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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 0:08:00 GMT -5
I hope they arent crazy enough in doing a Vickie vs Brandi feud, no one will care for it tbh This is the same company that has given all of their promo time to one person in the entire division week after week. So, it's a safe bet it's gonna happen. I mean... I may be wrong, but this company sure doesn't like to raise expectations with the women.
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Post by Shark on Nov 5, 2020 0:08:59 GMT -5
How sad is it I'm now more excited for the women's match on the Buy In than I am for the one on the main card...both hastily thrown together with no build, but it's amazing what established star power, and a history of work to be a fan of will do for people. It has the aspect of a big debut in Kay so of course it's gonna draw a lot of eyes and excitement to it too in that aspect. Nyla/Shida at the very least had some build tonight. Hopefully after the PPV the women's division gets a soft reboot for booking Feels like that's been getting said a lot about the division.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 5, 2020 0:14:45 GMT -5
It has the aspect of a big debut in Kay so of course it's gonna draw a lot of eyes and excitement to it too in that aspect. Nyla/Shida at the very least had some build tonight. Hopefully after the PPV the women's division gets a soft reboot for booking Feels like that's been getting said a lot about the division. The can has been kicked down the road so much it doesn’t even resemble a can anymore.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 5, 2020 1:13:31 GMT -5
Feels like that's been getting said a lot about the division. The can has been kicked down the road so much it doesn’t even resemble a can anymore. At this point AEW has listened to criticism on almost every aspect and looked to improve it Lack of Hosses? Hosses signed, Hosses pushed Lack of Black Talent? Signings of the likes of Will Hobbs, Caster and Bowens, and Red Velvet Injury Concerns? Independant Neurologist and more Doctors present, better two way ref communication, having Chris Norwinski come in Gimmicks don't work? Retool them or outright scrap the and do something else with the wrestlers The one huge outlier in AEW has been people saying "FIX THE WOMEN'S DIVISION" but it stays in its rut. I hope that it can be fixed. If AEW heard those complaints above and made efforts to change them each time, there's no way they haven't heard and don't care about the women's division comments they get. They have a great show, I doubt what they want to hear every week is "It's a shame about the women's division". So I really hope that they're making an effort to try and change it, they have the talent, they could ultimately sign more, they just need more time. Really sucks we don't have that Third Hour show yet, DARK's been better structured for talent development lately, but if you keep pushing the rhetoric of "Women's match at 9:20ish" then it's never going to grow. Again I feel like we were gonna get that last week with Tay and Abadon because Hirsch/Deeb happened at the 9:20 spot, but a freak accident derailed that. The division's luck has also been terrible but that's a whole nother issue. I trust AEW to fix their shit because they've given me reason to believe they listen and they can. It just feels like when it comes to the women's division they're not entirely sure how, and if they're not, Khan needs to put someone in charge or get someone who can help with that aspect of the booking, because the men are being for the most part booked great, the girls really need to be focused behind the scenes. Dustin training the up and coming talent is great, Brandi trying to spotlight them is great, but there needs to be a push to shake Dynamite cards up, that's really gonna be the first step to progress. Here's hoping, I know a lot of people don't have faith and I get it, but there's no way AEW's content with it, it's just a matter of finding their groove that fixes it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 1:27:42 GMT -5
I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said already, but it's just straight up bizarre how poorly this division has been booked compared to just about everything else in the company. Sure, the pandemic and injuries hit hard but this doesn't feel like they're giving it their best with who they have available, it feels like a total afterthought, like every week someone goes, "Oh snap, we need a girl's match" right before the card is finalized. It feels like how the WWE books everything.
Like damn, at this point just pretend you're writing something for the guys but sub-in the boobie-havers.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 5, 2020 1:39:58 GMT -5
Personally I see a little advance every week,I just think it is way too slow.
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Post by markymark on Nov 5, 2020 9:07:01 GMT -5
I hope they arent crazy enough in doing a Vickie vs Brandi feud, no one will care for it tbh This is the same company that has given all of their promo time to one person in the entire division week after week. So, it's a safe bet it's gonna happen. I mean... I may be wrong, but this company sure doesn't like to raise expectations with the women. If Nyla beats Shida then a feud vs Brandi in a way(sadly) would make sense because Nyla wouldve beaten every face in the division.
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Post by markymark on Nov 5, 2020 13:31:59 GMT -5
Cody was clearly full of bs here.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 5, 2020 13:37:07 GMT -5
Cody was clearly full of bs here. I get the feeling that some people in AEW don't understand what the problem with the women's booking is, even if I do like most other parts of Dynamite.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 5, 2020 13:39:18 GMT -5
Ok they cleary have no intent of fixing the division then. f*** off with that bullshit, Cody
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Post by dpg on Nov 5, 2020 13:40:05 GMT -5
Cody was clearly full of bs here. So Cody is basically trying to justify how poorly AEWs womens division has been booked by... actually, I don't get what he's trying to say? I mean, I think he's saying that the audience don't get what the title match is about because its different, and not a lame storyline. But that would imply any attempt has been made to build this title match at all, outside isolated spots that aren't promoted.
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Post by dpg on Nov 5, 2020 13:41:20 GMT -5
Ok they cleary have no intent of fixing the division then. f*** off with that bullshit, Cody It appears to be Cody saying "the audience don't get it". Which implies there's something for them to get.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 5, 2020 13:44:16 GMT -5
Ok they cleary have no intent of fixing the division then. f*** off with that bullshit, Cody It appears to be Cody saying "the audience don't get it". Which implies there's something for them to get. True, there was no good reason to leave the AEW Women's Champion off Dynamite for two weeks in a row.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 5, 2020 13:45:31 GMT -5
Yeah, this and Kenny's "we're happy with the division we have" comments are just baffling. They are in the middle of epic angles that have made logical use of a rich roster, with defined personalities and heartfelt promos about the importance of their goals...and don't see the issue with a champion who barely shows up and a build where the challenger did a promo or two on Dark and the champion finally nonchalantly agreed to the obvious title match with no reason at all for the months-long delay.
Gaaahhhhh.
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Post by markymark on Nov 5, 2020 13:58:03 GMT -5
Wouldve agreed if only Shida Open Challenge wasnt completely lazy executed.
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Post by dpg on Nov 5, 2020 14:05:04 GMT -5
Wouldve agreed if only Shida Open Challenge wasnt completely lazy executed. So, what's the excuse for barely featuring the women?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 14:06:35 GMT -5
I still think they should have went with Baker vs. Shida. You pushed Baker all summer just for her to disapear? Yeah she lost to Swole, but really didnt need to be rebuilt, she was stabbed in the leg with novacaine. Not only makes her badass but protects her as well.
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Post by Shark on Nov 5, 2020 14:29:39 GMT -5
Cody was clearly full of bs here. I get the feeling that some people in AEW don't understand what the problem with the women's booking is, even if I do like most other parts of Dynamite. I'd agree with that because it's not like they haven't added new names and good names at that and filled out the division more. I get that they really want to make use of Joshi's, but I think making them a bedrock of a division is risky and we're seeing why that is right now. It's like going to the doctor because your back is hurt and instead of treating your back, they instead put some drops in your eyes to help you see better. It might help in some way, but it's not fixing the real issue. The NWA women's title has gotten more play on Dynamite than their own women's title or champion has the last few weeks. Cody is right in a way that not EVERY title feud has to have this insane backstory going into it, but it still needs SOMETHING. If Nyla at least was on the show every week and just squashes her opponents and calls out Shida for a match, Shida accepts and boom, you've got a simple feud that fans can get into because now it looks like Nyla's on a tear and can Shida overcome that? It's not War & Peace, but it's also more than what they've been given.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 5, 2020 14:32:30 GMT -5
Or hell - Shida saying that Nyla has had her shot and she doesn't want to reward Nyla for beating up defeated opponents by giving her the title match...escalating to Nyla saying that fine, she'll just keep doing that and won't stop until she gets her title match, all while Shida makes run-ins to defend various jobbers and the like. Vickie successfully leverages Nyla's #1 contendership to management to override Shida's moral stand.
Boom. Shida has a coherent motivation and a moral stand, Nyla is ruthless, each of them is leveraging the prestige of the title. It wouldn't have even taken up much more TV time than they've given this feud already.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 5, 2020 14:55:27 GMT -5
Yeah, this and Kenny's "we're happy with the division we have" comments are just baffling. They are in the middle of epic angles that have made logical use of a rich roster, with defined personalities and heartfelt promos about the importance of their goals...and don't see the issue with a champion who barely shows up and a build where the challenger did a promo or two on Dark and the champion finally nonchalantly agreed to the obvious title match with no reason at all for the months-long delay. Gaaahhhhh. I mean the division itself is full of really good talent. But when it coems to the build yeh,that is BS, which is weird because he clearly didnt mind calling their own shit when it came to running a sloppy shop to concussions. Just admit that the women werent being properly used.
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