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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 21, 2020 21:46:59 GMT -5
I mean we are very close to Full Gear and they haven't even alluded to a women's title match. When was the last time Nyla was even on tv? Shida has been more frequent than her and she's never on. Nyla was shown ringside for Shida/Swole looking upset that Shida won, so she's been around, she also beat up King which set up their DARK match All they need is a segment or promo to spark it off, they still have a few weeks to do it I hope they use it. You have a lot more fate than I do. Nyla looking upset at ringside being the only big thing they've done for this match so far says it all really
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 21, 2020 21:47:50 GMT -5
One thing that frustrates me is how often it feels like Baker gets time that benefits no woman except herself. This is coming off of a long feud with Big Swole where Swole looked good...but the immediate aftermath has just about yanked Swole back to less than she was before it.
Baker has a henchwoman who is never, ever getting pushed and exists on-screen entirely to make Baker's act better. Her main foil is Tony Schiavone. Now and then she interacts with Penelope Ford, but it tends to make Ford look like the lesser star because her fiance talks for her.
Basically...half the time Baker shows up, there's no forward momentum for anybody, including for her. She'll be funny in the moment, but then it stops mattering because it doesn't actually point to a feud or develop anyone who isn't already developed.
At a time when Serena Deeb and Red Velvet are blank slates, when Big Swole has been undercut, when the champion is absent - it's absolutely criminal that we get Britt Baker segments that advance nothing except "Britt is funny" or "Britt can go in the ring again."
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Post by chrom on Oct 21, 2020 21:48:46 GMT -5
I'm sounding like a broken record at this point but where is your champion AEW? She is never promoted, never gets promo time and is brought in for a cold feud here and there. Like what the f***? Like is their any point in me actually complaining about this anymore since they seem to have no intention of fixing this? This shit is super embarrassing quite frankly Seriously, I said in the show thread their refusal to use more than two a week is appalling and I can't tell if their stubborn or stupid at this point. Seriously your champion should not be booked and shown only once a month.
They could give us vignettes for Abadon, Serena, La Sicuria, Conti, they are refusing to acknowledge the roster they have.
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Post by chrom on Oct 21, 2020 21:51:32 GMT -5
One thing that frustrates me is how often it feels like Baker gets time that benefits no woman except herself. This is coming off of a long feud with Big Swole where Swole looked good...but the immediate aftermath has just about yanked Swole back to less than she was before it. Baker has a henchwoman who is never, ever getting pushed and exists on-screen entirely to make Baker's act better. Her main foil is Tony Schiavone. Now and then she interacts with Penelope Ford, but it tends to make Ford look like the lesser star because her fiance talks for her. Basically...half the time Baker shows up, there's no forward momentum for anybody, including for her. She'll be funny in the moment, but then it stops mattering because it doesn't actually point to a feud or develop anyone who isn't already developed. At a time when Serena Deeb and Red Velvet are blank slates, when Big Swole has been undercut, when the champion is absent - it's absolutely criminal that we get Britt Baker segments that advance nothing except "Britt is funny" or "Britt can go in the ring again." None of the other girls ever get promo time or vignettes. Why should we care about any of them.
I've mentioned that the rankings are absolutely worthless as nothing ever changes in them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 21:54:41 GMT -5
Thunder Rosa vs Deed is happening on that UWN show next week... maybe something will happen then?
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Post by markymark on Oct 21, 2020 22:43:52 GMT -5
The Nightmare Sisters didn't flop. And there is no indication it's over by any stretch so as I said above, it's really weird that people are just like "Well it's over, Dustin and QT are just gonna forget it ever happened" like this is WWE booking or something. AEW forgets nothing and aside from Nightmare Collective has never straight up dropped soething. And can we stop acting like Brandi in ring hasn't improved a lot even since Nightmare Sisters started? Like she can helm a faction and be fine. They did, though. Like, the in-ring work was good. They were a solid team and turned out good matches. But...oy, that rating for the Deadly Draw final. Britt's drawn attention to the drops in viewership attributed to women's matches, and Nightmare Sisters vs. Ivelisse & Diamante was one of the worse drops. Given that Ivelisse vs. Diamante - a match featuring those same two, with no real build and with both of them coming in as brand new wrestlers - didn't do so badly, it's pretty clear who gets the blame if AEW feels like assigning blame. They've certainly reacted to it as though the Nightmare Sisters act was the issue, quickly breaking them up (which was a logical move anyway) and having Brandi conspicuously seek a new tag partner before putting the whole thing to bed properly. (This is, of course, all complicated by Allie having an absence in there.) There's a major fandom hate-on for Brandi. It's not deserved, it's not fair, it's frankly really bad. But it has its effects, and one of its effects is that the women's number three active babyface is dead in the water. Q7: 640,000 (-26,000), 288,000 in 18-49 (-73,000) – Ivelisse & Diamante vs. Brandi Rhodes & Allie 411mania.com/wrestling/quarter-hour-breakdowns-aew-dynamite-nxt-8-22-2020/Lowest demo for AEW since June and also this was the last time the demo for AEW went under 300K. The booking of Brandi has been mostly bad this year, from the Nightmare Collective to the flip flop heel face Big Show style during the Nightmare Sisters run, to taking down the DO by herself, etc.
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Post by markymark on Oct 22, 2020 17:41:29 GMT -5
I liked how they kept kayfabe during the shot of Brandi with her and Anna Jay, I think their next match should have some kind of stipulation, like NO DQ, what a shame that there was 0 followup of Swole/Penelope.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 22, 2020 18:08:04 GMT -5
I liked how they kept kayfabe during the shot of Brandi with her and Anna Jay, I think their next match should have some kind of stipulation, like NO DQ, what a shame that there was 0 followup of Swole/Penelope. Swole/Penelope could have a DARK Match
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Post by markymark on Oct 22, 2020 18:30:49 GMT -5
Schiavone confirmed Shida will be on Dark next week.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 22, 2020 18:33:02 GMT -5
Schiavone confirmed Shida will be on Dark next week. I'm really glad she's somewhere. She's also had good DARK matches before, it's what got Abadon signed.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 22, 2020 18:52:40 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if it's Elayna Black getting the Standard Shida Tryout match. Black seems to have buzz from people who have paid attention to her (sneaking onto the PWI Women's 100 is not an easy feat for someone with as low exposure as she's had so far, especially someone as new and young as she is), an actual gimmick, confidence on the mic, and a penchant for hype videos of the sort that AEW likes to use.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 22, 2020 19:33:00 GMT -5
Everytime I feel like giving up, AEW does something cool with this division
I love brand synergy like this.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 22, 2020 23:11:08 GMT -5
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Post by Celgress on Oct 22, 2020 23:22:10 GMT -5
Schiavone confirmed Shida will be on Dark next week. Why am I not surprised?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 0:32:20 GMT -5
Schiavone confirmed Shida will be on Dark next week. Why am I not surprised? Shida hasn't been on DARK in a long time, actually.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 0:33:13 GMT -5
Maybe Japan doesn't have the same loophole of travel as Shanna apparently has, it would be nice to get her back if they can They really should look into signing Ellering, she's good. Savoy also pairs immediately with Swole.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 23, 2020 0:36:20 GMT -5
Even Moxley had a match on dark as a champion.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 0:39:13 GMT -5
NXT's women's division is just more stacked and has more names to it to get some of the stats that it does. Yes AEW needs to build the division but they came in with a division without many known names, and then they lost one of their biggest stars in Riho and rising stars in Statlander until next year probably. Shida, Nyla, Baker, and Rosa are a good top core, Ivelisse, Diamante, Swole, Jay, Brandi, Ford, Abadon, Conti, Deeb, Shanna (maybe soon?) are a good mid to upper core, and they have a TON of young developmental, that's their biggest upside right now They would be best served to sign some more girls yes, but it's hard to compare two women's divisions where one is still trying to find its identity vs a division that has quite possibly the best women's wrestler in the world in Io Shirai at the helm of it and insane developed depth, especially in comparison to the main roster. The AEW girls can find themselves with time and a concerted effort, the NXT girls are already there and will continue to be there until Vince tries to pluck them away...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 0:40:02 GMT -5
Even Moxley had a match on dark as a champion. He's had multiple actually, the only title that hasn't shown up on DARK is the TNT Championship I believe. DARK's even had AAA Mega Campeon title defenses...
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