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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 9:07:11 GMT -5
So Rache Chanel and Alex Gracia were at WWE tryouts, well they can have Rache, she fits better in that system than AEW. Allysin Kay is now a free agent so I think AEW should bring her as the veteran of the division imo Chanel's an 11 year veteran, so she's no rookie. It'd be interesting if WWE signed her, I don't really know how far she'd get, but in AEW her ceiling didn't seem very high either, but hey good luck to her, she at the very least seemed to have her gimmick completely down Allysin Kay/Sienna would be a big grab for the women's division if they can get her, she's a vet but she's also only 32, she has a lot left in the tank and is a great worker. If AEW were able to get her and Rosa, it'd flip the division around pretty quick in terms of a quality ladder. With no Joshi, a top rung of Shida, Nyla, Baker, Rosa, Sienna, Deeb, Swole and Statlander when she came back would be fine, and then you'd have Ford, Brandi, Jay, Allie, Ivelisse, Diamante, potentially Leyla Hirsch, Tay Conti, Abadon, and others on the lower end of the card that can develop too not even counting the Young Lioness pool they could also have that are making strides. I don't know what Rosa's doing, if what Corgan said is true she's still signed to NWA for a couple months, could still work with AEW in that time then possibly sign full time with them, but I would look at Kay/Sienna as that security blanket if Rosa falls through absolutely.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 9:12:56 GMT -5
With Allysin, AEW has a second chance at getting a third chance at getting a major veteran in the US scene. They missed Mercedes, no idea what is going on with Rosa, but Allysin is pretty good in the ring, better on the mic than both, and also has the MMA experience. I wouldn’t say they missed Mercedes as much as Mercedes only ever saw AEW as a bargaining chip. She was always one of those “WWE is my dream” types (and given the stellar response both Retribution and The Robert Stone Brand have gotten, I’d say her gamble paid off). Yeah that's kind of the thing some people seem to think AEW flat out "Missed" when it came to certain talents Martinez was always gonna go to WWE, it was pretty clear, and she used her AEW tryouts to get that money so hey can't fault her Ben Carter was working for free on AEW, and needed a VISA, signing with WWE got him money and helps sort that issue with NXT UK I believe. Deonna Purazzo was basically gifted the Knockouts Ace role in Impact wrestling. Can't really fault her for going there when they gave her the world A lot of factors happen when it comes to talent that sign and don't, but we'll see when it comes to Rosa and Kay, either would be huge, both would be game changing for this division.
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Post by moxfan1 on Nov 3, 2020 9:16:31 GMT -5
So Rache Chanel and Alex Gracia were at WWE tryouts, well they can have Rache, she fits better in that system than AEW. Allysin Kay is now a free agent so I think AEW should bring her as the veteran of the division imo They can have Rache Chanel. Alex Gracia it doesn't surprise me at all they want to sign her. She's got great look and gimmick. She's just not good enough in the ring for AEW to sign now. She's better off going to NXT and working at performance center for a few years. Allysin Kay is a must sign for AEW IMO. Hopefully AEW already talk to her in advance and has some deal in place. Kay has character and personality that a lot of the woman don't have right now in AEW. If you want them to get on tv more. You need to show that character and charisma. So if they aren't gonna sign Tessa you can't miss on Kay. Don't get me wrong Shida and Deeb are good wrestlers(Riho the same). But they don't have promo skills and charisma as babyfaces to carry the division. So when you got good heels with Baker and Nyla Rose with Vickie. Or even Anna Jay with Dark Order or Penelope with Kip. You need to bring in veteran baby face to carry things. With Tessa, Thunder Rosa or Kay. Or build up Tay Conti as one.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 9:19:52 GMT -5
So Rache Chanel and Alex Gracia were at WWE tryouts, well they can have Rache, she fits better in that system than AEW. Allysin Kay is now a free agent so I think AEW should bring her as the veteran of the division imo They can have Rache Chanel. Alex Gracia it doesn't surprise me at all they want to sign her. She's got great look and gimmick. She's just not good enough in the ring for AEW to sign now. She's better off going to NXT and working at performance center for a few years. Allysin Kay is a must sign for AEW IMO. Hopefully AEW already talk to her in advance and has some deal in place. Kay has character and personality that a lot of the woman don't have right now in AEW. If you want them to get on tv more. You need to show that character and charisma. So if they aren't gonna sign Tessa you can't miss on Kay. Well they aren't the only ones who aren't gonna sign Tessa, there's a reason she's still sitting there Kay doesn't have a fingernails worth of the baggage Tessa does, so yeah, in terms of that comparison it'd be a no brainer for me. Kay's great and I would love to have her in the division. Surround her with some of the young girls like Kenzie Paige and Dani Jordan and make a mean girls stable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 9:22:14 GMT -5
Kay would be a damn good pick-up for the women's division, but I've heard rumblings she's WWE-bound which wouldn't surprise me at all. She's already worked for them previously in the Mae Young Classic, and there's always gonna' be wrestlers who are convinced they'll be the exception rather than the rule when it comes to how WWE uses them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 9:26:08 GMT -5
Kay would be a damn good pick-up for the women's division, but I've heard rumblings she's WWE-bound which wouldn't surprise me at all. She's already worked for them previously in the Mae Young Classic, and there's always gonna' be people who are convinced they'll be the exception rather than the rule when it comes to how WWE uses them. Obviously WWE will take a crack at her too. I know she worked the Mae Young Classic, but so did Big Swole, that doesn't always mean an automatic signing honestly. Kay probably weighs the same options as Rosa, what benefits her the most, where would she be showcased the best, and of course the almighty dollar. In the end we'll see, but I will say, in a worst case scenario where Rosa and Kay are out there and neither go to AEW? That's gonna be the biggest wake up call if anything that they need to change shit with the division, because presentation is key and the last few months have lacked. They basically have to guarantee to give the girls more time and more of a push of they're signing ace talent, so I hope that's something they're factoring in and considering.
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Post by moxfan1 on Nov 3, 2020 9:26:33 GMT -5
They can have Rache Chanel. Alex Gracia it doesn't surprise me at all they want to sign her. She's got great look and gimmick. She's just not good enough in the ring for AEW to sign now. She's better off going to NXT and working at performance center for a few years. Allysin Kay is a must sign for AEW IMO. Hopefully AEW already talk to her in advance and has some deal in place. Kay has character and personality that a lot of the woman don't have right now in AEW. If you want them to get on tv more. You need to show that character and charisma. So if they aren't gonna sign Tessa you can't miss on Kay. Well they aren't the only ones who aren't gonna sign Tessa, there's a reason she's still sitting there Kay doesn't have a fingernails worth of the baggage Tessa does, so yeah, in terms of that comparison it'd be a no brainer for me. Kay's great and I would love to have her in the division. Surround her with some of the young girls like Kenzie Paige and Dani Jordan and make a mean girls stable. Yeah I don't blame them for not signing Tessa. But at this point with lack of top woman and leader for that division. Knowing that they can't give this division more then 7 or 8 minutes of time on Dynamite. Well when do they say let's give Tessa a chance we need to make this division better.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 9:31:48 GMT -5
Well they aren't the only ones who aren't gonna sign Tessa, there's a reason she's still sitting there Kay doesn't have a fingernails worth of the baggage Tessa does, so yeah, in terms of that comparison it'd be a no brainer for me. Kay's great and I would love to have her in the division. Surround her with some of the young girls like Kenzie Paige and Dani Jordan and make a mean girls stable. Yeah I don't blame them for not signing Tessa. But at this point with lack of top woman and leader for that division. Knowing that they can't give this division more then 7 or 8 minutes of time on Dynamite. Well when do they say let's give Tessa a chance we need to make this division better. The "lack of a top woman and direction for the division" is not the reason they won't sign Tessa.They need to stay far away from Tessa period, she's talented as hell but she has way too much baggage, none of which she herself seems eager to get rid of.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 3, 2020 9:50:39 GMT -5
Honestly, people keep saying they should sign this person or this person etc. but what they should do is get their shit straight first. Like as it stands right now they have the talent to make a solid division but don't do anything. I don't think signing more people will help that cause.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 3, 2020 10:46:40 GMT -5
Honestly, people keep saying they should sign this person or this person etc. but what they should do is get their shit straight first. Like as it stands right now they have the talent to make a solid division but don't do anything. I don't think signing more people will help that cause. Omega has a singles push to concentrate on, and he's mainly just familiar with the joshi, most of whom are locked out of the U.S. due to COVID travel restrictions, so someone else needs to take over booking the women now. AEW could use Kevin Harvey (RISE promoter), Allison Danger, or Dave Prazak as a consultant if they're available.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 11:04:59 GMT -5
Honestly, people keep saying they should sign this person or this person etc. but what they should do is get their shit straight first. Like as it stands right now they have the talent to make a solid division but don't do anything. I don't think signing more people will help that cause. Agreed As I said before, get another voice that isn't Omega or Brandi. Both may mean well but neither really knows how to book U.S. women's division. More talent will help but if you are only obligating 10 mins in your two hour main show weekly, they will never gain traction
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Post by Dub H on Nov 3, 2020 11:11:25 GMT -5
Honestly, people keep saying they should sign this person or this person etc. but what they should do is get their shit straight first. Like as it stands right now they have the talent to make a solid division but don't do anything. I don't think signing more people will help that cause. Agreed As I said before, get another voice that isn't Omega or Brandi. Both may mean well but neither really knows how to book U.S. women's division. More talent will help but if you are only obligating 10 mins in your two hour main show weekly, they will never gain traction Good thing neither are booker of the division and never were then. Brandie is women's talent relatiin ,she has some hiring power and overall biz like Heels. Omega is match producer and very likely got the jaoanese talent ,he never ever was booker of the division.I wish people would stop spreading that lie,knowing it is a lie or not.Literally ever since AEw Started I have to correct people on this.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 11:16:47 GMT -5
Agreed As I said before, get another voice that isn't Omega or Brandi. Both may mean well but neither really knows how to book U.S. women's division. More talent will help but if you are only obligating 10 mins in your two hour main show weekly, they will never gain traction Good thing neither are booker of the division and never were then. Brandie is women's talent relatiin ,she has some hiring power and overall biz like Heels. Omega is match producer and very likely got the jaoanese talent ,he never ever was booker of the division.I wish people would stop spreading that lie,knowing it is a lie or not.Literally ever since AEw Started I have to correct people on this. I never said they were booking I said neither knows how to and they need a new voice
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Post by Dub H on Nov 3, 2020 11:19:15 GMT -5
Good thing neither are booker of the division and never were then. Brandie is women's talent relatiin ,she has some hiring power and overall biz like Heels. Omega is match producer and very likely got the jaoanese talent ,he never ever was booker of the division.I wish people would stop spreading that lie,knowing it is a lie or not.Literally ever since AEw Started I have to correct people on this. I never said they were booking I said neither knows how to and they need a new voice If you dont think they are then why say they dont know how to book then?Unless I missed some giant conversation that they talk about it. Hoe do you knoe they are bad bookers if they never booked it? I guess you could bring the nightmare collective from Brandi.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 13:40:31 GMT -5
Honestly, people keep saying they should sign this person or this person etc. but what they should do is get their shit straight first. Like as it stands right now they have the talent to make a solid division but don't do anything. I don't think signing more people will help that cause. But... but... Allysin Kay just announced she was a free agent!
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 3, 2020 13:49:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I think they have a solid division as is, just need to give them more than 10 minutes total every wednesday and 2-3 squash matches on Dark. Maybe drop stupid stuff like Hardy/Sammy's race to see who can kill themselves faster feud and give the women a chance. Or maybe don't have FTR on the show once in awhile and let Shida take their time. If she can go almost a month with hardly a word, why can't they? Or the TNT champ? They were doing pretty decent for a bit with Swole/Baker and Shida's open challenge/Rosa feud. Hell, I know Anna Jay attacked Brandi on the YouTube show, but maybe more interactions between her and Tay? Or maybe Nyla leaving jobbers lying in a heap backstage like Archer and screaming about getting her title shot? Any all of these would go a long way in reviving interest in the division.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 3, 2020 13:53:36 GMT -5
I maintain that they could use to make a few hires, mostly because of how inflexible the women's roster is and how shallow their pool of babyfaces is. But it would be utterly foolish to sign anyone just because she's good or has some hype. Sign Allysin Kay, but only if there's something that she can do with Britt Baker or Penelope Ford, or because she'd be a good tag partner/stablemate for Nyla Rose. Sign Leyla Hirsch for a feud with Britt Baker, not just because she can keep producing bangers on Dark (although in her case, I wouldn't mind if they hired her just for the latter reason). Sign Elayna Black because she could be a decent mouthpiece for a snarling Abadon. Sign Nicole Savoy and the Sea Stars because Ivelisse and Diamante are hurting for actual rival teams right now and they would be marvelous on BTE.
Anyone they sign absolutely must actively add something to the division as it stands - tag partners, rivals, friends, mouthpieces, heaters. The division is already lousy with the issue of people waiting around for a feud to start, so any hiring has to be productive in that direction.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 16:59:53 GMT -5
I definitely agree they need to fix the kinks in the division. I don't want them signing talent just to not put them on TV, but at the very least when it comes to the likes of Thunder Rosa, Khan was clearly trying to actively put her on TV every week. He and whoever else is involved in the booking process just needs to have the same energy for more of the girls, and they also need to stop relegating the women to 9:20 and 9:20 only for matches. They truly can't be scared to put the women outside of it.
I guess we'll see in the end, but yeah. nobody wants to see them sign talent just to not use them, they want to see them sign talent to help boost the division and maybe get them out of these duldrums. But AEW has to actively want to get out of them too.
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Post by markymark on Nov 3, 2020 17:38:19 GMT -5
I definitely agree they need to fix the kinks in the division. I don't want them signing talent just to not put them on TV, but at the very least when it comes to the likes of Thunder Rosa, Khan was clearly trying to actively put her on TV every week. He and whoever else is involved in the booking process just needs to have the same energy for more of the girls, and they also need to stop relegating the women to 9:20 and 9:20 only for matches. They truly can't be scared to put the women outside of it. I guess we'll see in the end, but yeah. nobody wants to see them sign talent just to not use them, they want to see them sign talent to help boost the division and maybe get them out of these duldrums. But AEW has to actively want to get out of them too. Just noticed that TK has started following Allysin Kay like hour and a half ago, along with Red Velvet and Leyla(who is very close to signing a deal with AEW judging by todays PWI Elite)
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 3, 2020 17:52:23 GMT -5
Well they aren't the only ones who aren't gonna sign Tessa, there's a reason she's still sitting there Kay doesn't have a fingernails worth of the baggage Tessa does, so yeah, in terms of that comparison it'd be a no brainer for me. Kay's great and I would love to have her in the division. Surround her with some of the young girls like Kenzie Paige and Dani Jordan and make a mean girls stable. Yeah I don't blame them for not signing Tessa. But at this point with lack of top woman and leader for that division. Knowing that they can't give this division more then 7 or 8 minutes of time on Dynamite. Well when do they say let's give Tessa a chance we need to make this division better. Signing Tessa after the things that have gone on with her would be an absolutely idiotic move. Even if you ignore how messed up the shit she did was, she was totally unapologetic for any of it. And if you ignore most of the messed up shit she did, she was world champion for a promotion and refused to show up to work. Not even to job, to cut promos from home.Agreed As I said before, get another voice that isn't Omega or Brandi. Both may mean well but neither really knows how to book U.S. women's division. More talent will help but if you are only obligating 10 mins in your two hour main show weekly, they will never gain traction Good thing neither are booker of the division and never were then. Brandie is women's talent relatiin ,she has some hiring power and overall biz like Heels. Omega is match producer and very likely got the jaoanese talent ,he never ever was booker of the division.I wish people would stop spreading that lie,knowing it is a lie or not.Literally ever since AEw Started I have to correct people on this. Okay, so who is? Also, that's neither here nor there, because the booking sucks. All of our criticism is of the booking. Whoever is booking it is asleep at the wheel, and needs to do better.
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