tenshi
Patti Mayonnaise
Probably more memorable than a Charlotte title reign
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Post by tenshi on Nov 11, 2020 21:19:43 GMT -5
You’d think Harden might look in a mirror one day and say “Maybe it’s me?” Then you snap back to reality and realize he’s thinking “I’ll now average 45 and have a better chance at an MVP!” If he looked at himself in a mirror, the reflection would be called for a Flagrant 1 and Harden would shoot free throws AND have possession as the commentators go nuts over how smart and clever he is as a scorer.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 11, 2020 22:25:03 GMT -5
Westbrook might have the worst contract in the NBA,luckily for Houston no contract can ever be too bad for Knicks or Kings management.They may get saved Luckily the Kings new front office was the second in command to Morey in Houston. Lmao
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 11, 2020 22:25:37 GMT -5
Can't wait to see Harden flop his way to an 8 seed and get swept next year in Round 1 But how many points did he average?
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Clutchhausen
Don Corleone
Darby deserves better.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Nov 11, 2020 22:30:08 GMT -5
Good!!! Russ was garbage last season. Not one game he had stands out to me. Couldn't shoot. Couldn't hit free throws. Bricked every midrange shot.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 12, 2020 2:15:27 GMT -5
Lol, mf what "direction"? They ain't got any. It's over, James. Your window is closed. Grand opening, grand closing. Hawks would be badass with Jrue, Capela, Collins, and Trae. A legit top 5 team out East. Lmao why you do the Rockets like that. You know Russ feeds on being the underdog Yeah, Hawks is on the rise. And they still got young talent they can deal and make moves. Rockets gave them Capela for nothing and it looks like they are about to get Jrue for a high pick in a weak draft On the flip side, NO continues to stockpile picks and young talent and can make moves themselves but Griffin isn't trying to go too early while Lakers and Clippers are dominant. NO doesn't really even have to make the playoffs this season. Last season was the first with Zion and the LA crew. Hayes is still coming along. They have the Lakers unprotected pick in 2022 most likely. Another lottery pick would help them quite a bit, as well as the return for Jrue. Load up on SG/SF types and just grow from there. Hawks are the same as the Pels. Loads of talent but can't play D to save their lives. Might not have to in order to make the playoffs out East tho. The Rockets are cooked regardless of what they do. Russ sees the writing on the wall, but can't do shit because he's one of the worst contracts this side of John Wall. Rockets don't have any takers on Westbrook, and even if they did don't have the pieces to offer to move him anyway. Unless teams are willing to accept just their '22 and '23 picks, they're checkmated.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2020 6:07:52 GMT -5
Knicks rubbing their hands together like Birdman, they about to offer Frank, Knox and a 2nd round pick and say take it or leave it
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Post by sfvega on Nov 12, 2020 6:49:04 GMT -5
Knicks rubbing their hands together like Birdman, they about to offer Frank, Knox and a 2nd round pick and say take it or leave it Rockets got no leverage. Russ doesn't understand that no team better than the Rockets wants him. Unless Milwaukee goes full-Cleveland in LeBron's first run. If the Knicks are willing to take on his contract, Houston should take a f***ing pack of gum for him. Then you can get an ACTUAL return for Harden and be on your way about your rebuild. They're obviously a pretender rn, and it's not like selling off your stars is gonna affect ticket sales.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2020 6:57:59 GMT -5
Knicks rubbing their hands together like Birdman, they about to offer Frank, Knox and a 2nd round pick and say take it or leave it Rockets got no leverage. Russ doesn't understand that no team better than the Rockets wants him. Unless Milwaukee goes full-Cleveland in LeBron's first run. If the Knicks are willing to take on his contract, Houston should take a f***ing pack of gum for him. Then you can get an ACTUAL return for Harden and be on your way about your rebuild. They're obviously a pretender rn, and it's not like selling off your stars is gonna affect ticket sales. I don’t want Westbrook but a cheap deal is a cheap deal. The best Westbrook can hope for is Miami or Lakers show interest. I just don’t see it tho and if they do show interest they are lowballing the shit out of Houston. LeBron could probably force a deal if he really wants Brodie but I don’t see why he would. Miami is saving money for Giannis. MAYBE you can do a Middleton for Westbrook swap. Possibly flip the teams since their contracts match. Bledsoe, Middleton for Gordon and Brodie. Houston has no leverage right now
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Post by sfvega on Nov 12, 2020 7:56:05 GMT -5
Rockets got no leverage. Russ doesn't understand that no team better than the Rockets wants him. Unless Milwaukee goes full-Cleveland in LeBron's first run. If the Knicks are willing to take on his contract, Houston should take a f***ing pack of gum for him. Then you can get an ACTUAL return for Harden and be on your way about your rebuild. They're obviously a pretender rn, and it's not like selling off your stars is gonna affect ticket sales. I don’t want Westbrook but a cheap deal is a cheap deal. The best Westbrook can hope for is Miami or Lakers show interest. I just don’t see it tho and if they do show interest they are lowballing the shit out of Houston. LeBron could probably force a deal if he really wants Brodie but I don’t see why he would. Miami is saving money for Giannis. MAYBE you can do a Middleton for Westbrook swap. Possibly flip the teams since their contracts match. Bledsoe, Middleton for Gordon and Brodie. Houston has no leverage right now Yeah, but Milwaukee doesn't need another dude to jam the paint. Brodie was best after they dealt Capela because the lane was wide open. Not the case with Giannis. Bucks need guys who can create their own space and hit open shots. Russ is definitely one but the furthest thing from the other. He also has an issue with not understanding his role of robin, going back to the KD days and through last playoffs. Coach Bud would probably hate the idea of Giannis losing shots in crunch time to Westbrook, and he's also a big proponent of defense which Westbrook isn't all that interested in. It would be a bad move to get rid of Middleton, who has a lot of what they need (they simply need more of it) to get Westbrook who is the antithesis of what they need. Gordon is EXACTLY what they need tho. Then again, I'm not putting it past Milwaukee's FO to just make a big, dumb move because they feel desperate to keep Giannis. They have limited options out there and they may also mistake a big move for a great move.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2020 8:12:10 GMT -5
I don’t want Westbrook but a cheap deal is a cheap deal. The best Westbrook can hope for is Miami or Lakers show interest. I just don’t see it tho and if they do show interest they are lowballing the shit out of Houston. LeBron could probably force a deal if he really wants Brodie but I don’t see why he would. Miami is saving money for Giannis. MAYBE you can do a Middleton for Westbrook swap. Possibly flip the teams since their contracts match. Bledsoe, Middleton for Gordon and Brodie. Houston has no leverage right now Yeah, but Milwaukee doesn't need another dude to jam the paint. Brodie was best after they dealt Capela because the lane was wide open. Not the case with Giannis. Bucks need guys who can create their own space and hit open shots. Russ is definitely one but the furthest thing from the other. He also has an issue with not understanding his role of robin, going back to the KD days and through last playoffs. Coach Bud would probably hate the idea of Giannis losing shots in crunch time to Westbrook, and he's also a big proponent of defense which Westbrook isn't all that interested in. It would be a bad move to get rid of Middleton, who has a lot of what they need (they simply need more of it) to get Westbrook who is the antithesis of what they need. Gordon is EXACTLY what they need tho. Then again, I'm not putting it past Milwaukee's FO to just make a big, dumb move because they feel desperate to keep Giannis. They have limited options out there and they may also mistake a big move for a great move. I wouldn't do it but I wouldn't underestimate the desperation of Milwaukee and Westbrook is the big name but big mistake move they can make But as usual Westbrook is overvaluing his own value. I will still say his triple double seasons was overrated and if he learned to play Robin instead of trying to be Batman he'd keep teammates. Best he can hope for is teams like Knicks, Det wanting him. Best he may get is Phoenix if they can't get CP3 but he has not fit in the NBA right now as far as championship aspirations go
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Post by sfvega on Nov 12, 2020 9:37:53 GMT -5
Yeah, but Milwaukee doesn't need another dude to jam the paint. Brodie was best after they dealt Capela because the lane was wide open. Not the case with Giannis. Bucks need guys who can create their own space and hit open shots. Russ is definitely one but the furthest thing from the other. He also has an issue with not understanding his role of robin, going back to the KD days and through last playoffs. Coach Bud would probably hate the idea of Giannis losing shots in crunch time to Westbrook, and he's also a big proponent of defense which Westbrook isn't all that interested in. It would be a bad move to get rid of Middleton, who has a lot of what they need (they simply need more of it) to get Westbrook who is the antithesis of what they need. Gordon is EXACTLY what they need tho. Then again, I'm not putting it past Milwaukee's FO to just make a big, dumb move because they feel desperate to keep Giannis. They have limited options out there and they may also mistake a big move for a great move. I wouldn't do it but I wouldn't underestimate the desperation of Milwaukee and Westbrook is the big name but big mistake move they can make But as usual Westbrook is overvaluing his own value. I will still say his triple double seasons was overrated and if he learned to play Robin instead of trying to be Batman he'd keep teammates. Best he can hope for is teams like Knicks, Det wanting him. Best he may get is Phoenix if they can't get CP3 but he has not fit in the NBA right now as far as championship aspirations go Miami probably is too smart for it. Milwaukee could feel pressure internally to do it. Phoenix I think has their eyes set on someone to compliment Book, so I don't think Russ is "safe" there. That's a team he should want to be on, but like you mentioned, wouldn't consider. LeBron is a terrible GM and the Knicks are the Knicks, so those two are very much in play.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2020 11:03:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it but I wouldn't underestimate the desperation of Milwaukee and Westbrook is the big name but big mistake move they can make But as usual Westbrook is overvaluing his own value. I will still say his triple double seasons was overrated and if he learned to play Robin instead of trying to be Batman he'd keep teammates. Best he can hope for is teams like Knicks, Det wanting him. Best he may get is Phoenix if they can't get CP3 but he has not fit in the NBA right now as far as championship aspirations go Miami probably is too smart for it. Milwaukee could feel pressure internally to do it. Phoenix I think has their eyes set on someone to compliment Book, so I don't think Russ is "safe" there. That's a team he should want to be on, but like you mentioned, wouldn't consider. LeBron is a terrible GM and the Knicks are the Knicks, so those two are very much in play. The only thing in Westbrook favor is that OKC is going to want value for CP3 so Brodie may be the "cheaper option" assuming Houston isn't crazy enough to ask for a premium Reports are Westbrook wants the same role he had in OKC after KD left. Number one player where he puts up all the stats and barely make the playoffs
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tenshi
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by tenshi on Nov 12, 2020 15:33:08 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 12, 2020 16:37:48 GMT -5
So the Lakers want Demar DeRozan and they plan to give two of the players fans have been bashing all year in return... Not a good trade for either side Lakers need spacing. AD, Bron and Demar would just clog the FT lane On the Spurs side, if i'm not mistaken Green has 3 more years on his deal. Spurs don't want to take on deals when they trying to get Aldridge and Demar off the books. Besides that, Kuzma is in the last year of his rookie deal. Pretty sure Spurs would want to see what type of player he is before they commit dollars to him. Worst case scenario is someone offers him a poison pill deal and you let him walk because you don't want Kuz 4 years from now making $25 mill on a contract
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tenshi
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Post by tenshi on Nov 12, 2020 18:57:55 GMT -5
So the Lakers want Demar DeRozan and they plan to give two of the players fans have been bashing all year in return... Not a good trade for either side Lakers need spacing. AD, Bron and Demar would just clog the FT lane On the Spurs side, if i'm not mistaken Green has 3 more years on his deal. Spurs don't want to take on deals when they trying to get Aldridge and Demar off the books. Besides that, Kuzma is in the last year of his rookie deal. Pretty sure Spurs would want to see what type of player he is before they commit dollars to him. Worst case scenario is someone offers him a poison pill deal and you let him walk because you don't want Kuz 4 years from now making $25 mill on a contract Danny Green is in his last year of his contract, getting $15 millions. While both Danny and Kuzma could be assets, I want to believe that San Antonio could get something better for Demar, especially considering that the Spurs and the Lakers don't get along.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 13, 2020 11:06:39 GMT -5
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Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Rican on Nov 13, 2020 11:22:31 GMT -5
In non-draft non-free agency fashion news, FINALLY THE FIESTA JERSEYS!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 13, 2020 16:02:19 GMT -5
Knicks are on the shortlist of teams Westbrook is willing to go to
He wants to be the centerpiece and if Knicks is willing to absorb his whole contract then Rockets are willing to make a deal
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 13, 2020 16:07:24 GMT -5
Knicks are on the shortlist of teams Westbrook is willing to go to He wants to be the centerpiece and if Knicks is willing to absorb his whole contract then Rockets are willing to make a deal Are y’all desperate enough to make the playoffs to take his nonsense on to make the 8 seed and get immediately blown out? Man... I cannot imagine a scenario where I’d want Westbrook on my team. Not bad enough to be a tank commander, not good enough to lead a team anywhere, and too shitty a teammate to build a team anywhere near him.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 13, 2020 16:14:50 GMT -5
Knicks are on the shortlist of teams Westbrook is willing to go to He wants to be the centerpiece and if Knicks is willing to absorb his whole contract then Rockets are willing to make a deal Are y’all desperate enough to make the playoffs to take his nonsense on to make the 8 seed and get immediately blown out? Man... I cannot imagine a scenario where I’d want Westbrook on my team. Not bad enough to be a tank commander, not good enough to lead a team anywhere, and too shitty a teammate to build a team anywhere near him. Dolan would be desperate enough and overrule the new GMs if he really wants him Westbrook is a head case. This isn’t a Jimmy Butler situation either. My fear is Westbrook is a Thibs kind of guy. Thibs is going to want him to antagonize the young players cause he plays hard and ruin them I’m just shrugging my shoulders at the whole thing. If you can’t get first round picks out of taking Westbrook, DON’T DO IT!!! You can go to other teams with your cap room and take on players and get picks and not f*** up your plans
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