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Post by Celgress on Oct 29, 2020 17:55:35 GMT -5
This is sad but true considering what an immoral company WWE is: their handling of Covid-19 (including cutting people to make a greater profit), the infamous Saudi deal, Vince's checkered past, exact. If you go searching around for a successful company that doesn't have demons in the closet or some BS they pulled in the past or the owners or CEO having a checkered past, you'll die long before you actually find it. The past is bad enough, but the present of the E is no better. I've never been happier since I stopped supporting their product last year once the Saudi deal became a reality. I don't want this thread locked so I digress.
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Post by markymark on Nov 1, 2020 22:28:06 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views.
The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup .
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 1, 2020 22:40:35 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . Woof. Yeah that's...that's not good
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 2, 2020 0:13:18 GMT -5
As much as AEW has needed to do better with management of the time the girls get on Dynamite especially, I just feel for how bad their luck is with the division too.
Nyla ghosted almost her entire reign at the onset of COVID, which was a mutual decision at the time can't fault that. Then Baker being injured for months, Statlander out till probably next year, trying to use younger talent like Tay and Abadon and an injury happens (Thankfully not serious but enough to scrap the match), the weird Ivelisse/Rosa situation, the Joshi being region locked, and now Shanna teases a return and decides to be an idiot on social media
Yes, they can book it better and do better and they need to, but at the same time I look back at the women's divisions last few months and am just in awe of how horrible their luck has been currently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 9:44:46 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 2, 2020 10:26:29 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard.It sure would be.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 2, 2020 10:31:01 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. In this context, though it should apply to Jake and Jericho too, I gotta wonder if the fact that the Khans (or at least Tony's dad) are Muslim might come to play in this.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 2, 2020 10:32:43 GMT -5
The issue is, Shanna's comments had some seriously racist stuff to it. Unless Jericho and Hager have said some equally horrible shit...which wouldn't suprise me since they both seem like real pieces of shit irl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 10:37:56 GMT -5
The issue is, Shanna's comments had some seriously racist stuff to it. Unless Jericho and Hager have said some equally horrible shit...which wouldn't suprise me since they both seem like real pieces of shit irl Hager has said some things (that I can't get into here) but is mainly known for liking and retweeting some god-awful stuff on social media. Though I think somebody from AEW got in his ear pretty quickly about this, since it's been nothing but AEW and MMA on his Twitter for months. Go back though and you'll find some wretched shit. Jericho is in a similar boat, between podcast guests, certain political donations, and outing himself as an "all lives matter" dumbass this past summer. Nothing as blatant as Lesnar's "I don't like gays" comments from years ago but, like Hager, it's obvious which side he's on and what his beliefs are.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 2, 2020 17:03:46 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. Nothing should happen to Shanna, outside of AEW telling her to keep those kinds of things off her official social medias. Opinions are her own and all that but there's a very fine line between having bad opinions and "You saying this reflects bad on yourself and your employer" and she needs to be careful she doesn't do that. As has already been said about Jericho and Hager they've been much better since they signed to AEW when it comes to their own outspoken political stances, Shanna needs to do the same and focus on her work and possibly getting back to AEW.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 2, 2020 17:42:51 GMT -5
I finally got to see the Deeb/Hirsch match. Best women's match on Dynamite in a long time, it actually got me pretty hyped. I hope they sign Hirsch, she's so f***ing good, and Serena looked the best I've ever seen her.
Nothing for the women announced for Dynamite this week, that I'm aware of?
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Post by Celgress on Nov 2, 2020 17:45:09 GMT -5
I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. Nothing should happen to Shanna, outside of AEW telling her to keep those kinds of things off her official social medias. Opinions are her own and all that but there's a very fine line between having bad opinions and "You saying this reflects bad on yourself and your employer" and she needs to be careful she doesn't do that. As has already been said about Jericho and Hager they've been much better since they signed to AEW when it comes to their own outspoken political stances, Shanna needs to do the same and focus on her work and possibly getting back to AEW. Co-signed for truth.
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Post by Shark on Nov 3, 2020 0:09:33 GMT -5
And now Shanna gets called out on twitter for her political views. The division feels cursed, because now AEW will be forced to postpone her return and hoping fans forget her screwup . I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. I honestly find it troubling that people are just happy with Jericho after so many called him out for how he acted/reacted regarding the whole Sturgis rally incident and things he's said. Now in all honesty, Shanna's tweets are much more racially insensitive and thus more troubling. I also think how fans feel about things like this are proportional to how much the wrestler involved is liked by fans. Jericho is still largely liked by fans so his shitty behavior is more quickly forgiven and forgotten. Ryker says something very racially insensitive and he gets removed from TV and costs himself and his stablemates a push and barely anyone cares because fans don't like him. Lars says stupid crap any time he opens his mouth and because fans don't like him, they call for his head. Shanna's not on TV anyway so if she's suspended, it's not like we'll notice. She very likely is going to be talked to about what she puts out on social media though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 3, 2020 0:18:27 GMT -5
I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. I honestly find it troubling that people are just happy with Jericho after so many called him out for how he acted/reacted regarding the whole Sturgis rally incident and things he's said. Now in all honesty, Shanna's tweets are much more racially insensitive and thus more troubling. I also think how fans feel about things like this are proportional to how much the wrestler involved is liked by fans. Jericho is still largely liked by fans so his shitty behavior is more quickly forgiven and forgotten. Ryker says something very racially insensitive and he gets removed from TV and costs himself and his stablemates a push and barely anyone cares because fans don't like him. Lars says stupid crap any time he opens his mouth and because fans don't like him, they call for his head. Shanna's not on TV anyway so if she's suspended, it's not like we'll notice. She very likely is going to be talked to about what she puts out on social media though. I will say you notice that Jericho hasn't done any more concerts or touring since then though. Pretty sure that entire ordeal at the very least made him realize how bad the PR look was because even diehards of him had a problem with it. Jericho's biggest crime is that he's an idiot that is very bullheaded in what he does, which gives him a leg up in these situations because he doesn't seem like he's actually trying to hurt anyone, he's just very ignorant. This is why Shanna needs to watch what she says more than anything, it's one thing to have political stances, it's another to say questionable shit that could be insulting people and even cultures directly. That's when AEW, and really any employer you would hope, is gonna step in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 0:56:47 GMT -5
I say this as somebody who finds her politics abhorrent, but if having awful political views didn't harm Jericho or Hager's standing then the same should be true for Shanna. Suspending her or something while keeping those two prominently featured would be a pretty blatant double standard. I honestly find it troubling that people are just happy with Jericho after so many called him out for how he acted/reacted regarding the whole Sturgis rally incident and things he's said. Now in all honesty, Shanna's tweets are much more racially insensitive and thus more troubling. I also think how fans feel about things like this are proportional to how much the wrestler involved is liked by fans. Jericho is still largely liked by fans so his shitty behavior is more quickly forgiven and forgotten. Ryker says something very racially insensitive and he gets removed from TV and costs himself and his stablemates a push and barely anyone cares because fans don't like him. Lars says stupid crap any time he opens his mouth and because fans don't like him, they call for his head. Shanna's not on TV anyway so if she's suspended, it's not like we'll notice. She very likely is going to be talked to about what she puts out on social media though. The difference is I can separate Jericho the wrestler and Jericho the idiot. One entertains me the other one I try to forget about. Ryker’s whole gimmick is wrapped up in political themes. So it’s hard to differential the two. Where the gimmick ends and where the performer begins. Probably why I can’t stand the Briscoes for all their stupid comments over the years. Lars is the same way.
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Post by markymark on Nov 3, 2020 7:10:17 GMT -5
So Rache Chanel and Alex Gracia were at WWE tryouts, well they can have Rache, she fits better in that system than AEW. Allysin Kay is now a free agent so I think AEW should bring her as the veteran of the division imo
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 3, 2020 7:27:06 GMT -5
With Allysin, AEW has a third chance at getting a major veteran in the US scene. They missed Mercedes, no idea what is going on with Rosa, but Allysin is pretty good in the ring, better on the mic than both, and also has the MMA experience.
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Post by markymark on Nov 3, 2020 7:32:57 GMT -5
With Allysin, AEW has a second chance at getting a third chance at getting a major veteran in the US scene. They missed Mercedes, no idea what is going on with Rosa, but Allysin is pretty good in the ring, better on the mic than both, and also has the MMA experience. Rosa wants to focus on her MMA career in the meanwhile iirc.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 8:21:15 GMT -5
I honestly find it troubling that people are just happy with Jericho after so many called him out for how he acted/reacted regarding the whole Sturgis rally incident and things he's said. Now in all honesty, Shanna's tweets are much more racially insensitive and thus more troubling. I also think how fans feel about things like this are proportional to how much the wrestler involved is liked by fans. Jericho is still largely liked by fans so his shitty behavior is more quickly forgiven and forgotten. Ryker says something very racially insensitive and he gets removed from TV and costs himself and his stablemates a push and barely anyone cares because fans don't like him. Lars says stupid crap any time he opens his mouth and because fans don't like him, they call for his head. Shanna's not on TV anyway so if she's suspended, it's not like we'll notice. She very likely is going to be talked to about what she puts out on social media though. I will say you notice that Jericho hasn't done any more concerts or touring since then though. Pretty sure that entire ordeal at the very least made him realize how bad the PR look was because even diehards of him had a problem with it. Jericho's biggest crime is that he's an idiot that is very bullheaded in what he does, which gives him a leg up in these situations because he doesn't seem like he's actually trying to hurt anyone, he's just very ignorant. This is why Shanna needs to watch what she says more than anything, it's one thing to have political stances, it's another to say questionable shit that could be insulting people and even cultures directly. That's when AEW, and really any employer you would hope, is gonna step in. I doubt it but I won't say much and leave it at this Chris Jericho the wrestler is a one of the GOATS but Chris Irvine the man is a f***ing idiot. He's gotten away with a lot that people let slide
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 8:47:35 GMT -5
With Allysin, AEW has a second chance at getting a third chance at getting a major veteran in the US scene. They missed Mercedes, no idea what is going on with Rosa, but Allysin is pretty good in the ring, better on the mic than both, and also has the MMA experience. I wouldn’t say they missed Mercedes as much as Mercedes only ever saw AEW as a bargaining chip. She was always one of those “WWE is my dream” types (and given the stellar response both Retribution and The Robert Stone Brand have gotten, I’d say her gamble paid off).
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