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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 18, 2020 17:23:17 GMT -5
Whatever sport. My go to example to explain what I mean is Grant Hill.
He was pegged to be a huge star and make the Pistons a better team. Injuries happen and he’s not a megastar.
He was drafted 3rd in 1994. He ended up being a 7 Time all star even as late as 2005. He played 19 seasons. Never a huge game breaker but he has a good career even though people might think of him as a bit of a flop.
Maybe bust is too strong of a word but hopefully you get my point. Who else has a similar rep? In whatever sport you wanna talk about.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2020 17:35:53 GMT -5
Grant Hill isn't a bust tho as you said that's too strong a word. Imo you can't be a bust if injuries zap your career. Grant was supposed to be a superstar but ended up being an all star with unreached potential
Andrew Bogut I think fits the description. He never became that cornerstone player he needed to be when drafted number 1 by the Bucks but he ended up with a productive career as a role player and ended up with a ring and key piece for the Warriors
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Post by BRV on Aug 18, 2020 17:36:01 GMT -5
Kind of obscure, but 2004 NFL Draft pick Robert Gallery.
Coming out of Iowa, Gallery was feted with praise, particularly in one Sports Illustrated article, wherein Peter King called him "the best lineman to come out of college in years" and "the best all-around tackle to enter the pros since the Jacksonville Jaguars took Tony Boselli with the second pick in 1995." One NFL offensive line coach quoted in the article said "Whoever drafts him is going to get a 15-year Pro Bowl player. I can't find anything wrong with him."
Gallery was selected second overall in 2004 by the Raiders, but floundered as a tackle on both the right and left sides. But when he moved inside to guard after the 2006 season, he began to produce at a high level and ended up starting 103 of his 104 career NFL games.
He's regarded as a bust because he flopped as a tackle and never lived up to his pre-draft hype or his billing as second-overall pick, but he turned out to be a reliable, every-Sunday starter as an interior lineman.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 18, 2020 19:20:44 GMT -5
Alex Smith? Started his career extremely rough on some of the worst football teams ever (man oh man the Niners have fielded some crap teams between their two 2000’s Super Bowl appearances) eventually became a very good game manager and excellent bridge-man to higher-upside QBs.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 18, 2020 19:39:48 GMT -5
Alex Smith? Started his career extremely rough on some of the worst football teams ever (man oh man the Niners have fielded some crap teams between their two 2000’s Super Bowl appearances) eventually became a very good game manager and excellent bridge-man to higher-upside QBs. He had some good years so he's definitely not a bust, but for the first 6 years of his career, he was looking every bit like one of the biggest #1 pick busts of all time. |
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 18, 2020 20:04:23 GMT -5
Dwight Howard.
Could've been Shaq like. And that meant multiple titles. His prime, he was a wrecking machine. But he just didn't have that killer instinct and just coasted on his talents.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Aug 18, 2020 20:14:06 GMT -5
Dwight Howard. Could've been Shaq like. And that meant multiple titles. His prime, he was a wrecking machine. But he just didn't have that killer instinct and just coasted on his talents. Dude is a 1st ballot Hall Of Famer, was DPOY multitle times,made 6 all nba teams and took a team with no other all stars to the NBA Finals. He underachieved but he is in no way a bust |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2020 21:04:37 GMT -5
Dwight Howard. Could've been Shaq like. And that meant multiple titles. His prime, he was a wrecking machine. But he just didn't have that killer instinct and just coasted on his talents. Nowhere near a bust tho He never developed an unstoppable offensive game but if anyone says he is a bust they are high. He had very high standards in that he was supposed to be in being compared to arguably the most dominant Center and player of all time but he is still one of the top Centers to ever play the game |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2020 21:09:41 GMT -5
Dwight Howard. Could've been Shaq like. And that meant multiple titles. His prime, he was a wrecking machine. But he just didn't have that killer instinct and just coasted on his talents. Dude is a 1st ballot Hall Of Famer, was DPOY multitle times,made 6 all nba teams and took a team with no other all stars to the NBA Finals. He underachieved but he is in no way a bust Yea, saying he wasn't Shaq is like saying LeBron isn't Jordan. You're comparing them to the top players every but LeBron without question is among the top players ever and Howard is one of the top Centers the game has had Two diff but dominant players. LeBron obviously has 3 rings to his name while Howard underachieved in his prime but that doesn't make him a bust The knock against Howard will be his ego and how his prime didn't stretch as long due to that. Howard thought he could be Shaq which was the problem which is why he left Orlando, Houston and L.A. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 18, 2020 21:39:34 GMT -5
Ted Ginn Jr. Nowhere near worth the number 9 pick in the NFL draft and never developed into a number 1 WR (random 10 TD year in Carolina aside) but still in the NFL and has been a very consistent return man and 3rd/4th WR.
Would Tyson Chandler count? Not more than a hustle big man for Chicago but once traded away developed into a great defender... or was this a case of just getting away from unrealistic pressure due to the trade Chicago made to get him and not being expected to be a star?
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 18, 2020 22:09:43 GMT -5
Hopefully Marvin Bagley in a few seasons.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 18, 2020 22:13:47 GMT -5
Ted Ginn Jr. Nowhere near worth the number 9 pick in the NFL draft and never developed into a number 1 WR (random 10 TD year in Carolina aside) but still in the NFL and has been a very consistent return man and 3rd/4th WR. Would Tyson Chandler count? Not more than a hustle big man for Chicago but once traded away developed into a great defender... or was this a case of just getting away from unrealistic pressure due to the trade Chicago made to get him and not being expected to be a star? Tyson was never really a bust They did bad by drafting him and Curry which f***ed both them over but Tyson was drafted on his defense and people though he can be a KG type if he got an offensive game He never reached that offensively but without question on defense and reached his potential once he got to New Orleans |
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Post by unc40 on Aug 18, 2020 22:32:39 GMT -5
Christian Laettner was a huge star in college and a high draft pick but never lived up to those high expectations in the NBA. He did have a nice career in the NBA and was even an All-Star one year.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 19, 2020 0:31:42 GMT -5
As a Cincinnati kid...I’ll just throw Akili Smith in. There are 100 to pick from
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 19, 2020 0:46:20 GMT -5
Ken O'Brien is constantly brought up as a bust, but he wasn't a bust, he was a solid QB for years. The problem for him was that he was drafted ahead of Dan Marino. O'Brien's brought up as the huge mistake of that Draft, while people ignore an actual bust in Todd Blackledge. Blackledge was the 2nd QB taken that year, ahead of Kelly, O'Brien, and Marino.
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Post by grungesmurf on Aug 19, 2020 10:52:11 GMT -5
Whatever sport. My go to example to explain what I mean is Grant Hill. He was pegged to be a huge star and make the Pistons a better team. Injuries happen and he’s not a megastar. He was drafted 3rd in 1994. He ended up being a 7 Time all star even as late as 2005. He played 19 seasons. Never a huge game breaker but he has a good career even though people might think of him as a bit of a flop. Maybe bust is too strong of a word but hopefully you get my point. Who else has a similar rep? In whatever sport you wanna talk about. Dude married Tamia could never be a bust. Yes I’m aware that has nothing to do with his career. |
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Post by BRV on Aug 19, 2020 20:14:58 GMT -5
Reggie Bush seems like he'd fit the bill. By no means is he a bust, but look back on what was being said and written about him prior to the 2006 NFL Draft, people thought he was going to reinvent the running back position in the NFL.
Bush was a freshman All-American in 2003, a consensus All-American in 2004 and 2005, won the Heisman Trophy in 2005, and was widely regarded as the consensus first overall pick in 2006. Fans and analysts were left baffled when Houston selected Mario Williams ahead of him and people thought the Saints had landed the Michael Jordan to the Texans' Sam Bowie when they snagged Bush with the second pick.
Bush never met the expectations placed on him, but he's not a bust. He's merely been a pretty good NFL player. He bounced around five teams in his 11-year career, crossing 1,000 yards rushing only twice, but he was a reliable 4.3 YPC runner and he caught 40 or more passes seven out of 11 seasons. Not a Hall of Famer, not about to have his jersey retired, but a decent career.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 19, 2020 20:23:24 GMT -5
Reggie Bush seems like he'd fit the bill. By no means is he a bust, but look back on what was being said and written about him prior to the 2006 NFL Draft, people thought he was going to reinvent the running back position in the NFL. Bush was a freshman All-American in 2003, a consensus All-American in 2004 and 2005, won the Heisman Trophy in 2005, and was widely regarded as the consensus first overall pick in 2006. Fans and analysts were left baffled when Houston selected Mario Williams ahead of him and people thought the Saints had landed the Michael Jordan to the Texans' Sam Bowie when they snagged Bush with the second pick. Bush never met the expectations placed on him, but he's not a bust. He's merely been a pretty good NFL player. He bounced around five teams in his 11-year career, crossing 1,000 yards rushing only twice, but he was a reliable 4.3 YPC runner and he caught 40 or more passes seven out of 11 seasons. Not a Hall of Famer, not about to have his jersey retired, but a decent career. Yea, I wouldn't say Reggie is a bust He was supposed to be a HOF talent with the way his game tape was and while he never hit that height he still put up a very productive career. He didn't live up to the hype so a casual fan may think of him as a bust but 11 years in the league is not easy |
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Post by XIII on Aug 19, 2020 20:26:51 GMT -5
Definitely not a bust in the traditional sense, which I guess is kind of the point here, but maybe Lamar Odom. Drafted fourth overall and was a key cog in a lot of good teams, ended up averaging 13 PPG or so and played a long time but probably not the production that teams hope for out of a top 5 pick. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 19, 2020 20:42:18 GMT -5
Alexandre Daigle had a pretty decent career.
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