y4j1981
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Post by y4j1981 on Jul 17, 2020 5:52:59 GMT -5
David O. Russell headbutted George Clooney on the set of Three Kings, and tormented Amy Adams during the production of American Hustle to the point where she would hide in her trailer and cry on a daily basis until Christian Bale, not exactly known to be a sensitive soul himself, told Russell to either knock it off or he'd knock him out. And then there was his meltdown during production of I Heart Huckabees, screaming at the cast and crew and throwing props at a PA: Second video of a another argument. Plenty of NSFW words
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Post by crowley1986 on Jul 17, 2020 6:10:06 GMT -5
Joss Whedon is a total phony with his girl power crap, if the allegations against him are to be believed. And I can believe them because he treated Charisma Carpenter *and* her character, Cordelia, ABYSMALLY all for the sin of Charisma daring to get pregnant. I don't think Sarah Michelle Gellar loved working with him, either, IIRC. outspoken male feminist who goes on about being one, being an abrasive asshat/not practicing what he preaches shocka
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 17, 2020 6:29:01 GMT -5
Second video of a another argument. Plenty of NSFW words Man, Russell's sets seem like the worst places to work. No wonder so many actors refuse to work with him.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jul 17, 2020 6:37:00 GMT -5
Genius creator of an art form is a prick? It’s extremely common. This." Creative" people are capable of being phenomenally difficult to work with and be around. If you're creating some kind of art then it's an expression of something that's often deeply personal, and you want it expressed correctly. A lot of musicians and filmmakers and artists and whoever else are highly-strung control freaks, but it's because they're trying to convey a particular thing and want to make sure it's done correctly.
Not excusing it or anything, it's just one of those things that unfortunately comes with the territory sometimes.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 17, 2020 7:15:32 GMT -5
During the filming of The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland apparently couldn't stop corpsing through the filming of a scene, I believe the Cowardly Lion's introduction. Frustrated, director Victor Fleming took her aside and slapped her full force in the face. She then filmed it in one take. At least Fleming had enough class to apologize for it afterwards.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jul 17, 2020 7:22:59 GMT -5
During the filming of The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland apparently couldn't stop corpsing through the filming of a scene, I believe the Cowardly Lion's introduction. Frustrated, director Victor Fleming took her aside and slapped her full force in the face. She then filmed it in one take. At least Fleming had enough class to apologize for it afterwards. Shit, that I don’t want to make light of that. But... the corpsing and the abuse. It reminds me of that Botchamania trope.. Again this is not OK. Even in the 1930s
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Post by genericusername on Jul 17, 2020 7:55:19 GMT -5
Perfectionists tend to be pricks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 8:25:21 GMT -5
Perfectionist tend to be pricks. Hey asshole! You should have pluralized the word "perfectionist" you worthless piece of shit!
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jul 18, 2020 3:08:37 GMT -5
Werner Herzog once pointed a loaded gun in Klaus Kinski's face and told him he would kill him and then himself after Kinski threatened to walk off a movie. Can't say that I blame him for that as Klaus Kinski was a real nasty piece of work.
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Post by SmashTV on Jul 18, 2020 3:25:26 GMT -5
Kubrick’s daughter filmed some behind the scenes stuff during production of The Shining, and at one point captures Shelley Duvall fainting on set. People are rightly concerned, but then Kubrick comes over, dismisses them all and says something like ‘Don’t give Shelley any concern’. That’s just brutal and totally unnecessary. In terms of film making, this is the director who re-filmed scenes for Eyes Wide Shit and, when Jennifer Jason Leigh wasn’t available, cut her entirely from the film. That’s pretty intense.
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Post by mystermystery on Jul 18, 2020 12:20:39 GMT -5
A couple Stephen King stories on Kubrick, the first one being the usual Kubrick story I think of when hearing of him:
Some directors will check with actors and get their permission to do stunts like the firing of gun to get a reaction (I know Joe Lynch did for the movie Everly after making sure Salma Hayek was okay with it) but some just like surprising actors (I believe the death of Gruber in Die Hard is compounded by the fact that they let the actor go at 2 instead of 3).
I believe Ed Harris once clocked James Cameron for short changing his oxygen for an underwater scene in The Abyss for dramatic purposes.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 18, 2020 12:43:04 GMT -5
Yeah, Rickman said they were going to drop him on 3 and the director did it on the 2 count
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 18, 2020 14:05:00 GMT -5
I believe Ed Harris once clocked James Cameron for short changing his oxygen for an underwater scene in The Abyss for dramatic purposes. I don't know if Harris got physical with Cameron, but he has refused to talk about what happened on the shoot and refuses to work with Cameron ever again. In fact, of the entire cast only Michael Biehn ever worked on another Cameron movie, with many of them referring to the movie as "The Abuse" when talking about it. To be fair, Cameron himself came close to drowning on the shoot, and calls it the worst production he's ever been involved with.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 18, 2020 14:11:58 GMT -5
Just recently, a guy who worked on all 3 Matrix films said that working on the sequels was a nightmare, because between movie 1 and movie 2 the Wachowskis had read Kubrick's book on filmmaking. Basically said that they were nice folks directing the first, and psycho abusers on the sequels.
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Post by msc on Jul 18, 2020 14:21:56 GMT -5
The story I heard was Cameron cut the oxygen for the scene Harris's character nearly drowns so it would look realistic. After the scene was finished, Harris went over and punched Cameron in the face. Cameron was all sweetness and light to Harris for the rest of the shoot.
Werner Herzog is mad as a box full of hatters, but I can well believe he needed the gun for his own protection. Kinski was intense...and it turned out, a deeply dodgy individual.
There's the story about Michael Curtiz, Noah's Ark and the extras he let drown too.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jul 18, 2020 14:36:35 GMT -5
John Landis gladly ignored many film industry laws including child labour laws that resulted in the death of Vic Morrow and 2 children
(and he also has a POS son)
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jul 18, 2020 17:37:11 GMT -5
I mean, I get that he's a great director and I do understand that you need to have high standards, especially if you're working on some of the productions that Kubrick has had to work on; but there's no real excuse for going to the level that Kubrick has gone to, especially to Shelley Duvall. Like, I don't get why people think that treating people like absolute dogshit will get them to work for you? For all the problems that 2020 has, I like to imagine that at least nobody would get to be as abusive as Kubrick was to the people that he worked with. Yeah, I think it is possible to still be that horrible to work with.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jul 18, 2020 17:40:53 GMT -5
Joss Whedon is a total phony with his girl power crap, if the allegations against him are to be believed. And I can believe them because he treated Charisma Carpenter *and* her character, Cordelia, ABYSMALLY all for the sin of Charisma daring to get pregnant. I don't think Sarah Michelle Gellar loved working with him, either, IIRC. outspoken male feminist who goes on about being one, being an abrasive asshat/not practicing what he preaches shocka When Buffy when to the FX in reruns, it was during the promos where they had an aside explaining that Whedon would ONLY say the full title, that's when I got a weird vibe from the guy. Like I don't put a finger on it until much later when stuff came out.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 19, 2020 6:30:49 GMT -5
Joss Whedon is a total phony with his girl power crap, if the allegations against him are to be believed. And I can believe them because he treated Charisma Carpenter *and* her character, Cordelia, ABYSMALLY all for the sin of Charisma daring to get pregnant. I don't think Sarah Michelle Gellar loved working with him, either, IIRC. And there was that episode of Firefly that was thankfully never made. He also got Angel canceled. The WB was waiting to make a decision on renewal, because they were still looking at pilots and trying to decide their schedule. Joss forced their hand by requesting an early renewal, not leaving them alone about it, and the WB just said "You want an answer? You're canceled."
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