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Post by Dub H on Jun 19, 2020 22:46:33 GMT -5
Updated statement: This lawyer needs to Fiverr a paralegal or something, it's embarrassing that someone like Riddle would entrust his career and livelihood to someone who both a) doesn't sign their press releases, and b) "drafts pleadings" but doesn't actually submit them against (alleged) cyberstalkers. Just embarrassing all around, and doesn't help the case one bit. So do they actually have an OFFICIAL document ,or all they can do is claim they had? |
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jun 19, 2020 22:52:59 GMT -5
Updated statement: This lawyer needs to Fiverr a paralegal or something, it's embarrassing that someone like Riddle would entrust his career and livelihood to someone who both a) doesn't sign their press releases, and b) "drafts pleadings" but doesn't actually submit them against (alleged) cyberstalkers. Just embarrassing all around, and doesn't help the case one bit. So do they actually have an OFFICIAL document ,or all they can do is claim they had? If the lawyer is lying about Matt talking to him previously about this, he could lose his right to practice law in that said state. An important note. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 22:58:05 GMT -5
This whole thing seriously just reads to me as WWE firing Gallagher because they saw him as expendable for a, "See, we're taking it seriously!" message while ignoring people like Riddle, Devlin, and Dream. Basically doing something to have something to point to that they're taking it seriously even while not actually doing so. Effectively, Gallagher was doing nothing with the company, and they had no plans for him, so it was an easy decision to fire him, while those other people they have ambitions for in the near future, so cutting them would require rewriting and scrambling to promote other talent, so Gallagher is the only one to fall on the sword. WWE is a very moral company. /sarcasm |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 19, 2020 23:38:16 GMT -5
This whole thing seriously just reads to me as WWE firing Gallagher because they saw him as expendable for a, "See, we're taking it seriously!" message while ignoring people like Riddle, Devlin, and Dream. Basically doing something to have something to point to that they're taking it seriously even while not actually doing so. Effectively, Gallagher was doing nothing with the company, and they had no plans for him, so it was an easy decision to fire him, while those other people they have ambitions for in the near future, so cutting them would require rewriting and scrambling to promote other talent, so Gallagher is the only one to fall on the sword. WWE is a very moral company. /sarcasm I really think this is continuing to jump the gun on the situation. The reason Gallagher probably went first is his case was the most definitive. Everyone else is in an ongoing investigation with their accusations to see what is real and what is not before the wrestlers may inevitably be released This isn't about "Future plans", a lot of the NXT UK guys weren't even in WWE's immediate future plans with the pandemic, not even Devlin since he vacated the belt. The ones who would hit them most so far are Dream and Riddle, and we'll see where that goes But I feel like we're really going on the "Gallagher will be the only one released, f*** WWE" train here, it's been less than 24 hours since some of these accusations came to light and it's best to make sure what's fact and what isn't before people yknow, lose their entire lives? |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 20, 2020 5:31:53 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 20, 2020 5:36:20 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too. Who the f*** is his lawyer? Any lawyer who knows their stuff would tell their clients to go silent. At most issue a denial or apology, and then go silent. Don't give anybody any ammunition. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 20, 2020 5:49:27 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too. Someone from WWE HQ will be communicating with him soon saying shut the f*** up you're supposed to be laying low |
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Post by papagiorgio on Jun 20, 2020 7:21:22 GMT -5
Unless they are charged with something, I don't think any of these people should be fired or suspended. WWE should stick to their original statement of suspending if charged and firing if convicted. None of these sound like they are outside of the statue of limitations, so if the accusers go to the police and the evidence is compelling enough, they will be charged.
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Post by Convoy on Jun 20, 2020 7:49:02 GMT -5
At least his lawyer printed that release on actual paper.
Seriously, what was with the statement printed on labels?
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Post by britishbulldog on Jun 20, 2020 7:51:01 GMT -5
Unless they are charged with something, I don't think any of these people should be fired or suspended. WWE should stick to their original statement of suspending if charged and firing if convicted. None of these sound like they are outside of the statue of limitations, so if the accusers go to the police and the evidence is compelling enough, they will be charged. Agreed. Innocent until proven guilty is how it’s supposed to be |
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Post by cornettesracket on Jun 20, 2020 7:54:35 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too. Any lawyer who knows their stuff would tell their clients to go silent. At most issue a denial or apology, and then go silent. Don't give anybody any ammunition. The same person who put an official statement on a page of sticky labels. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 20, 2020 8:11:07 GMT -5
Effectively, Gallagher was doing nothing with the company, and they had no plans for him, so it was an easy decision to fire him, while those other people they have ambitions for in the near future, so cutting them would require rewriting and scrambling to promote other talent, so Gallagher is the only one to fall on the sword. WWE is a very moral company. /sarcasm I really think this is continuing to jump the gun on the situation. The reason Gallagher probably went first is his case was the most definitive. Everyone else is in an ongoing investigation with their accusations to see what is real and what is not before the wrestlers may inevitably be released This isn't about "Future plans", a lot of the NXT UK guys weren't even in WWE's immediate future plans with the pandemic, not even Devlin since he vacated the belt. The ones who would hit them most so far are Dream and Riddle, and we'll see where that goes But I feel like we're really going on the "Gallagher will be the only one released, f*** WWE" train here, it's been less than 24 hours since some of these accusations came to light and it's best to make sure what's fact and what isn't before people yknow, lose their entire lives? And as pointed out already, WWE does not release people in these situations unless their is some merit to the allegations Don't look for any other reason Gallagher got fired, only that what he did had some truth to it and he couldn't fight it. The others will have their day but don't judge it on how long WWE takes to fire someone. Jack was a rare case of getting loose with quickness. If the allegations about everyone else is true then you will be seeing a lot of people on there asses but until then it is a waiting game |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jun 20, 2020 8:39:50 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too. Best case scenario is the former. Then again, maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses after a cool segment on SD,...but I admit it, it is probably wrong of me...after all, how talented you are <> you as a person. (coughBENOITcough) |
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Post by Talent Name on Jun 20, 2020 8:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by WIENERS=$$$ on Jun 20, 2020 8:50:57 GMT -5
As of about 20 minutes ago, Riddle’s still tweeting about his SmackDown match and tagging his missus in it as though everything is hunky-dory, so he’s either really confident that none of this is true or really stupid. Both is possible too.  |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 20, 2020 9:07:26 GMT -5
Unless they are charged with something, I don't think any of these people should be fired or suspended. WWE should stick to their original statement of suspending if charged and firing if convicted. None of these sound like they are outside of the statue of limitations, so if the accusers go to the police and the evidence is compelling enough, they will be charged. Agreed. Innocent until proven guilty is how it’s supposed to be In court. Not in public life. |
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jun 20, 2020 9:11:53 GMT -5
Unless they are charged with something, I don't think any of these people should be fired or suspended. WWE should stick to their original statement of suspending if charged and firing if convicted. None of these sound like they are outside of the statue of limitations, so if the accusers go to the police and the evidence is compelling enough, they will be charged. Agreed. Innocent until proven guilty is how it’s supposed to be No. That is how it is suppose to functions in the legal court room. The court of public opinion gives no poops, and will jump to whatever reaction or conclusion a person wants. And right now? Water keeps being used to put out a grease fire, all over. And in the case specific to wrestling, women have power now more than ever in the thing, so they have more visibility. And there are no old carny codes to adhere to in a Post-Territory business. This stuff has to come out, there needs to be public shaming and stigmatization. Consequences need to be visible. Because certainly if they didn't learn to not be crapwaffles before, then real consequences, and the threat of ruination will teach people to not be effin' monsters. |
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Post by The Warthog on Jun 20, 2020 9:47:06 GMT -5
Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Who was this? |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 20, 2020 9:53:42 GMT -5
Agreed. Innocent until proven guilty is how it’s supposed to be No. That is how it is suppose to functions in the legal court room. The court of public opinion gives no poops, and will jump to whatever reaction or conclusion a person wants. And right now? Water keeps being used to put out a grease fire, all over. And in the case specific to wrestling, women have power now more than ever in the thing, so they have more visibility. And there are no old carny codes to adhere to in a Post-Territory business. This stuff has to come out, there needs to be public shaming and stigmatization. Consequences need to be visible. Because certainly if they didn't learn to not be crapwaffles before, then real consequences, and the threat of ruination will teach people to not be effin' monsters. Also, to root this back to WWE's side of things, you have to think of their association with all this. Not that they caused any of these events to happen but their own image if they do the bare minimum with these incidents. They might have fired Gallagher but there's a lot of people who are right now having a lot of skeletons exposed from their closets, some have put out (pretty bad) statements, some are getting lawyers, some have deleted accounts or said nothing but all of them are associated with WWE. Obviously it can't happen ASAP but if we're a week into this and nothing else has happened, how does that look to WWE or any other company? For the UK guys especially, does WWE want to wait and see comes from this police investigation and risk isolating fans and wrestlers alike or do they want to take action now and risk whatever happens to that one guy? Because that's the choice they have to make and, honestly, it's not a hard one for them to make. |
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jun 20, 2020 10:08:28 GMT -5
Totally. I mean, we literally just had a comedian accused of grooming underage girls, who took an acting job to play a comedian who was grooming underage girls. All bets are off after that. Who was this? Chris D'Elia |
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