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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 23, 2020 14:02:54 GMT -5
I absolutely hate this myth of the language barrier holding people back. That is only wwe bollocks. Shida is super over and Riho was prior to her, language be damned. It's so easy to have her do subtitled promos and vignettes. Shida is loaded with charisma, it wouldn't take much effort to feature her. What I'm wondering is if most of the women get to interact with Khan on pitching storylines often? Because it usually doesn't feel that way compared to how many angles the guys have.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 23, 2020 14:57:46 GMT -5
I absolutely hate this myth of the language barrier holding people back. That is only wwe bollocks. Shida is super over and Riho was prior to her, language be damned. It's so easy to have her do subtitled promos and vignettes. Shida is loaded with charisma, it wouldn't take much effort to feature her. That has not stopped Asuka nor Io from being super over and Kairi as well Io mixes Japanese and English in her promos but the visuals is what sells it. She is presented as a star, f*** whatever language she speaks. Asuka is just insane and all you need to know is no one is ready for Asuka. Nakamura can cut promos in English but he doesn't have to say anything to be over WWE doesn't even lean as hard into that language barrier holds you back BS anymore. It only hurts you if you don't exude outside the ring charisma like Andrade early on. AEW literally does sit down interviews and hype segments for big time promos. You have no excuse to not have a ton of footage of Shida talking in an interview in subtitles about her opponent while showing her training or doing something to show how she is a fighting champion
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Post by Cyno on Nov 23, 2020 15:07:17 GMT -5
Shida is over in a way where involved promos aren't even necessary for her. She speaks through her matches and her natural charisma. The language barrier is a poor excuse, especially when Shida is fine enough with conversational English. Worst case scenario: give her a manager. AEW's got no problems with using them for other talent, after all.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 23, 2020 15:28:17 GMT -5
Shida is over in a way where involved promos aren't even necessary for her. She speaks through her matches and her natural charisma. The language barrier is a poor excuse, especially when Shida is fine enough with conversational English. Worst case scenario: give her a manager. AEW's got no problems with using them for other talent, after all. Shida has a mean streak, focus on that Her character has another layer they can go to if they actually go about it correctly. She's not Ibushi crazy but we see how she knees the shit out of people until they stay down. It would not be surprising if she can pull off a mean death stare and have people shitting themselves like Ibushi does when he goes into killer mode
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 7:15:31 GMT -5
This was put in the social media thread like a week ago but it deserves to go here as well
Rosa's really getting involved with the women's division, indications might even be leaning towards her signing with AEW. If she gets even half these names time on AEW it only will help out the girls. There's just a lot of promising signs right now that I hope continue.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 24, 2020 9:15:30 GMT -5
Shida is over in a way where involved promos aren't even necessary for her. She speaks through her matches and her natural charisma. The language barrier is a poor excuse, especially when Shida is fine enough with conversational English. Worst case scenario: give her a manager. AEW's got no problems with using them for other talent, after all. It honestly annoys me when people make up excuses for her not being used. She hasn't been on a show since the ppv and now she is once again in another title match with like 30 seconds of build. They don't do this to any other champion. It's like every so often they go "Well we better use the champion next week cause people are starting to complain again" and then she'll disappear and return for a nothing feud stuck in the 7th quarter. Like promote her! Vignettes, quick promos etc. That doesn't take much time. Shit I mean would it even make a difference if they gave her a manager? It didn't do a thing for Nyla
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 9:42:56 GMT -5
Looks like AEW DARK's poster this week only features signed talent If that's the case, Rache Chanel might've signed officially with AEW since she's on there. She had a WWE tryout recently, must not have been scooped up by them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 9:50:45 GMT -5
Shida is over in a way where involved promos aren't even necessary for her. She speaks through her matches and her natural charisma. The language barrier is a poor excuse, especially when Shida is fine enough with conversational English. Worst case scenario: give her a manager. AEW's got no problems with using them for other talent, after all. It honestly annoys me when people make up excuses for her not being used. She hasn't been on a show since the ppv and now she is once again in another title match with like 30 seconds of build. They don't do this to any other champion. It's like every so often they go "Well we better use the champion next week cause people are starting to complain again" and then she'll disappear and return for a nothing feud stuck in the 7th quarter. Like promote her! Vignettes, quick promos etc. That doesn't take much time. Shit I mean would it even make a difference if they gave her a manager? It didn't do a thing for Nyla I truly think they just ran out of Gas with Shida after the first Nyla match because she beat everyone in the division, and AEW didn't show a ton of drive to sign women's talent and scout for greener pastures until the NWA Partnership seemed to be official No that's not an excuse, yes Shida should have been used and put on TV more to build her matches and feuds especially since up to that Nyla match she had been used plenty and frankly workhorsed the worst of the pandemic era shows in Georgia. I don't know if there were factors in the lack of her consistency after the fact, the humidity worked against her, lack of depth for the girls at the time, any nagging injuries they didn't want to reveal. Be that as it may yes, they should have found ways to use her on the show, and they should have worked better on the women's division before this thread got as big as it did In any case, at this point with Shida, she's gonna have to drop the belt soon and go away maybe till next year. If that's the case, it's a great reset for her, because the division needs her off the top of the ladder for a bit so new challengers and girls can get built up for her to feud with. I hope the endgame is a Title vs Title with Serena so they can focus on a big duel champ and develop the divisions and new and developing talent around her. There's plenty of promise there, and I'm hoping that's the plan. Shida's a pillar, she should be a pillar she's earned that right. She puts on clinics with everyone and frankly is the reason some girls get signed. It's definitely not been that she isn't amazing and they don't see value in her, it seems like a lack of direction. If she's taking a break, it would be a perfect time to reset that and go from there, like it seems they're trying to take the girls going forward, at least I hope.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 24, 2020 10:05:47 GMT -5
It honestly annoys me when people make up excuses for her not being used. She hasn't been on a show since the ppv and now she is once again in another title match with like 30 seconds of build. They don't do this to any other champion. It's like every so often they go "Well we better use the champion next week cause people are starting to complain again" and then she'll disappear and return for a nothing feud stuck in the 7th quarter. Like promote her! Vignettes, quick promos etc. That doesn't take much time. Shit I mean would it even make a difference if they gave her a manager? It didn't do a thing for Nyla In any case, at this point with Shida, she's gonna have to drop the belt soon and go away maybe till next year. When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to?
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Post by chrom on Nov 24, 2020 11:59:59 GMT -5
In any case, at this point with Shida, she's gonna have to drop the belt soon and go away maybe till next year. When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? There is Ivelisse as they haven't faced in singles before
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 24, 2020 12:06:01 GMT -5
When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? There is Ivelisse as they haven't faced in singles before
But Ivelisse hasn't been on tv in months. Yeah she is probably one of the most talented but again there is no build if Shida is leaving soon.
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Post by markymark on Nov 24, 2020 12:35:37 GMT -5
When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? There is Ivelisse as they haven't faced in singles before
But Ivelisse was struggling with her personal issues, recently is that Ivelisse finally felt like LU Ivelisse.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 15:34:33 GMT -5
In any case, at this point with Shida, she's gonna have to drop the belt soon and go away maybe till next year. When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? In December. I felt the best course of action would probably be to drop it to Serena and unify the belts for a short period, but we might know more about the direction this week. Essentially Winter is Coming is the big show, I would expect something there.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 24, 2020 17:20:57 GMT -5
When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? In December. I felt the best course of action would probably be to drop it to Serena and unify the belts for a short period, but we might know more about the direction this week. Essentially Winter is Coming is the big show, I would expect something there. I honestly don't think so since she is defending the belt this week and that show is next week.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 24, 2020 17:22:17 GMT -5
I think the biggest issue I have is just how inconsistent they are with how they book the women's division.
Like, I know all the major male storylines. Every time someone like Britt or Shida comes out I think "Oh yeah, I forgot about this angle."
They don't go out of their way to promote these stories like they do the Omega/Mox feud or whatever silly nonsense the Inner Circle is doing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 17:31:20 GMT -5
In December. I felt the best course of action would probably be to drop it to Serena and unify the belts for a short period, but we might know more about the direction this week. Essentially Winter is Coming is the big show, I would expect something there. I honestly don't think so since she is defending the belt this week and that show is next week. Could be after that show, they didn't specify when she is going to film in December But if she's gona over a month she can't keep the belt, she has to drop it to someone. I hope it isn't an Asuka situation where it's some sort of forced vacating of the belt, it's way too early in the belts life cycle to do that for a storyline reason. I guess we need to see what they're gonna do.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 24, 2020 17:43:00 GMT -5
I honestly don't think so since she is defending the belt this week and that show is next week. But if she's gona over a month she can't keep the belt I mean thinking about it, can't she? Not like they do much story with her anyway. They cleary care more for the nwa stuff anyway.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 17:50:01 GMT -5
But if she's gona over a month she can't keep the belt I mean thinking about it, can't she? Not like they do much story with her anyway. They cleary care more for the nwa stuff anyway. I'm gonna say there are some plausable options here 1. She doesn't drop the belt, but then the AEW Women's title is gone for over a month, I don't think that's a good idea. Yeah they're focused on the NWA Women's title, but the AEW Women's title is still THEIR title, I dont think they'd wanna do that. 2. Shida drops the belt before she leaves, maybe to Deeb in a Title for Title, maybe to someone else 3. Shida gets taken out, it's ruled a kayfabe injury, and she vacates the title. This leads to a Women's Tournament for the belt. This is probably the best option if she is forced to vacate it. You can then have several women on the show, develop both characters and storylines, get some girls some legit wins, and get a legit champion out of it, for when Shida comes back and gets probably first crack at them. Either way I don't see Shida just leaving or her movie shoot without some explanation, dropping the belt gives her merit to sort of re-access and rebuild herself, getting taken out is probably the best way if she doesn't drop it in a match, but I feel like she should drop the belt like Cody did, it's just a matter of who and when. Again it's all speculation, so we'll have to see. I get being pessimistic about it, but we might have an indication even this Wednesday about what might be next.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 24, 2020 18:14:08 GMT -5
When is she expected to leave? Who does she drop the belt to? Is there even time to build anyone at this stage? Giving the belt to Anna Jay at this point would be a big mistake, Thunder Rosa and Britt are currently tied up in a feud, Serena is already a champion, she just beat Nyla Rose and Penelope not long before that. Who could she drop feasibly drop it to? There is Ivelisse as they haven't faced in singles before
She also started no-selling the NWA champion on TV. Don't put the belt on her. Not yet.
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Post by chrom on Nov 24, 2020 18:19:34 GMT -5
There is Ivelisse as they haven't faced in singles before
She also started no-selling the NWA champion on TV. Don't put the belt on her. Not yet. Wasn't that whole incident overblown and a mountain made out of a molehill?
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