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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 15:51:07 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade
Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade
I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 10, 2020 16:25:16 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards Warriors are going to need to get out of some of their 13 Max contracts some way or another. I donβt know what their cap situation looks like, but with Steph (SuperMax), Klay, Dray, and Wiggins they canβt really do much of anything else, can they?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 16:31:31 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards Warriors are going to need to get out of some of their 13 Max contracts some way or another. I donβt know what their cap situation looks like, but with Steph (SuperMax), Klay, Dray, and Wiggins they canβt really do much of anything else, can they? Yea, with all players healthy their cap is strapped this year as far as signing anyone outside of a mid level or vet minimum Curry has the supermax, Klay signed a max deal, Wiggins is in the middle of his max deal and Draymond is making a little under max However, what saves them is that they have a $17 million trade exception from the Igoulada deal. In fact, they have about $25 mill in trade exceptions they can use plus the mid level exception so they have a little room but they got to get creative,
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Post by tenshi on Nov 10, 2020 16:35:08 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards Some Spurs fans like the idea of Draymond Green and #2 being traded for Aldridge and #11 since it helps Golden State financially by not paying Green's contract by taking one year of Aldridge before getting cap space for the next season. I don't think the Warriors are moving one part of the core that brought them titles and success but I wouldn't mind if it happens.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 16:45:34 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards Some Spurs fans like the idea of Draymond Green and #2 being traded for Aldridge and #11 since it helps Golden State financially by not paying Green's contract by taking one year of Aldridge before getting cap space for the next season. I don't think the Warriors are moving one part of the core that brought them titles and success but I wouldn't mind if it happens. I think it is more likely the Spurs try to dangle the pick and Aldridge and get a deal with someone like ATL who has the number 6 pick and can absorb an Aldridge deal If Deni somehow falls to 6, i'd watch out for that move. I assume Spurs have done their homework on him and with their track record of international talent, they can bet on him while not sacrificing their future assets Tho the roadblock with ATL is Collins and Capela taking up the 4 and 5 spots but Aldridge as a sixth man and being the 4th quarter Center I think could solidify ATL in regards to playoff hunt If Spurs can't flip a deal within first 5 picks they probably stay where they at
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 10, 2020 16:48:17 GMT -5
Warriors are going to need to get out of some of their 13 Max contracts some way or another. I donβt know what their cap situation looks like, but with Steph (SuperMax), Klay, Dray, and Wiggins they canβt really do much of anything else, can they? Yea, with all players healthy their cap is strapped this year as far as signing anyone outside of a mid level or vet minimumΒ Curry has the supermax, Klay signed a max deal, Wiggins is in the middle of his max deal and Draymond is making a little under max However, what saves them is that they have a $17 million trade exception from the Igoulada deal. In fact, they have about $25 mill in trade exceptions they can use plus the mid level exception so they have a little room but they got to get creative,Β If any team can do it, I expect the Warriors to. The Kings have acquired some trade exemptions over the years and our esteemed GMβs always let them expire.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 17:47:08 GMT -5
Yea, with all players healthy their cap is strapped this year as far as signing anyone outside of a mid level or vet minimum Curry has the supermax, Klay signed a max deal, Wiggins is in the middle of his max deal and Draymond is making a little under max However, what saves them is that they have a $17 million trade exception from the Igoulada deal. In fact, they have about $25 mill in trade exceptions they can use plus the mid level exception so they have a little room but they got to get creative, If any team can do it, I expect the Warriors to. The Kings have acquired some trade exemptions over the years and our esteemed GMβs always let them expire. Yea, I expect Warriors to try to make a deal with someone Ideally, they would draft Wiseman and sign someone like Dwight Howard for half the mid level and use the other half for someone else. Then they can move Wiggins and get some role players and use that exception as well to fill out the team with trades Keep in mind they got people like Paschall, Poole, and Lee; young players that got valuable time and will be key off the bench. If people thought the Warriors were dead, they got another thing coming
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 10, 2020 18:13:39 GMT -5
If any team can do it, I expect the Warriors to. The Kings have acquired some trade exemptions over the years and our esteemed GMβs always let them expire. Yea, I expect Warriors to try to make a deal with someoneΒ Ideally, they would draft Wiseman and sign someone like Dwight Howard for half the mid level and use the other half for someone else. Then they can move Wiggins and get some role players and use that exception as well to fill out the team with trades Keep in mind they got people like Paschall, Poole, and Lee; young players that got valuable time and will be key off the bench. If people thought the Warriors were dead, they got another thing coming While not dead, I think theyβre done as a top-dog.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 18:16:50 GMT -5
Yea, I expect Warriors to try to make a deal with someone Ideally, they would draft Wiseman and sign someone like Dwight Howard for half the mid level and use the other half for someone else. Then they can move Wiggins and get some role players and use that exception as well to fill out the team with trades Keep in mind they got people like Paschall, Poole, and Lee; young players that got valuable time and will be key off the bench. If people thought the Warriors were dead, they got another thing coming While not dead, I think theyβre done as a top-dog. They can still finish top 4 in the West and I wouldn't sleep on them as an Underdog against either LA teams
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 19:47:48 GMT -5
Rumor going around about a potential Spurs/Warriors trade Alrdidge and the number 11 pick for presumably Wiggins and the number 2 pick looks to be framework of a trade I personally can't see it happening. It would benefit Warriors to have Wiggins come out the books and give them cap room but everyone believes if they don't trade the pick, they are taking Wiseman. If Wolves take LaMelo, Warriors would take Edwards Some Spurs fans like the idea of Draymond Green and #2 being traded for Aldridge and #11 since it helps Golden State financially by not paying Green's contract by taking one year of Aldridge before getting cap space for the next season. I don't think the Warriors are moving one part of the core that brought them titles and success but I wouldn't mind if it happens. Dray is very useful for them tho, even as he's declining. Still does all the heavy lifting on the defensive end, still run a lot of offense through him. Draymond and #2 for Aldridge and #11 is an overpay, even in a down draft. Aldridge is a downgrade on D and for ball movement and the gap between #2 and #11 is very wide. GS is thinking capitalize on what's left of their window. GS shouldn't do that deal at all without some sort of future 1st from SA, which they shouldn't be dealing.
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Post by tenshi on Nov 10, 2020 19:49:18 GMT -5
Some Spurs fans like the idea of Draymond Green and #2 being traded for Aldridge and #11 since it helps Golden State financially by not paying Green's contract by taking one year of Aldridge before getting cap space for the next season. I don't think the Warriors are moving one part of the core that brought them titles and success but I wouldn't mind if it happens. Dray is very useful for them tho, even as he's declining. Still does all the heavy lifting on the defensive end, still run a lot of offense through him. Draymond and #2 for Aldridge and #11 is an overpay, even in a down draft. Aldridge is a downgrade on D and for ball movement and the gap between #2 and #11 is very wide. GS shouldn't do that deal at all without some sort of future 1st from SA, which they shouldn't be dealing. Then the other option is Wiggins, who people aren't very high on given his development and big salary.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 19:55:52 GMT -5
While not dead, I think theyβre done as a top-dog. They can still finish top 4 in the West and I wouldn't sleep on them as an Underdog against either LA teams People have quickly forgotten how good the Splash Bros are when they are healthy and shooting in rhythm. Guys who shoot 8-12 threes a game AND shoot for very good percentages.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 20:00:51 GMT -5
Dray is very useful for them tho, even as he's declining. Still does all the heavy lifting on the defensive end, still run a lot of offense through him. Draymond and #2 for Aldridge and #11 is an overpay, even in a down draft. Aldridge is a downgrade on D and for ball movement and the gap between #2 and #11 is very wide. GS shouldn't do that deal at all without some sort of future 1st from SA, which they shouldn't be dealing. Then the other option is Wiggins, who people aren't very high on given his development and big salary. Yeah, Spurs need to figure out their rotation first and foremost. They should already be featuring White, not sure why they aren't. Gay slides in for LMA, which is fine. Wiggins just doesn't move the meter at all. Making way too much money for what he is; a completely one-dimensional scorer who really doesn't like to do anything else. Spurs could use a SF, just not Wiggins.
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Post by tenshi on Nov 10, 2020 20:11:00 GMT -5
Then the other option is Wiggins, who people aren't very high on given his development and big salary. Yeah, Spurs need to figure out their rotation first and foremost. They should already be featuring White, not sure why they aren't. Gay slides in for LMA, which is fine. Wiggins just doesn't move the meter at all. Making way too much money for what he is; a completely one-dimensional scorer who really doesn't like to do anything else. Spurs could use a SF, just not Wiggins. White/Murray/DeRozan/Lyles/Aldridge as the starting lineup with Mills/Johnson/Walker/Gay/Poeltl from the bench are alright with the talent currently available to them. Whether they can improve those lineups with trades or by drafting (and possibly move up or down depending on what happens along the way) is yet to be seen.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 10, 2020 20:30:24 GMT -5
They can still finish top 4 in the West and I wouldn't sleep on them as an Underdog against either LA teams People have quickly forgotten how good the Splash Bros are when they are healthy and shooting in rhythm. Guys who shoot 8-12 threes a game AND shoot for very good percentages. Throw in an annually declining Draymond and also Wiggins? They wonβt be near the same. (As they are now obvs)
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Post by Rican on Nov 10, 2020 20:50:33 GMT -5
Dray is very useful for them tho, even as he's declining. Still does all the heavy lifting on the defensive end, still run a lot of offense through him. Draymond and #2 for Aldridge and #11 is an overpay, even in a down draft. Aldridge is a downgrade on D and for ball movement and the gap between #2 and #11 is very wide. GS shouldn't do that deal at all without some sort of future 1st from SA, which they shouldn't be dealing. Then the other option is Wiggins, who people aren't very high on given his development and big salary. Iβd rather have Wiggins, one less year on the deal, younger, and hey maybe Pop can be the one to finally unlock something there lol. The Aldridge/Warriors stuff is kind of interesting but have a hard time seeing either team ultimately doing it. But if the Warriors goal is to clear cap space for 2021 while also getting someone who can help even as a rental, you can do worse than Aldridge. But yeah I am expecting the Spurs to move up in the draft. There are a few teams ahead of them with the cap space to absorb one of the big contracts. Iβve heard them linked to Patrick Williams a lot whoβs draft stock is shooting up.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 21:01:33 GMT -5
Yeah, Spurs need to figure out their rotation first and foremost. They should already be featuring White, not sure why they aren't. Gay slides in for LMA, which is fine. Wiggins just doesn't move the meter at all. Making way too much money for what he is; a completely one-dimensional scorer who really doesn't like to do anything else. Spurs could use a SF, just not Wiggins. White/Murray/DeRozan/Lyles/Aldridge as the starting lineup with Mills/Johnson/Walker/Gay/Poeltl from the bench are alright with the talent currently available to them. Whether they can improve those lineups with trades or by drafting (and possibly move up or down depending on what happens along the way) is yet to be seen. I've always been a fan of Mills, going back to St. Mary's. But there's no reason why White shouldn't have become a 34-36 minute/night player. And Pop is the best strategist ever and it's hard for me to be critical of his decisions because he's just very rarely wrong and the make-up of the team is obviously that of a middling team. But he was 25 last year and entering that 3rd year when a lot of guys make big jumps in development, he shot a 46/37/85 split. He's there, he just doesn't get the run he should. The team will look very different and better once DeRozan leaves. He's a square peg in a round hole. Wiggins would be more of the same.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 21:04:47 GMT -5
People have quickly forgotten how good the Splash Bros are when they are healthy and shooting in rhythm. Guys who shoot 8-12 threes a game AND shoot for very good percentages. Throw in an annually declining Draymond and also Wiggins? They wonβt be near the same. (As they are now obvs) Draymond has been declining for a while, still brings what he brings. He's just no longer a DPOY or efficient offensive player. Warriors aren't a cut above anymore, but their downfall has been overstated. Their lack of depth is their biggest issue. But depends on what they can do with the #2 pick.
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Post by RI Richmark on Nov 10, 2020 21:43:21 GMT -5
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