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Post by Dub H on Jul 17, 2020 15:00:54 GMT -5
And he apparently sells drugs to then
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Post by honsou on Jul 17, 2020 15:03:42 GMT -5
This just goes to show if you have enough power and influence you are basically exempt from any of the rules. Rance is an interesting example because its clear that his ceiling is...well where he is now but people feel comfortable hanging out with him because of the drugs and the free ring time and they know that no one is actually going to hold them accountable for hanging out with him.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 17, 2020 16:28:09 GMT -5
Ricochet and Kacy have been DM'ing fans saying they didn't know about Rance's history which, regardless if it's true or not...just put out a public statement. Like, I know that stuff was driven into the ground during SpeakingOut but it's better than looking like you're ignoring it publicly.
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Post by chazraps on Jul 17, 2020 16:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 17, 2020 16:43:17 GMT -5
That video definitely was in the past, because Stacy Ervin Jr. was there and I thought he was done with wrestling for good? I also thought Kacy and Ricochet broke up?
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Post by 111111 on Jul 17, 2020 17:02:53 GMT -5
I think people are trying to give these wrestlers the benefit of the doubt, but if there's anything that's become clear from 3+ decades of shoot interviews and recent revelations through speakingout its that the culture of wrestling is f***ed up to the point that I guarantee these lot are probably aware of these allegations and don't really give much of a shit and anyone who does probably finds some flimsy justification to excuse it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 17:11:39 GMT -5
Moose, you work in the same promotion as Mr. 420, Rob Van Dam. I'm pretty sure he has better weed then Chasyn.
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 17, 2020 17:41:24 GMT -5
That video definitely was in the past, because Stacy Ervin Jr. was there and I thought he was done with wrestling for good? I also thought Kacy and Ricochet broke up? Stacy Irvin posted videos from the same thing that day to.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 17, 2020 17:57:43 GMT -5
That video definitely was in the past, because Stacy Ervin Jr. was there and I thought he was done with wrestling for good? I also thought Kacy and Ricochet broke up? The video was recent and I dont know about the latter
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 17, 2020 18:04:15 GMT -5
Maybe and I do mean maybe kacy and Stacy didn’t know about rance and richochet just brought them to a guy he knew but that’s a big f***ing maybe
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Post by Venti on Jul 17, 2020 18:08:49 GMT -5
On the topic of Chasyn Rance, I thought this was pretty interesting. I thought the infamous booking of Rance was in 2018, and Kenny didn't know him and only let him wrestle because he helped set up the ring? And only met him in 2004? This screenshot says 2016. i.4cdn.org/asp/1594069831717.jpg
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 17, 2020 18:25:29 GMT -5
On the topic of Chasyn Rance, I thought this was pretty interesting. I thought the infamous booking of Rance was in 2018, and Kenny didn't know him and only let him wrestle because he helped set up the ring? And only met him in 2004? This screenshot says 2016. i.4cdn.org/asp/1594069831717.jpgYeah, Kenny leaned on them to supply the ring multiple times because they were local. Didn't mean he knew anything about the dude. He didn't even 'let him wrestle'; the ring crew got to do a dark match and Rance worked it. In the age of social media and in-your-pocket photography, having a picture taken with someone means little to nothing. Kenny's put out statements on this that say Jebailey had been renting rings since before his involvement in CEO and he wasn't sure why he was credited with the hook-up in 2016 (as per his posts in this twitter thread twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1013372426154053632 ). So that leaves a weird story, sure, but the continued push and focus on Kenny specifically always feels like a bit of an issue; Rance wasn't as widely known back then, this scandal was what made "Chasyn Rance is a pedophile and don't hang out with him" into a headline story.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 17, 2020 18:34:22 GMT -5
On the topic of Chasyn Rance, I thought this was pretty interesting. I thought the infamous booking of Rance was in 2018, and Kenny didn't know him and only let him wrestle because he helped set up the ring? And only met him in 2004? This screenshot says 2016. i.4cdn.org/asp/1594069831717.jpgTo be fair, it is possible that he was unaware of Rance's history prior to 2018. It's not like he was a household name, and most people outside of Florida only became aware of it, after local fans outed him following the show. This is probably an instance of Kenny just helping out a friend in JeBailey, by hooking him up with a local wrestling group he'd heard of. He seemed genuinely upset once he found out that Chasyn was a pedophile, apologized to everybody who was upset, and offered a refund to people who felt unsafe. It helps that he's had no interaction with Rance since then and has seemingly severed all ties with him. This on the other hand shows a seemingly recent video of stars interacting with a pedophile at a time where his crimes are no secret to anybody, and not even in a professional capacity but seemingly in a casual, private setting.
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Post by prettynami on Jul 17, 2020 18:45:52 GMT -5
If you told me that Chasyn Rance injected people with a lethal poison and only gave the antidote if they hung out with him for a day, like some kind of shady cyberpunk RPG quest giver, I'd believe you. A drug designed on Lemro's home planet in the 32nd century. If you do the drug 5 times you are hooked for life. If you are injected with the drug more than 5 times and quit cold turkey, you die. If you are injected 100 times, 100 percent you die! The only way to get off the drug before 5 times is a complete blood transfusion! Or something.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 17, 2020 19:01:47 GMT -5
Wasn't Santana Garrett with Rance for a long time? She is damn lucky to have gotten past that and still have a career.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 17, 2020 19:04:03 GMT -5
Wasn't Santana Garrett with Rance for a long time? She is damn lucky to have gotten past that and still have a career. From what I remember hearing here, her relationship with Rance was the reason she wasn’t in WWE for ages. It’s not a coincidence she got signed not long after they broke up.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jul 17, 2020 19:32:15 GMT -5
Don't Breeze and Spears have a school in Florida? Same with Gangrel, so why would anyone still associate with the nonce?
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 17, 2020 19:41:02 GMT -5
I'd give Kacy benefit of the doubt that she didn't know about Rance beforehand since she wasn't in wrestling until WWE signed her to a development deal. Maybe she doesn't pay attention to wrestling stuff that happens outside WWE.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 17, 2020 21:47:01 GMT -5
I normally, regardless of the crime, believe that people who have served their time deserve a second chance provided they are remorseful and are making an honest effort to turn their life around.
Good people can make bad mistakes.
With Rance He just seems oblivious and lacking any self awareness or understanding the seriousness of what he did.
Regarding sex crimes (especially with minors), Whether innocent/guilty and accused or convicted, you at the very least must avoid any and all interaction with minors.
With him training minors, comments he has made online and actions it really seems like he has zero care about the gravity of what he did.
As I wrote earlier, I would normally be willing to give a person a second chance. However in this case people really need to stop associating with him. Way too many red flags.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jul 17, 2020 21:51:11 GMT -5
Apparently from what I learned from an earlier thread, Chasyn Rance lives with Larry Zybysko of all people? What? Is everyone here going to analyze everything about this story and ignore this nugget of information?! What is the connection between these two?
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