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Post by THE FVNKER on Sept 23, 2021 18:01:57 GMT -5
All of this blowback from the PRFH episode makes me wonder.. I'm sure they've already filmed all the episodes for this season, but does anyone else think they may have really narrowed the list of people who might be willing to go on the show now?
I'm sure most are down for a pay-day.. but now there's two other clouds overhead in; sounding like a rat, and possibly coming across as tone-deaf to certain situations (ie Dreamer) and alienating yourself that way.
Knowing that the creators are such huge fans of wrestling, I wonder if they are like "oh shit.." at the reaction to all this. I'm sure they are glad to provide a platform for people to tell their side of the story but I bet after the PRFH deal there are tons of guys who won't touch an appearance on there with a ten foot pole.
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Post by chrom on Sept 23, 2021 18:03:51 GMT -5
Cool to see Jim Mitchell in this one. Makes sense given how he was his manager as Mortis
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 23, 2021 18:31:05 GMT -5
I cannot find the Undertaker / Kanyon chairshot - is it online?
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Post by Big BosskMan on Sept 23, 2021 18:33:31 GMT -5
I cannot find the Undertaker / Kanyon chairshot - is it online? I think it's back a few pages in thread.
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 23, 2021 19:25:57 GMT -5
Ric: “I can’t even” Capitalising The First Letter Of Each Word Really Shouldn't Be The First Thing I Noticed Who knew Tony Ferguson was Ric’s ghost tweeter.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Sept 23, 2021 19:37:04 GMT -5
Episode is up now on Crave in Canada.
After that stupid "who's on top" crap from his promo last week, I really wish Jericho wasn't on this. Just make him feel disingenuous.
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Post by Fade on Sept 23, 2021 20:06:53 GMT -5
How did I never know this Moolah stuff?? Haha that’s crazy.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Sept 23, 2021 20:09:58 GMT -5
Yeah, this is a rough one. Pretty much gets to a lot of stuff you knew, and a hell of a lot of stuff nobody knew.
Cena, Taker and Flair all look bad on this, but mostly Taker.
Although their timeline on things is all over the place, mostly from Rafael.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 20:53:30 GMT -5
They basically glossed over Taker as I figured. Cena looks bad because he's a company man to a fault.
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Post by Fade on Sept 23, 2021 21:02:57 GMT -5
Heartbreaker of an episode. End nails it that he’d be absolutely celebrated now and probably respected, employed etc. maybe even in a better place to treat his mental issues. RIP Kanyon. I absolutely bought Kanyon 100% anytime I saw him on WCW or WWE. It’s a major bummer, man.
I did absolutely love Cages reaction to Cenas comments on Kanyon. I’ve never flip-flopped on liking and disliking a wrestler as much as Cage lol
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 23, 2021 21:06:58 GMT -5
Brian Cage, DDP, and James Mitchell came across really well here.
Flair and Cena did not. Although Cena seemed more like just being a WWE corporate shill more than anything.
It made you feel incredibly sad about what Kanyon went through.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 21:08:59 GMT -5
Cena literally regurgitated Vince shit, the guy was a company puppet forever.
They also went super nice on Taker, it'd gonna be a long time till anyone is willing to honestly talk about him.
Dark Side was also super nice with moolah for some reason.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 23, 2021 21:09:40 GMT -5
If it's any consolation, Cena's probably been one of the better straight allies for LGBTQ+ wrestlers in WWE in the last decade or so. Like when Darren Young came out, he was really encouraging and supportive of him. Hell, his own brother is gay.
Not that it excuses the comments he made about Kanyon, but at least he's grown since.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 23, 2021 21:12:33 GMT -5
Boy the last two weeks have been f***ing abysmal for Ric Flair lmfao.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 21:14:26 GMT -5
I don't think Cena believes half the shit he says. He'd say he drinks urine and likes balls in his face if Vince told him to.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 23, 2021 21:15:38 GMT -5
I knew this one was going to be tough for me to watch, I tried, but I just can't.
I'll try again tomorrow.
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Post by Fade on Sept 23, 2021 21:22:21 GMT -5
Cena literally regurgitated Vince shit, the guy was a company puppet forever. They also went super nice on Taker, it'd gonna be a long time till anyone is willing to honestly talk about him.Dark Side was also super nice with moolah for some reason. Hadn’t even thought that a reason why it may have been glossed over is the reluctance of guys wanting to put him on blast. Even Matt, who I absolutely love but have to call cap as the kids say, played it off as if it was a vague memory “oh, yea, it was like a chairshot right?” Pfffffft you know damn well people had to have known and talked about that chair shot. But yeah, I think you’re right. But one day, and I say this as a taker fan, people are going to look back on him negatively. At least the backstage aspect of him. Wrestlers court, all that jazz.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 21:24:34 GMT -5
Cena literally regurgitated Vince shit, the guy was a company puppet forever. They also went super nice on Taker, it'd gonna be a long time till anyone is willing to honestly talk about him.Dark Side was also super nice with moolah for some reason. Hadn’t even thought that a reason why it may have been glossed over is the reluctance of guys wanting to put him on blast. Even Matt, who I absolutely love but have to call cap as the kids say, played it off as if it was a vague memory “oh, yea, it was like a chairshot right?” Pfffffft you know damn well people had to have known and talked about that chair shot. But yeah, I think you’re right. But one day, and I say this as a taker fan, people are going to look back on him negatively. At least the backstage aspect of him. Wrestlers court, all that jazz. I said something about him somewhere else and got lambasted..he's built up this shit that he did no wrong and can not be questioned. It also doesn't hurt that the WWE literally would fire guys if he said so.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 23, 2021 21:31:44 GMT -5
A lot of fans and even people in the industry who you'd expect to know better seem to have a really hard time separating the mystique of the Undertaker from Mark Calaway. The Undertaker may be one of the most iconic characters in pro wrestling history, but Mark Calaway? He's a piece of shit.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Sept 23, 2021 21:39:27 GMT -5
"We should probably go a bit harder on Taker."
"Are you crazy, do you realize how many bridges we are going to burn just with Plane Ride from Hell?!"
I like to think that was the conversation that went down.
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