NXT UK's Ligero accused of sexual harassment

[octopus]

From one of his former students

[Hypnosis]

Because this year hasn't been f***ed up enough.

Sickening.

[Moppy]

Yikes.

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

f***ing hell, what is this, every wrestler's revealed to be a sex pest week? Yikes.

[Square]

Welcome to BritWres: all your favourites are sex pests.

Honestly at this point shut it down until 2021 and just purge the shit

[lucas_lee]

I think with Starrs outing the floodgates are about to be open. I can imagine the crap Ospreay pulled to protect an alleged abuser is going to be brought up again

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Apparently there’s just an avalanche of British wrestling personalities being outted as creeps on Twitter right now.

[autisticgeordie]

Honestly, let's let WWE have BritWres, focus on AusWres, because the in-ring action is awesome, there's (hopefully) no sex pests still around and they've got Madison Eagles, who is awesome.

Also: f*** El Ligero if this is true.

[Square]

Jun 18, 2020 13:49:06 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

Honestly, let's let WWE have BritWres, focus on AusWres, because the in-ring action is awesome, there's (hopefully) no sex pests still around and they've got Madison Eagles, who is awesome.

Also: f*** El Ligero if this is true.

I want to argue but honestly at this point f*** it. Let the industry burn and the few bright sparks in the industry either lesve for their own sanity or rebuild from the ashes.

[autisticgeordie]

Jun 18, 2020 13:53:45 GMT -5 Square said:

Jun 18, 2020 13:49:06 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

Honestly, let's let WWE have BritWres, focus on AusWres, because the in-ring action is awesome, there's (hopefully) no sex pests still around and they've got Madison Eagles, who is awesome.

Also: f*** El Ligero if this is true.

I want to argue but honestly at this point f*** it. Let the industry burn and the few bright sparks in the industry either lesve for their own sanity or rebuild from the ashes.

I'm 24 and I've been a wrestling fan since around 2005, I've stuck with it through thick and thin and I've gotten many friends over it, I'd argue that wrestling is one of my passions that I'm laser focused on due to my autism. This is probably the first time in my life when I'm just f***ing fed up with wrestling, I'm sick of all the dirtbags, the companies not giving a shit about their workers and vile predators who hide behind good causes like unionisation. 

I'm just tired of it all and I don't want to feel that way about an industry that I love.

[octopus]

Jun 18, 2020 13:49:06 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

Honestly, let's let WWE have BritWres, focus on AusWres, because the in-ring action is awesome, there's (hopefully) no sex pests still around and they've got Madison Eagles, who is awesome.

Also: f*** El Ligero if this is true.

You think this doesn't happen in AusWres? LOL. Thank god you weren't around in the 90s and early 2000s.

[lucas_lee]

I think we should change this thread to Brit Wres sexual harassment/assault allegations

[autisticgeordie]

Jun 18, 2020 14:01:59 GMT -5 octopus said:

Jun 18, 2020 13:49:06 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

Honestly, let's let WWE have BritWres, focus on AusWres, because the in-ring action is awesome, there's (hopefully) no sex pests still around and they've got Madison Eagles, who is awesome.

Also: f*** El Ligero if this is true.

You think this doesn't happen in AusWres? LOL. Thank god you weren't around in the 90s and early 2000s.

I mean, i heard that it happend from Shazza McKenzie ages ago, which was horrible, maybe it's because I'm a Brit and I'm sick of hearing all the shit about how vile quite a few BritWres workers are, I'm just hoping that we won't be finding out about Matty Wahlberg or Jack Bonza being sex pests. I just want wrestlers to not be creeps.

[octopus]

Jun 18, 2020 14:08:37 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

Jun 18, 2020 14:01:59 GMT -5 octopus said:

You think this doesn't happen in AusWres? LOL. Thank god you weren't around in the 90s and early 2000s.

I mean, i heard that it happend from Shazza McKenzie ages ago, which was horrible, maybe it's because I'm a Brit and I'm sick of hearing all the shit about how vile quite a few BritWres workers are, I'm just hoping that we won't be finding out about Matty Wahlberg or Jack Bonza being sex pests. I just want wrestlers to not be creeps.

I just want wrestlers to not be creeps.

A lot of them are I'm afraid.

[Derk!]

Jeez.

2020 is a real dumpster fire on all levels. Hope those guilty are brought to justice and never hurt anyone again...

[Jaws the Shark]

Jun 18, 2020 13:57:57 GMT -5 autisticgeordie said:

I'm 24 and I've been a wrestling fan since around 2005, I've stuck with it through thick and thin and I've gotten many friends over it, I'd argue that wrestling is one of my passions that I'm laser focused on due to my autism. This is probably the first time in my life when I'm just f***ing fed up with wrestling, I'm sick of all the dirtbags, the companies not giving a shit about their workers and vile predators who hide behind good causes like unionisation. 

I'm just tired of it all and I don't want to feel that way about an industry that I love.

It's one of those realities of life that you find out a lot of people whose work you enjoyed and who you respected for what they did in their field are less than virtuous people. It's a feeling I've experienced many times with a lot of people.

I would say you've just got to enjoy it for what it is and separate the people from what they create, but I know that's not always easy, and even when you do that it can taint your enjoyment of things somewhat.

This is just an unpleasant episode all round, really.

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Am I the only one that doesn't really see anything bad here?

"Man fancied a woman and messaged her constantly to talk about 'just about anything' and maybe made it obvious that he fancied her by telling a few jokes."

She admitted that she felt forced to reply but how was he to know this? For all he knew, he was chatting to a girl who liked chatting to him.

I'm trying hard not to victim shame here but theres a fine line between sexual harassment and "constantly texting a girl you fancy". I was expecting blackmail or something.

[sdoyle7798]

Quick question...

Do we have any proof besides her statement above.

I'm not saying she's lying, and if Ligero did anything inappropriate, he should fry in hell.

But should we be badmouthing anyone without proof?

[The Ichi]

Jun 18, 2020 14:34:30 GMT -5 @negan said:

Am I the only one that doesn't really see anything bad here?

"Man fancied a woman and messaged her constantly to talk about 'just about anything' and maybe made it obvious that he fancied her by telling a few jokes."

She admitted that she felt forced to reply but how was he to know this? For all he knew, he was chatting to a girl who liked chatting to him.

I'm trying hard not to victim shame here but theres a fine line between sexual harassment and "constantly texting a girl you fancy". I was expecting blackmail or something.

Please tell me you didn't read the whole thing. There was much more than what you're describing. Also she was only 17.

[Moppy]

Jun 18, 2020 14:34:30 GMT -5 @negan said:

Am I the only one that doesn't really see anything bad here?

"Man fancied a woman and messaged her constantly to talk about 'just about anything' and maybe made it obvious that he fancied her by telling a few jokes."

She admitted that she felt forced to reply but how was he to know this? For all he knew, he was chatting to a girl who liked chatting to him.

I'm trying hard not to victim shame here but theres a fine line between sexual harassment and "constantly texting a girl you fancy". I was expecting blackmail or something.

First of all, when Natalie Skyes was a 17 year old trainee, Ligero would have been what, 32, 33? And her trainer. In a position of authority over her.

Read the description back, does it really just sound like something as innocent as "man fancies woman"? I would argue it doesn't.