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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 6, 2020 11:53:13 GMT -5
Kristen Stewart is a good actress when given the right role, but those roles are usually extremely limited, which in her case is an emo, moody, sullen, disillusioned type. She struggles with anything beyond that. She's completely wrong for Princess Diana. Attempting the accent alone will be be a problem. Her Irish accent in "Lizzie" was utter shite. I doubt she'll do much better with Diana's accent. A bizarre casting choice. Other terrible casting decisions would be Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan. While a fine actor, it made no sense whatsoever given Khan's established backstory and the fact that Abramsverse Kirk at that age wouldn't even be aware of who the **** he was. There was also no point in Khan being in the film at all since he looks nothing like Khan should and he was given a different name anyway. He could have been an entirely different character. Hell they want to do something that's wrath of khan adjacent (I mean I hate the movie pretty much entirely and it wouldn't save it) .. just have it be one of Khan's crewmembers. Don't even need to mention it... leave hints at it or end with a shot of one of the Cryopods have Khan inside.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 6, 2020 12:17:13 GMT -5
Finn Jones as the Iron Fist. Ignoring the whole should he be this or that ethnicity debate, they couldn't have picked a guy who looked like he's thrown one punch in his life, let alone spent his formative years in rigorous training? Mind you, this is Marvel we're talking about here. As in, the root of the term "Marvel makeover", for how often they turn their leads into fine-tuned athletic machines. How does Finn Jones come in to play a character nicknamed "The Living Weapon" without doing so much as one pushup between being cast and the first day of shooting? I'm still hoping they replace him with Ryan Phillipe in the MCU. Seems like an odd pick, but he looks like Danny, he's become a pretty good actor, and he's a legitimate martial artist.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jul 7, 2020 0:01:03 GMT -5
Finn Jones as the Iron Fist. Ignoring the whole should he be this or that ethnicity debate, they couldn't have picked a guy who looked like he's thrown one punch in his life, let alone spent his formative years in rigorous training? Mind you, this is Marvel we're talking about here. As in, the root of the term "Marvel makeover", for how often they turn their leads into fine-tuned athletic machines. How does Finn Jones come in to play a character nicknamed "The Living Weapon" without doing so much as one pushup between being cast and the first day of shooting? I'm still hoping they replace him with Ryan Phillipe in the MCU. Seems like an odd pick, but he looks like Danny, he's become a pretty good actor, and he's a legitimate martial artist. I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. BECOME a pretty good actor? Did you not see Cruel Intentions? All jokes aside, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the role. I mean, him being ten years older and about three inches shorter than Finn makes him an unlikely replacement, but he's as solid an actor as ever.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 7, 2020 0:16:09 GMT -5
All jokes aside, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the role. I mean, him being ten years older and about three inches shorter than Finn makes him an unlikely replacement, but he's as solid an actor as ever. Age is definitely a major factor against. He's what, 46-47? Word is Marvel aren't planning on bringing Iron Fist back any time soon, if at all, so there's provably little chance of it happening any time before Phillippe hits the big 5-0.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 7, 2020 9:28:34 GMT -5
See I thought that Finn Jones was fine as Iron Fist. The show's issues were always predominantly with writing and pacing rather than acting.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 7, 2020 9:40:43 GMT -5
See I thought that Finn Jones was fine as Iron Fist. The show's issues were always predominantly with writing and pacing rather than acting. It didn't help that Colleen was the only really likeable character in the whole thing. The brief Daughters of the Dragon scenes were as good as the show got.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 7, 2020 9:47:38 GMT -5
See I thought that Finn Jones was fine as Iron Fist. The show's issues were always predominantly with writing and pacing rather than acting. It didn't help that Colleen was the only really likeable character in the whole thing. The brief Daughters of the Dragon scenes were as good as the show got. IMO the best they got with Danny was on the episodes of Luke Cage where he guested. For some reason the writers of a compleyely different show had a better handle on Danny than his own writers did.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 7, 2020 10:29:49 GMT -5
Here is one of my big ones: Victor Mature as Doc Holliday in My Darling Clementine. Hey, let's get the guy known for being chiseled beefcake, that later played Samson no less, and have him be the TB riddled Doc Holliday. On a lesser note in the same film the 43 year old Ward Bond was playing Morgan Earp, while the 27 year old Tim Holt was Virgil Earp. That one was so bizarre that I swear they had the names wrong in the film since clearly, obviously Ward Bond should have been the older brother Virgil while Holt would have been fine as Morgan. Really, of John Ford's great movies I've always been baffled as to the universal acclaim that film gets. It's just one case where I can't separate the actual history from the fictionalized story in the film.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 7, 2020 10:39:28 GMT -5
It didn't help that Colleen was the only really likeable character in the whole thing. The brief Daughters of the Dragon scenes were as good as the show got. IMO the best they got with Danny was on the episodes of Luke Cage where he guested. For some reason the writers of a compleyely different show had a better handle on Danny than his own writers did. Yeah. Heroes for Hire produced by the Luke Cage team would've been a really fun show, I think.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 10:59:50 GMT -5
IMO the best they got with Danny was on the episodes of Luke Cage where he guested. For some reason the writers of a compleyely different show had a better handle on Danny than his own writers did. Yeah. Heroes for Hire produced by the Luke Cage team would've been a really fun show, I think. Luke Cage team had a really good writing staff Sans Diamondback tho
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jul 7, 2020 11:16:50 GMT -5
See I thought that Finn Jones was fine as Iron Fist. The show's issues were always predominantly with writing and pacing rather than acting. It didn't help that Colleen was the only really likeable character in the whole thing. The brief Daughters of the Dragon scenes were as good as the show got. I liked Tom Pelphrey as Ward Meachum. Honestly, his whole arc with his father was more interesting than any of the Hand stuff going on that first season.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 7, 2020 12:28:13 GMT -5
It didn't help that Colleen was the only really likeable character in the whole thing. The brief Daughters of the Dragon scenes were as good as the show got. I liked Tom Pelphrey as Ward Meachum. Honestly, his whole arc with his father was more interesting than any of the Hand stuff going on that first season. I think the big problem with the Netflix shows was how they all had to tie in to the Hand. And well, i hate to say this, Daredevil is my favorite Marvel superhero but The Hand are literally the most boring part of the franchise. Just a nebulous evil organization of identical ninjas who never contribute anything interesting. If I were writing Daredevil and were allowed to do it, my first issue would end with The Hand being exterminated just so I wouldn't have to write about them.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 7, 2020 15:23:41 GMT -5
I liked Tom Pelphrey as Ward Meachum. Honestly, his whole arc with his father was more interesting than any of the Hand stuff going on that first season. I think the big problem with the Netflix shows was how they all had to tie in to the Hand. And well, i hate to say this, Daredevil is my favorite Marvel superhero but The Hand are literally the most boring part of the franchise. Just a nebulous evil organization of identical ninjas who never contribute anything interesting. If I were writing Daredevil and were allowed to do it, my first issue would end with The Hand being exterminated just so I wouldn't have to write about them. Daredevil is an urban vigilante. He works best when fighting mobsters and street hoods, maybe a lower-level costumed criminal. Magical ninjas who can revive the dead don't really fit into that. It's like if the Kree's main adversary was The Punisher.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 7, 2020 18:15:00 GMT -5
I think the big problem with the Netflix shows was how they all had to tie in to the Hand. And well, i hate to say this, Daredevil is my favorite Marvel superhero but The Hand are literally the most boring part of the franchise. Just a nebulous evil organization of identical ninjas who never contribute anything interesting. If I were writing Daredevil and were allowed to do it, my first issue would end with The Hand being exterminated just so I wouldn't have to write about them. Daredevil is an urban vigilante. He works best when fighting mobsters and street hoods, maybe a lower-level costumed criminal. Magical ninjas who can revive the dead don't really fit into that. It's like if the Kree's main adversary was The Punisher. Exactly. While I'm at it, it would be great if the Spectre made boring-ass Ras Al'Ghul and his army of ninjas disappear too. But I digress lol
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jul 7, 2020 23:04:57 GMT -5
The entire movie "Southland Tales" uses this as one of its (many) crutches... seeing as how it sucks really badly, what with being a movie by The "Donny Darko" Director which is not "Donnie Darko".
But yeah, if you ever wanted to see Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson playing a skittish nervous geek, John Lovitz play a bleach-blond stone-cold psycho cop who may or may not bust into rage-violence, waifish SNL alum Sherri O'Terri(?) easily overpower Christopher Lambert, Justin Timberlake as a facially scarred war vet, etc etc etc.
(Several of these were fairly minor roles, but they were the most "wtf are they doing here...while playing THAT character?" that I remember off the top of my head)
Of course, to see those performances, you'd have to watch the movie, which you should not do. It's like That "Donnie Darko" Guy's "Battlefield Earth" (passion project based on crap source material and also they're in over their head and have no self-restraint)
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Post by Cela on Jul 8, 2020 12:33:28 GMT -5
Just watched the Netflix Eurovision movie, overall enjoyed it. But Will Ferrell was just terrible in it. Every time he came on screen, it ground to a halt, and he's not a good singer despite him thinking otherwise. Also, given that he was supposed to be childhood friends with Rachel McAdams despite him being 11 years older and looking 30 years older was just bad.
But since he wrote and produced it, he can cast himself, for better or for worse.
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Post by zero744 on Jul 8, 2020 18:21:41 GMT -5
Checks batwoman thread, yep fits right here
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 8, 2020 19:49:34 GMT -5
Checks batwoman thread, yep fits right here Why? Its a brand new character so how can anyone say WTF about the choice?
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Post by Hurbster on Jul 9, 2020 10:27:16 GMT -5
Thomas Jane as the Punisher still gets me Man, I loved Thomas Jane as Punisher. Really bummed he only ever got one crack at it. He was in this, NSFW of course.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 9, 2020 10:29:50 GMT -5
Checks batwoman thread, yep fits right here Why? Its a brand new character so how can anyone say WTF about the choice? I think it's more of "why didn't they just recast Kate instead of making up a new character?" thing
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