on. Initially, he wanted to continue on as Stardust upon his return Well, he sure got to.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 20:12:04 GMT -5
Yeah short turn heel Roman and Cena runs would saved them from a lot of the hate and they would have been over even more so when they turned back face.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 10, 2020 20:18:14 GMT -5
To me, the missed turn opportunity with Cody was when he came back after the death of Dusty. They took him off TV for several weeks (not sure if that was what they wanted or he asked for), only to come back as the heel Stardust. I believe it was in Atlanta when he came back. I remember those fans wanted to get behind him due to him being local and with the passing of Dusty, but WWE didn't really give the fans much of an opportunity to with the way they continued with him as the heel Stardust. I think there's a difference between exploiting a death and simply acknowledging it and pivoting with a character. They didn't have to book Cody to pander or constantly bring up Dusty. But they could have turned Cody babyface and had him drop the Stardust character. Letting him be Cody Rhodes and having him make some acknowledgement of his father does not automatically equate to exploiting a death. I think much of the fanbase wanted to see him be Cody Rhodes and wanted to cheer him on. Initially, he wanted to continue on as Stardust upon his return Only because he felt ditching the gimmick at that moment would make it seem like he was cashing in on his father's death.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 10, 2020 20:22:52 GMT -5
Initially, he wanted to continue on as Stardust upon his return Only because he felt ditching the gimmick at that moment would make it seem like he was cashing in on his father's death. Yeah, that sounds right. My response was more to explain why it didn't happen right off the bat. I didn't elaborate enough
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jun 10, 2020 20:33:23 GMT -5
A similar situation went down after Eddie's death. At the time of Eddie's death, Chavo was portraying Kerwin White. They made the (smart) decision to completely drop that and have him be Chavo and have him pay tribute to his uncle.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 10, 2020 20:47:13 GMT -5
When Dusty helped Legacy then Orton turns on him and gives him the RKO, Cody goes berserk and starts contemplating weather to hit Orton or not. Of course he never did but damn that crowd was wanting him to so bad. That would of gave Cody a huge boost in his career. The same during the Orton/DiBiase match they teased Ted fighting back but nothing happened with it. I came here to state this too... the Cody one is mentioned a lot... the Ted Jr. one isn't. Pretty much the exact same situation... I expected (on whichever one happened second) Legacy would declare enough was enough and take out Orton instead... Roman Reigns the night after WM 33. Would've gone down as one of the best heel turn promos/segments ever. It was absolutely one of the best Heel promos in like 20 years. Shame they f***ing ruined it the next week with the "well I sure do respect the undertaker guys" backtracking... Only because he felt ditching the gimmick at that moment would make it seem like he was cashing in on his father's death. Yeah, that sounds right. My response was more to explain why it didn't happen right off the bat. I didn't elaborate enough Yeah, he wanted to finish the storyline with Amell and then go back to being Cody. What I will say is even though he hated being Stardust past that point to his absolute credit Cody never half assed his work as him.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 10, 2020 20:53:01 GMT -5
The same during the Orton/DiBiase match they teased Ted fighting back but nothing happened with it. I came here to state this too... the Cody one is mentioned a lot... the Ted Jr. one isn't. Pretty much the exact same situation... I expected (on whichever one happened second) Legacy would declare enough was enough and take out Orton instead... The Cody stuff really only gets mentioned now due to how big a star he is but people forget how over Ted was for a short while when his potential was still high He would have gotten the same pop Riley got when he decked Miz if he finally stood up to Orton.
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Post by Rican on Jun 10, 2020 22:38:32 GMT -5
There were a couple of times with Bray. That random time he tagged with a Roman and the Royal Rumble where he stared down Triple H. Crowd was hot for it both times.
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Post by karl100589 on Jun 10, 2020 23:01:31 GMT -5
"This is my yard now"
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jun 11, 2020 3:14:54 GMT -5
Luger in 1994, after Bret wound up with the title again. While the Bret-Owen feud played out through the spring and summer, Luger should have been slow-burning before finally losing it and attacking Bret shortly after SummerSlam, claiming he kissed babies and slapped hands to try to be the all-American hero for more than a year and he's sick of it. No Narcissist -- just smug, old-school Luger beating up the guy the fans decided they liked better. You could even keep Backlund's push intact and have Luger somehow contribute to costing Bret the title at Survivor Series (knocking him out with the forearm before the chicken wing/towel finish). Then you have Bret vs. Luger ready-made for the Rumble (Luger wins) and WrestleMania 11 (Bret wins), with a rubber match at KOTR '95 if you wanted to keep going with it. Putting a heel Luger against Bret really was the best way to get value out of him, and could have done nice business. Never thought of this. It's brilliant. It would give both men a bumper 1995 as well (Allied Powers, Isaac Yankem, and a pirate stealing Bret's jacket weren't that great) My only ploy into this would be Lex defeating Yokozuna at Wrestlemania 10 and somehow losing to Bret Hart in the finals, hence planting the seeds for what you have said.
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Post by Shark on Jun 11, 2020 3:23:20 GMT -5
After his return from injury, Buff Bagwell was primed to be one of the biggest things ever for WCW. Yes, he turned face for a 5-minute swerve, but that stupidity is pretty much where everyone gave up on him. Had he and WCW taken it seriously, he would have been their next DDP. Instead, he just went right back to being NWO member #14. WCW were clearly planning something for him too. In late 97, he feuds with Luger and even goes over Lex. He gets paired up with Scott who was hot after turning heel. He was getting real reactions from the crowds, he really was coming into his own as Buff. I'll never get why they had him remain a heel.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 11, 2020 11:11:40 GMT -5
After his return from injury, Buff Bagwell was primed to be one of the biggest things ever for WCW. Yes, he turned face for a 5-minute swerve, but that stupidity is pretty much where everyone gave up on him. Had he and WCW taken it seriously, he would have been their next DDP. Instead, he just went right back to being NWO member #14. WCW were clearly planning something for him too. In late 97, he feuds with Luger and even goes over Lex. He gets paired up with Scott who was hot after turning heel. He was getting real reactions from the crowds, he really was coming into his own as Buff. I'll never get why they had him remain a heel. Yeah. Bagwell was super hot at the time. I remember people painting their bodies with B U F F. History doesnt treat him kind because of 2001, but in 1997 his turn, from the injury, against Scott Steiner and the nWo, would have been an all time pop.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jun 11, 2020 14:49:25 GMT -5
You'd think Wayne Bloom always interrupting Mike Enos in interviews would lead to a Destruction Crew breakup in the future. But according to the team themselves, it was never in the cards. "Wait a minute Mike. I'll handle this!"
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jun 12, 2020 14:13:34 GMT -5
Should’ve turned Davey boy sooner in 1995
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