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Post by Fake Jesus on Jul 17, 2020 0:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 17, 2020 0:36:20 GMT -5
Surely you can find a better weed guy in Florida that isn't a convicted sex offender.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 17, 2020 0:45:00 GMT -5
Also included, Ricochet’s other half Kacy Catanzaro and Ivalice. Which is great.
As has been pointed out by people, and I’m not sure if they technically can be open or not but Gangrel has a school and Spears and Breeze opened a school together not long ago so...what’s the association here? Is it really just the weed?
There’s just so much to this story at this point; why is Moose posting this up a couple of days before Slammiversary? Why do people still associate with this guy after so long? Why would you then go ahead and post up more videos right afterwards (not Moose, the school did) especially after a couple of stories came out during SpeakingOut about him?
Like, I don’t think he’s an Epstein as much as an inappropriate trainer like the ones who were exposed already except you throw in a paedophila conviction on top of that and that practically should make the guy toxic forever.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 17, 2020 1:59:48 GMT -5
If you told me that Chasyn Rance injected people with a lethal poison and only gave the antidote if they hung out with him for a day, like some kind of shady cyberpunk RPG quest giver, I'd believe you.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 17, 2020 3:25:39 GMT -5
Like, I don’t think he’s an Epstein as much as an inappropriate trainer like the ones who were exposed already except you throw in a paedophila conviction on top of that and that practically should make the guy toxic forever. I'd be willing to at least accept Chasyn Rance as a presence in the Florida wrestling community if say, he would stop training minors. I understand sex offenders have a right to make a living, but he should not be in a position of power over minors given that he is as sex offender because he slept with a teenager. There's no reason his school shouldn't have an 18+ policy, which should also extend to any shows they have a hand in promoting, or where Chasyn performs in. But besides that, there's several stories about Team Vision Dojo that would have my skin crawling even if Chasyn Rance wasn't a sex offender training minors at his school. Such as the Samantha Fiddler case, which I believe Teddy Hart and Chasyn Rance had a hand in her "disappearance." Or how about him threatening the life of a sex worker? There's too much smoke here for there not to be a five alarm blaze. How Team Vision Dojo is allowed to still operate is beyond me, much less having respected stars like Moose, Ricochet, Kacy Catanzaro, Ivelisse, among others, endorse the school. And it gets worse if you look at TVD's Instagram page, and you see people like R-Truth and Carmella being photographed on their property.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 17, 2020 4:38:07 GMT -5
Dude.
I would f***ing fire anyone still associating with this guy.
STOP ASSOCIATING WITH CHASYN RANCE.
I don't give a f*** if you were friends with him before. Tough shit. Act like a f***ing rational human being and cut the f***er out of your life.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jul 17, 2020 4:47:00 GMT -5
Apparently from what I learned from an earlier thread, Chasyn Rance lives with Larry Zybysko of all people? What?
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Jul 17, 2020 4:53:20 GMT -5
I wonder if there is something a bit Epsteiny about this guy. There are those allegations that he is or was producing unlicensed/illegal porn films for private buyers; Teddy Hart was alleged to have been involved, and I wonder if it's possible that there are a few more high-profile participants.
This guy was convicted in 2011 if I'm not mistaken, and not only hasn't been blackballed but continues to booked, and even after his conviction was booked by FIP, Evolve, and Defiant as well as the infamous NJPW appearance. There's just something off about the fact that he's still involved in the industry and openly associating with big name wrestlers when you'd think that a conviction as serious as his would be the death of a career.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 17, 2020 7:26:10 GMT -5
I wonder if there is something a bit Epsteiny about this guy. There are those allegations that he is or was producing unlicensed/illegal porn films for private buyers; Teddy Hart was alleged to have been involved, and I wonder if it's possible that there are a few more high-profile participants. This guy was convicted in 2011 if I'm not mistaken, and not only hasn't been blackballed but continues to booked, and even after his conviction was booked by FIP, Evolve, and Defiant as well as the infamous NJPW appearance. There's just something off about the fact that he's still involved in the industry and openly associating with big name wrestlers when you'd think that a conviction as serious as his would be the death of a career. *Note what I am saying does not reflect my views nor id it meant to downplay the seriousness of what Rance did* I think with a lot of wrestlers its either they don't know and when they find out they don't care. If his story is he met a girl she said she was 18 and they had consensual sex but turns out lied about her age? There are wrestlers that are going to shrug that off. Now from everything I've heard that is not actually what happened, but it sounds like people take Rance at his word
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 17, 2020 8:27:19 GMT -5
He's the new Rob Feinstein isn't he? He's got money and connections so everyone is happy to look the other way.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Jul 17, 2020 8:32:08 GMT -5
*Note what I am saying does not reflect my views nor id it meant to downplay the seriousness of what Rance did* I think with a lot of wrestlers its either they don't know and when they find out they don't care. If his story is he met a girl she said she was 18 and they had consensual sex but turns out lied about her age? There are wrestlers that are going to shrug that off. Now from everything I've heard that is not actually what happened, but it sounds like people take Rance at his word It's possible. I'm prepared to accept that a few promoters who've booked him once or twice aren't aware of his background, but the details of what he actually did are known and a matter of public record, and I find it difficult to believe that wrestlers who've known him for a long time, or a promotion like FIP - who booked him again quite a few times after he was convicted - weren't made aware at some point of the specifics of his crimes. Moose had tried defend him here too, so he's at least aware
Of course, I might be completely wrong. He apparently rents his ring out and it may be that he continues to get booked for that reason. It might be that people who are friends with or book him just don't care, given someone like Rick Michaels still gets booked on the Georgia indy circuit after pleading guilty to similar crimes, albeit with smaller promotions. But I do wonder if it's possible that there's something a bit more sinister here, he's had some big indy gigs and a few people who are always keen to either jump to his defence or downplay their links with him. There's something odd about him.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 17, 2020 11:55:30 GMT -5
I wonder if there is something a bit Epsteiny about this guy. There are those allegations that he is or was producing unlicensed/illegal porn films for private buyers; Teddy Hart was alleged to have been involved, and I wonder if it's possible that there are a few more high-profile participants. This guy was convicted in 2011 if I'm not mistaken, and not only hasn't been blackballed but continues to booked, and even after his conviction was booked by FIP, Evolve, and Defiant as well as the infamous NJPW appearance. There's just something off about the fact that he's still involved in the industry and openly associating with big name wrestlers when you'd think that a conviction as serious as his would be the death of a career. *Note what I am saying does not reflect my views nor id it meant to downplay the seriousness of what Rance did* I think with a lot of wrestlers its either they don't know and when they find out they don't care. If his story is he met a girl she said she was 18 and they had consensual sex but turns out lied about her age? There are wrestlers that are going to shrug that off. Now from everything I've heard that is not actually what happened, but it sounds like people take Rance at his word According to the Florida Sex Offender Registry, he was convicted when he was 28 of having sex with a minor between the ages of 12 and 15.
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Post by chazraps on Jul 17, 2020 12:01:10 GMT -5
Abusers should be exiled.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:20:46 GMT -5
I like how Moose was all "You're too negative! Focus on the positive things in life." to one reply.
Dude, you're hanging out with a pedophile just for some pot.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 17, 2020 13:00:24 GMT -5
I'll never understand why wrestlers continue to a) associate with a known diddler, b) get said diddler booked and c) keep posting pictures of them hanging out with said diddler.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 17, 2020 13:00:39 GMT -5
Why is someone on MAIN ROSTER money resorting to hanging around with a nonce for his free weed?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 17, 2020 13:38:20 GMT -5
*Note what I am saying does not reflect my views nor id it meant to downplay the seriousness of what Rance did* I think with a lot of wrestlers its either they don't know and when they find out they don't care. If his story is he met a girl she said she was 18 and they had consensual sex but turns out lied about her age? There are wrestlers that are going to shrug that off. Now from everything I've heard that is not actually what happened, but it sounds like people take Rance at his word According to the Florida Sex Offender Registry, he was convicted when he was 28 of having sex with a minor between the ages of 12 and 15. Thus i said the post didn't reflect my views. I know what public records say and I am not disputing what he did. I was just answering why he probably gets a free pass with wrestlers
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 17, 2020 13:44:09 GMT -5
That video definitely was in the past, because Stacy Ervin Jr. was there and I thought he was done with wrestling for good?
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Post by markymark on Jul 17, 2020 13:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 17, 2020 14:29:08 GMT -5
According to the Florida Sex Offender Registry, he was convicted when he was 28 of having sex with a minor between the ages of 12 and 15. Thus i said the post didn't reflect my views. I know what public records say and I am not disputing what he did. I was just answering why he probably gets a free pass with wrestlers Totally, just wanted to clarify for anyone in the thread who wasn't aware.
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