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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Oct 9, 2020 13:13:17 GMT -5
Man... I don’t like her adding WWE and their team of lawyers and piles of money.
Sue the crap out of Matt Riddle. He deserves whatever he gets, but if WWE believes his side of the story with their assets? He’s definitely going to be ascended from his shitty pot lawyer to the WWE team.
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Post by BatPunk on Oct 9, 2020 13:21:25 GMT -5
So this is a new accusation? To my understanding, yes. Hate to say it, but this is starting to look a touch like a pattern....
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 9, 2020 13:30:01 GMT -5
I find the number of people in this thread saying that this is a bad idea and she shouldn't do it a little disturbing. That's exactly the attitude that discourages and intimidates people from seeking justice.
For the record I believe her 100%
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Oct 9, 2020 13:39:34 GMT -5
I find the number of people in this thread saying that this is a bad idea and she shouldn't do it a little disturbing. That's exactly the attitude that discourages and intimidates people from seeking justice. For the record I believe her 100% I'd say it's more people worrying about her financially rather than believing her story. One woman against a billionaire corporation isn't exactly an easy win.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 9, 2020 13:40:40 GMT -5
Poor woman is going to be bankrupted by the McDevitt strategy of "tie things up in court so long that the other person just goes away". More likely, WWE will settle somewhat generously with her to get themselves out of the press, then quietly either release Riddle or send him home until the matter is settled between him and her. Sexual assault matters are not the kinds of hills WWE like to choose to die on. This is not the time for WWE to fight for anyone accused or suspected of stuff like this.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 9, 2020 13:53:54 GMT -5
I find the number of people in this thread saying that this is a bad idea and she shouldn't do it a little disturbing. That's exactly the attitude that discourages and intimidates people from seeking justice. For the record I believe her 100% I'd say it's more people worrying about her financially rather than believing her story. One woman against a billionaire corporation isn't exactly an easy win. It isn't, you're right on that. But there's just this tone to "nobody should ever take WWE to task because lol McDevitt" that just really pisses me off.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Oct 9, 2020 14:12:21 GMT -5
I'd say it's more people worrying about her financially rather than believing her story. One woman against a billionaire corporation isn't exactly an easy win. It isn't, you're right on that. But there's just this tone to "nobody should ever take WWE to task because lol McDevitt" that just really pisses me off. Right on. I don't know anything about this McDeviit guy tbh but good luck to her! Let's hope the truth comes out and there's some sort of resolution in the end without her going broke.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 9, 2020 14:19:28 GMT -5
Poor woman is going to be bankrupted by the McDevitt strategy of "tie things up in court so long that the other person just goes away". More likely, WWE will settle somewhat generously with her to get themselves out of the press, then quietly either release Riddle or send him home until the matter is settled between him and her. Sexual assault matters are not the kinds of hills WWE like to choose to die on. This is not the time for WWE to fight for anyone accused or suspected of stuff like this. I would hope so too, but Vince is also a stubborn sack of shit.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 9, 2020 14:21:40 GMT -5
I'd say it's more people worrying about her financially rather than believing her story. One woman against a billionaire corporation isn't exactly an easy win. It isn't, you're right on that. But there's just this tone to "nobody should ever take WWE to task because lol McDevitt" that just really pisses me off. So, to be clear, WWE should be took to task. My comment was on McDevitt's strategy to avoid an actual legal battle by just extending the financial costs of the plaintiff
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Post by Legion on Oct 9, 2020 14:23:18 GMT -5
It isn't, you're right on that. But there's just this tone to "nobody should ever take WWE to task because lol McDevitt" that just really pisses me off. Right on. I don't know anything about this McDeviit guy tbh but good luck to her! Let's hope the truth comes out and there's some sort of resolution in the end without her going broke. She probably wont go broke; I wouldnt be surprised to see her get some support from some charity or woman's aid group who decide to take WWE to task over this sort of behaviour - indeed her including them may even be an attempt to attract the attention of such a group to get that help. If this is true, and it isnt just a spurned ex-lover who thought he was going to leave his wife for her out for some revenge, I hope she has the evidence to crucify him. He's the sort of sleazy looking 'bro' I could easily believe her, but there are definitely parts of the story that seem more like soap opera mad ex drama exacerbated by her friends and then his wife, and his 'lawyer,' than real life.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 9, 2020 14:29:57 GMT -5
She’s probably not paying any legal fees. Plaintiffs typically don’t. Lawyer gets money if he settles/wins.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Oct 9, 2020 14:56:20 GMT -5
As someone who was a huge Matt Riddle fan, very disappointing to see there's a pattern to these things. Hopefully, whatever the truth may be, justice is served. My Original Bro shirt just became a slum it while I work shirt, like my Dream Come True shirt.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 9, 2020 15:00:55 GMT -5
Poor woman is going to be bankrupted by the McDevitt strategy of "tie things up in court so long that the other person just goes away". More likely, WWE will settle somewhat generously with her to get themselves out of the press, then quietly either release Riddle or send him home until the matter is settled between him and her. Sexual assault matters are not the kinds of hills WWE like to choose to die on. This is not the time for WWE to fight for anyone accused or suspected of stuff like this. *coughDreamcough*
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Post by eJm on Oct 9, 2020 16:24:29 GMT -5
I’m not tweeting it because there’s other political related stuff that’s not a can of worms to open here but David Bixenspan seems to have proof that the events involving Cathy Cartwright having her bookings cancelled came from a WWE official using a WWE email account.
Which...yikes...
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Post by Legion on Oct 9, 2020 16:48:37 GMT -5
More likely, WWE will settle somewhat generously with her to get themselves out of the press, then quietly either release Riddle or send him home until the matter is settled between him and her. Sexual assault matters are not the kinds of hills WWE like to choose to die on. This is not the time for WWE to fight for anyone accused or suspected of stuff like this. *coughDreamcough* With Dream, while objectively a worse issue than this one because the evidence is actively there and it appears much clearer he attempted to groom an underage boy, the police declined to take action when the accuser went to them with it (allegedly). With this situation, it's actually going forward to court, and while going as a civil matter, it's actually going there. WWE might pay to make it go away because the press is not going to be kind about 'WWE culture' as the face of wrestling worldwide - even if most of the issues dont involve WWE directly. I’m not tweeting it because there’s other political related stuff that’s not a can of worms to open here but David Bixenspan seems to have proof that the events involving Cathy Cartwright having her bookings cancelled came from a WWE official using a WWE email account. Which... yikes... That doesnt mean anything though, unless she can actively prove it was because of Riddle. It would be easy for WWE to say it was because of X or Y. Unless the email actively says 'we are not booking you because Riddle asked us not to' then it remains a 'he said, she said' situation. I absolutely believe that part of the story though, WWE are blatantly going to have axed her due to problems around this situation, but it's going to be on her to prove that, and not what WWE is going to counter with which will either be random stories about problems she may have with others, or just the age old 'storylines changed and we didnt need her anymore, prove that wasnt the case.'
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Post by eJm on Oct 9, 2020 16:54:23 GMT -5
With Dream, while objectively a worse issue than this one because the evidence is actively there and it appears much clearer he attempted to groom an underage boy, the police declined to take action when the accuser went to them with it (allegedly). With this situation, it's actually going forward to court, and while going as a civil matter, it's actually going there. WWE might pay to make it go away because the press is not going to be kind about 'WWE culture' as the face of wrestling worldwide - even if most of the issues dont involve WWE directly. I’m not tweeting it because there’s other political related stuff that’s not a can of worms to open here but David Bixenspan seems to have proof that the events involving Cathy Cartwright having her bookings cancelled came from a WWE official using a WWE email account. Which... yikes... That doesnt mean anything though, unless she can actively prove it was because of Riddle. It would be easy for WWE to say it was because of X or Y. Unless the email actively says 'we are not booking you because Riddle asked us not to' then it remains a 'he said, she said' situation. I absolutely believe that part of the story though, WWE are blatantly going to have axed her due to problems around this situation, but it's going to be on her to prove that, and not what WWE is going to counter with which will either be random stories about problems she may have with others, or just the age old 'storylines changed and we didnt need her anymore, prove that wasnt the case.' babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/email-shows-wwe-cancelled-candy-cartwrightThe email is in here. Basically saying that it’s to do with “past issues” with “one of our talent”. That’s not a major smoking gun but it does put part of it on WWE to prove it wasn’t specifically this issue.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 9, 2020 16:58:00 GMT -5
I’m not tweeting it because there’s other political related stuff that’s not a can of worms to open here but David Bixenspan seems to have proof that the events involving Cathy Cartwright having her bookings cancelled came from a WWE official using a WWE email account. Which... yikes... That doesnt mean anything though, unless she can actively prove it was because of Riddle. It would be easy for WWE to say it was because of X or Y. Unless the email actively says 'we are not booking you because Riddle asked us not to' then it remains a 'he said, she said' situation. I absolutely believe that part of the story though, WWE are blatantly going to have axed her due to problems around this situation, but it's going to be on her to prove that, and not what WWE is going to counter with which will either be random stories about problems she may have with others, or just the age old 'storylines changed and we didnt need her anymore, prove that wasnt the case.' This is the image from the Bixenspan story, and it complicates the idea, because it directly confirms the lawsuit's claim of why her bookings were dropped. This would stand as a decent bit of evidence in that situaiton, and it'd be on WWE to explain this away with some other issue with some other talent now. Edit: and EJM got to it while I was typing up
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Post by Legion on Oct 9, 2020 17:14:14 GMT -5
Yeah, definitely, it's a gun. It's not quite smoking, but it's loaded.
I guess the issue will be how the law responds to that - can you legally refuse work to someone if the hiring of that person would cause issues with another worker?
Or indeed, would WWE be able to wheel out another worker who could claim to have issues with her?
I dont know enough about her to know if WWE would have that, or enough about US employment law to know if it matters.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 17:17:18 GMT -5
I'd say it's more people worrying about her financially rather than believing her story. One woman against a billionaire corporation isn't exactly an easy win. It isn't, you're right on that. But there's just this tone to "nobody should ever take WWE to task because lol McDevitt" that just really pisses me off. Once upon a time, I thought McDevitt was this legal mastermind... the final boss of corporate lawyers. Like an evil Perry Mason. He's really... not. I mean, he's a competent enough lawyer, but if you look at the cases he's won, it's more due to the opposing side somehow being more Carny than McMahon himself is. He'll undoubtedly stall this and try to bleed them dry financially, but if it goes on long enough, they'll settle. I seriously doubt that Vince wants any more skeletons to come out of the closet during this.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 9, 2020 17:50:31 GMT -5
That doesnt mean anything though, unless she can actively prove it was because of Riddle. It would be easy for WWE to say it was because of X or Y. Unless the email actively says 'we are not booking you because Riddle asked us not to' then it remains a 'he said, she said' situation. I absolutely believe that part of the story though, WWE are blatantly going to have axed her due to problems around this situation, but it's going to be on her to prove that, and not what WWE is going to counter with which will either be random stories about problems she may have with others, or just the age old 'storylines changed and we didnt need her anymore, prove that wasnt the case.' This is the image from the Bixenspan story, and it complicates the idea, because it directly confirms the lawsuit's claim of why her bookings were dropped. This would stand as a decent bit of evidence in that situaiton, and it'd be on WWE to explain this away with some other issue with some other talent now. Edit: and EJM got to it while I was typing up Our favorite Q-Anon believing ref.
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