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Post by pippen94 on Aug 19, 2021 19:51:15 GMT -5
This an aew thread not a joshi one but by all means talk about what you want. Crowd dead during that match but ppl don't want yo hear it. Pertinent because some ppl proposing a shida - emi feud to heat things up. That's a backwards step for division where character is helping talent get over. I'll continue to point out stupidity of aew going back to that. It's a Women's Division Thread. Which features Joshi in it. I'm sorry if that hurts to hear but that's facts. Crowd wasn't dead for the match. I don't care how much you want to say it. They were literally behind Emi and live fans AT THE SHOW said the SAME THING. Are the fans at the show lying? Is it one giant Joshi Conspiracy theory just to piss you off? I highly doubt it. Saying the division is "Now about character develioment" when Emi has character and charisma in spades and always has is also ridiculous imo. Maki had character in spades. Yuka had character in spades. Riho is one of the most over women on the roster. The audience cares about Shida every time she shows up. Ryo Mizunami showed up and got the crowd into her Anaki act. You're blatantly just ignoring who these women are and what they do to paint them in this questionable light that they are all just bland workers who can't get over with the crowd when they HAVE. And nothing about Emi vs Shida would be stupid whatsoever. Every time they fight it's a banger match. Including when they did in AEW. As I said above. It's deeply unsettling how much you hate Joshi wrestlers yet put over every other woman. Like to the point you actively seem to be wishing you'd never have to hear or think about a Joshi wrestler in AEW again or go out of your way that every time they show up or f***ing breathe you have to say something negative about any of them. Forgive me if I find the optics of that incredibly awkward but hard to ignore. If I wanted to hear or see that I'd watch a certain guy in Louisville is all I'm saying. I have a right to express myself if it makes for tough reading too bad. Watching dark the match got little reaction from crowd, many of who weren't even watching. Trust my eyes & ears better than reports from biased fans. Women's division has come along way in short while, from being worst part of show to main eventing debut of rampage & doing top rating. Remind me of the ratings & angles company ran with shida?! Like it or not joshi is niche & aew done the right thing with direction division has taken. You can also get ur fill of that product elsewhere, but it's selfish to wish company goes back to such limited booking.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 19, 2021 19:58:41 GMT -5
Live reports said the crowd loved her. She got the whole arena to do the stomp clap as well. Was pretty obvious they liked her. Like dude we get it. You hate Joshi wrestlers and hear what you want to hear. It's kind of unsettling how much you DON'T like them and put over every Non-Asian woman that's talked about tbh. It's so tiring at this point to hear you say things that literally aren't even happening. I'd very much like to talk about Joshi in this thread without seeing you reply to every single comment or appearance about how much they "Suck" and "Aren't over". It's pages upon pages of it from you at this point ever since you joined the boards. Not saying you can't hate Joshi... but it's literally EVERY TIME. It's so tedious. This an aew thread not a joshi one Guys please don't talk about joshi who notoriously don't wrestle for AEW or have contracts with them. They are not in AEW. The things you see and hear are not at all true. "Trust my eyes & ears better than reports from biased fans" said with no bias, of course.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 19, 2021 20:00:10 GMT -5
Was Emi on Dark? Did I watch the wrong dark? I totally missed that
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 19, 2021 20:02:07 GMT -5
Was Emi on Dark? Did I watch the wrong dark? I totally missed that She was on the second Elevation that was put up tonight.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 20:02:17 GMT -5
Was Emi on Dark? Did I watch the wrong dark? I totally missed that There was a special Thursday Elevation tonight on the road to The First Dance
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 20:03:15 GMT -5
It's a Women's Division Thread. Which features Joshi in it. I'm sorry if that hurts to hear but that's facts. Crowd wasn't dead for the match. I don't care how much you want to say it. They were literally behind Emi and live fans AT THE SHOW said the SAME THING. Are the fans at the show lying? Is it one giant Joshi Conspiracy theory just to piss you off? I highly doubt it. Saying the division is "Now about character develioment" when Emi has character and charisma in spades and always has is also ridiculous imo. Maki had character in spades. Yuka had character in spades. Riho is one of the most over women on the roster. The audience cares about Shida every time she shows up. Ryo Mizunami showed up and got the crowd into her Anaki act. You're blatantly just ignoring who these women are and what they do to paint them in this questionable light that they are all just bland workers who can't get over with the crowd when they HAVE. And nothing about Emi vs Shida would be stupid whatsoever. Every time they fight it's a banger match. Including when they did in AEW. As I said above. It's deeply unsettling how much you hate Joshi wrestlers yet put over every other woman. Like to the point you actively seem to be wishing you'd never have to hear or think about a Joshi wrestler in AEW again or go out of your way that every time they show up or f***ing breathe you have to say something negative about any of them. Forgive me if I find the optics of that incredibly awkward but hard to ignore. If I wanted to hear or see that I'd watch a certain guy in Louisville is all I'm saying. I have a right to express myself if it makes for tough reading too bad. Watching dark the match got little reaction from crowd, many of who weren't even watching. Trust my eyes & ears better than reports from biased fans. Women's division has come along way in short while, from being worst part of show to main eventing debut of rampage & doing top rating. Remind me of the ratings & angles company ran with shida?! Like it or not joshi is niche & aew done the right thing with direction division has taken. You can also get ur fill of that product elsewhere, but it's selfish to wish company goes back to such limited booking.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 19, 2021 20:03:34 GMT -5
Ooooohhhh I forgot about that. Cool. Thanks
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Aug 19, 2021 20:07:05 GMT -5
Without bias for or against Emi Sakura, the crowd was far from dead. Maybe my eyes and ears are bad.
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Post by pippen94 on Aug 19, 2021 20:09:15 GMT -5
I have a right to express myself if it makes for tough reading too bad. Watching dark the match got little reaction from crowd, many of who weren't even watching. Trust my eyes & ears better than reports from biased fans. Women's division has come along way in short while, from being worst part of show to main eventing debut of rampage & doing top rating. Remind me of the ratings & angles company ran with shida?! Like it or not joshi is niche & aew done the right thing with direction division has taken. You can also get ur fill of that product elsewhere, but it's selfish to wish company goes back to such limited booking. Great mate - emi vs shida coming to dynamite main event soon
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 20:10:40 GMT -5
Great mate - emi vs shida coming to dynamite main event soon Never said it'd main event a Dynamite. Or a Rampage. I just said it'd be a good feud for them to have anywhere. The fact you got this riled up about the simple prospect of them having a feud proves my point and I've said all I need to say on the matter.
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Post by pippen94 on Aug 19, 2021 20:21:23 GMT -5
Great mate - emi vs shida coming to dynamite main event soon Never said it'd main event a Dynamite. Or a Rampage. I just said it'd be a good feud for them to have anywhere. The fact you got this riled up about the simple prospect of them having a feud proves my point and I've said all I need to say on the matter. You need to learn not everybody has predilection for joshi & knows wrestlers when they turn up. That's where promos & angles come in also
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 20:25:04 GMT -5
Never said it'd main event a Dynamite. Or a Rampage. I just said it'd be a good feud for them to have anywhere. The fact you got this riled up about the simple prospect of them having a feud proves my point and I've said all I need to say on the matter. You need to learn not everybody has predilection for joshi & knows wrestlers when they turn up. That's where promos & angles come in also I don't and never have. But literally you can say this about American wrestlers too. You introduce wrestlers through matches and getting them out there in front of crowds. With Lulu Pencil brought in who can speak very good english it seems like she is going to take on a translator role. Perhaps for Sakura or beyond it. She can work too which is a plus if need be But in terms of angles. Sakura trained Shida. Sakura attacked Shida during the women's Tourney and AEW loves calling back to things like that. It's built in if they want to do it... and Teacher vs Student is one of the easiest stories to sell in wrestling.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Aug 19, 2021 20:40:33 GMT -5
Interesting that promos and angles are the fault of joshi wrestlers singularly and not, say, the company who can do those things
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 21:00:33 GMT -5
Interesting that promos and angles are the fault of joshi wrestlers singularly and not, say, the company who can do those things It's again something I hope they start breaking with getting someone like Lulu Pencil in as a potential interpreter. At least then if you're afraid of subtitles you can have Lulu say everything just like Alex does for Penta. I know there's a fear of the "WHAT!?" chant for foreign wrestlers with accents... so hopefully this circumvents it and we get things going.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Aug 19, 2021 21:08:36 GMT -5
He literally rolls in whenever a Joshi wrestler is on anything AEW related and goes "WELL IT LOOKS LIKE JOSHI AREN'T ACTUALLY OVER"
You can set your f***ing watch to it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 21:13:36 GMT -5
He literally rolls in whenever a Joshi wrestler is on anything AEW related and goes "WELL IT LOOKS LIKE JOSHI AREN'T ACTUALLY OVER" You can set your f***ing watch to it. Can we choose to ignore it then, instead of catering it every time and hijacking the thread with the constant back and forth.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 19, 2021 21:17:48 GMT -5
Live reports said the crowd loved her. She got the whole arena to do the stomp clap as well. Was pretty obvious they liked her. Like dude we get it. You hate Joshi wrestlers and hear what you want to hear. It's kind of unsettling how much you DON'T like them and put over every Non-Asian woman that's talked about tbh. It's so tiring at this point to hear you say things that literally aren't even happening. I'd very much like to talk about Joshi in this thread without seeing you reply to every single comment or appearance about how much they "Suck" and "Aren't over". It's pages upon pages of it from you at this point ever since you joined the boards. Not saying you can't hate Joshi... but it's literally EVERY TIME. It's so tedious. While he's been wrong before, I'm sure that this KENEKI guy is right here...Emi's great.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 19, 2021 21:18:56 GMT -5
I'm reminded of the guy who constantly insisted that more strongly featuring women in WWE was the main reason ratings were declining, and cited as proof that his f***ing mom sometimes watches Raw with him and doesn't like when women wrestle each other. That's about where "No bro these Japanese women can't draw and the company's gotta get away from them" falls fort me when it's this beaten into the ground. AEW didn't 'move away' from featuring the joshi, they had literally one Japanese-born woman on American soil for the majority of a year due to a global crisis and travel shutdown, and one of the first things they did when the situation loosened up for them was run a tournament featuring a whole bunch of foreign women and fly in a few of them to come work matches. Travel's a bit more frequent now and oh look here's Emi Sakura back. Acting like it's somehow selfish and wanting the company to 'go back' to things that the booking never actually moved away from is laughable.
But also yeah the idea that Japanese women can't have angles and do promos is at best laughable and at worst kind of some "Vince Russo talks about Mexicans" shit.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 21:19:01 GMT -5
He literally rolls in whenever a Joshi wrestler is on anything AEW related and goes "WELL IT LOOKS LIKE JOSHI AREN'T ACTUALLY OVER" You can set your f***ing watch to it. For someone who says Joshi aren't over and hates them as much as he seems to... he sure talks the quickest about them Ironically it's quite Tsundere
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 19, 2021 21:22:31 GMT -5
He literally rolls in whenever a Joshi wrestler is on anything AEW related and goes "WELL IT LOOKS LIKE JOSHI AREN'T ACTUALLY OVER" You can set your f***ing watch to it. Can we choose to ignore it then, instead of catering it every time and hijacking the thread with the constant back and forth. It'd also be nice if they could take the hint and not talk about them every single time to try and bait reaction but I guess that's not gonna happen. It's just tedious that any time a Joshi is mentioned here it has to be turned into this same runaround back and forth. Whether it's about a Joshi that could come in or Joshi who are already here doing their thing. It's obsessive how much they seem to put over other wrestlers in the division while also trying to take digs at Joshi. Like trying to will all the other girls to get over so he never has to see Joshi again... and the reason people conflict with him about it including me is that is a TERRIBLE look... it's drifting into uncomfortable lanes that aren't about wrestling anymore. As I said if I wanted that I'd listen to a certain dude from Louisville... and this is why I don't lol.
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