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Post by sfvega on Nov 4, 2020 13:49:59 GMT -5
Yeah, if there was one lottery to lose, it was this one. If there's one to win, it's 2022. Bates is getting compared to KD and Wembanyama is basically Gobert (already has his 7'9 wingspan at 16) with a three point shot. I swear, you gotta be praying the Knicks are trash in 2021-22. Watch them go .500 2022 is the skilled big man draft with potential HOF talent. Itโs going to be ridiculous I canโt trust the Knicks to actually follow through on โrebuildingโ. This team should be bad. What they did last year was f**ing stupid in giving vets all these contracts and didnโt even trade them to get value. Hopefully, they learned their lesson and it seems like they are thinking smart in regards wanting to take on salary for draft picks Tho if some way they got CP3, Melo is supposed to be behind him. Once again, no reason to win but they going try field this veteran/young players mix. BE SMART!!! OKC knows last season was fools gold. They not running that back, they going tank and build this team up in hopes of they can run off another good luck of draft picks that made them a successful team Knicks have been bad forever. Might as well be bad the next two years because this isn't a 2/3 player draft. These are 8-15 deep at the top. But like I said, watch them put their first competitive team in years together for the double draft year. It just seems like something they'd do. Teams are gonna be protecting the 1sts for that year like crazy, so if the Knicks are trying to get picks for cap space, they better do it this season.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 4, 2020 22:55:15 GMT -5
So apparently they've hammered out most of the details on a Dec. 22 start to the season presumptively. They have also named the FA start date as "48-72 hours after the draft." Everyone: So did you pick a FA start day? NBA: Teams arrived in the bubble almost FOUR months ago and outside of the protest, which was relatively short, the timeline stayed on course. They've had forever to just pick a date, we're two weeks away from the draft and still not a hard date. This is something incredibly simple and they've been completely incompetent on it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 5, 2020 4:39:57 GMT -5
So apparently they've hammered out most of the details on a Dec. 22 start to the season presumptively. They have also named the FA start date as "48-72 hours after the draft." Everyone: So did you pick a FA start day? NBA: Teams arrived in the bubble almost FOUR months ago and outside of the protest, which was relatively short, the timeline stayed on course. They've had forever to just pick a date, we're two weeks away from the draft and still not a hard date. This is something incredibly simple and they've been completely incompetent on it. LeBron will not play until like Jan if they starting Dec 22 This is dumb on the NBA part. Teams are going to bitch about having a month to do FA and training camp in that time
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Post by sfvega on Nov 5, 2020 5:16:12 GMT -5
So apparently they've hammered out most of the details on a Dec. 22 start to the season presumptively. They have also named the FA start date as "48-72 hours after the draft." Everyone: So did you pick a FA start day? NBA: Teams arrived in the bubble almost FOUR months ago and outside of the protest, which was relatively short, the timeline stayed on course. They've had forever to just pick a date, we're two weeks away from the draft and still not a hard date. This is something incredibly simple and they've been completely incompetent on it. LeBron will not play until like Jan if they starting Dec 22 This is dumb on the NBA part. Teams are going to bitch about having a month to do FA and training camp in that time Yeah, I feel like they've just flipped the dynamic for the season this year. Guys needing rest from a quick turnaround and natural load management plus the play-in games at the end of the year, the early-season games are probably going to be rest-fests and the late season games will be better than ever.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 5, 2020 5:42:04 GMT -5
LeBron will not play until like Jan if they starting Dec 22 This is dumb on the NBA part. Teams are going to bitch about having a month to do FA and training camp in that time Yeah, I feel like they've just flipped the dynamic for the season this year. Guys needing rest from a quick turnaround and natural load management plus the play-in games at the end of the year, the early-season games are probably going to be rest-fests and the late season games will be better than ever. Beginning of the season means nothing like it usually does but it increases why the last half of the season will mean a lot A team like the Lakers coming off a championship might struggle early. They will essentially have a new team since they had a ton of one year players and I doubt LeBron and AD going play a lot early. If youโre a team with stability like a Portland this could be good for you
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 6, 2020 1:49:36 GMT -5
December 22nd for a 72 game season is official
All things considered, the season should finish in August. I can't see how we aren't officially moving the seasons to December at this point
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 6, 2020 13:21:27 GMT -5
Those who know basketball commentators more than me; is Mark Jones any good? The Kings just hired him to replace Grant Napear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 13:27:17 GMT -5
No teams are gonna be happy especially those teams that made it to the conference finals and the finals respectively ...I wont be surprised it we end up with a litney of injuries just because of how quick this turn around is.
But now from a business end I understand what the NBA is trying to do with trying to get this season started as quickly as possible so that they can start the next season back on the normal track.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 6, 2020 13:38:58 GMT -5
Those who know basketball commentators more than me; is Mark Jones any good? The Kings just hired him to replace Grant Napear. He's good. He has been doing ESPN games for years. You've heard and seen him
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Post by sfvega on Nov 6, 2020 22:47:17 GMT -5
No teams are gonna be happy especially those teams that made it to the conference finals and the finals respectively ...I wont be surprised it we end up with a litney of injuries just because of how quick this turn around is. But now from a business end I understand what the NBA is trying to do with trying to get this season started as quickly as possible so that they can start the next season back on the normal track. So you're saying the Clippers are unaffected? :/ PG playing the looooong long-game.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 6, 2020 22:52:51 GMT -5
Those who know basketball commentators more than me; is Mark Jones any good? The Kings just hired him to replace Grant Napear. He's good. He has been doing ESPN games for years. You've heard and seen himย I like Jones. A little vanilla in banter, but still excitable and calls the game pretty astutely.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 6, 2020 23:22:50 GMT -5
He's good. He has been doing ESPN games for years. You've heard and seen himย I like Jones. A little vanilla in banter, but still excitable and calls the game pretty astutely. Heโll have Captain Cornball Doug Christie to play off of, so Iโll take it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 0:25:26 GMT -5
No All-Star game sucks, and the only reason I care is because it would be held here.
Instead, we gotta wait until 2024.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 9, 2020 10:37:12 GMT -5
Some NBA News
- Chauncey Billups is finalizing his deal to be a Clippers assistant coach. Sad it took this long for him to find a job
- Larry Drew will also be joining the coaching staff
- Lakers expected to go after Serge Ibaka
- Knicks are looking at MKG as a "locker room leader guy"
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 8:47:14 GMT -5
I feel like the top of the draft will end up being pretty chalk with
LaMelo Edwards Wiseman Hayes/Deni
As the top 4. Wiseman is the biggest question mark IMO, but Charlotte isn't exactly known for it's drafting. Hayes I would give about a 5% chance of falling to the Knicks. I just really like his game (well, for this class anyway. Not as much overall.) It's a strange dynamic with Okongwu and Toppin. Toppin has only fallen since basketball has been on pause. Okongwu has only risen the past few months. I get why Okongwu is intriguing with his length and defense and versatility, but at the same time when he and Toppin were playing, everyone was talking about Toppin. Which doesn't necessarily mean that he's the better player (*cough* Adam Morrison *cough*), but I feel like people are forgetting how much Toppin showed out because it's been like 9 months.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 9:15:14 GMT -5
I feel like the top of the draft will end up being pretty chalk with LaMelo Edwards Wiseman Hayes/Deni As the top 4. Wiseman is the biggest question mark IMO, but Charlotte isn't exactly known for it's drafting. Hayes I would give about a 5% chance of falling to the Knicks. I just really like his game (well, for this class anyway. Not as much overall.) It's a strange dynamic with Okongwu and Toppin. Toppin has only fallen since basketball has been on pause. Okongwu has only risen the past few months. I get why Okongwu is intriguing with his length and defense and versatility, but at the same time when he and Toppin were playing, everyone was talking about Toppin. Which doesn't necessarily mean that he's the better player (*cough* Adam Morrison *cough*), but I feel like people are forgetting how much Toppin showed out because it's been like 9 months. The only thing with Toppin is people feel like he will be as good as he is now as he will be in the next 5 years. He's a "late rookie" in todays age. He will be 23 years old I believe by the time they tip the NBA season off or finishing his rookie season. In a sense, he might compare to a guy like Miles Bridges. Okongwu is intriguing but drafting a defensive big man who offense is way behind the NBA level that high scares the shit out of me. They either take a while to develop or don't pan out at all. Look at some over the last few years that was drafted top 10 not counting Anthony Davis. Nerlens Noel, Mo Bamba, Alex Len, Bismack Biyombo, Hasheem Thabeet etc Wiseman is going to be a toss up with how his career can go but people are going to ride the upside and hops he becomes a hybrid NBA big man like KAT. Charlotte will chance that pick on him cause they got nothing to lose and need a potential star but Jordan track record with draft picks is at best shakey
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 10:11:26 GMT -5
I feel like the top of the draft will end up being pretty chalk with LaMelo Edwards Wiseman Hayes/Deni As the top 4. Wiseman is the biggest question mark IMO, but Charlotte isn't exactly known for it's drafting. Hayes I would give about a 5% chance of falling to the Knicks. I just really like his game (well, for this class anyway. Not as much overall.) It's a strange dynamic with Okongwu and Toppin. Toppin has only fallen since basketball has been on pause. Okongwu has only risen the past few months. I get why Okongwu is intriguing with his length and defense and versatility, but at the same time when he and Toppin were playing, everyone was talking about Toppin. Which doesn't necessarily mean that he's the better player (*cough* Adam Morrison *cough*), but I feel like people are forgetting how much Toppin showed out because it's been like 9 months. The only thing with Toppin is people feel like he will be as good as he is now as he will be in the next 5 years. He's a "late rookie" in todays age. He will be 23 years old I believe by the time they tip the NBA season off or finishing his rookie season. In a sense, he might compare to a guy like Miles Bridges.ย Okongwu is intriguing but drafting a defensive big man who offense is way behind the NBA level that high scares the shit out of me. They either take a while to develop or don't pan out at all. Look at some over the last few years that was drafted top 10 not counting Anthony Davis. Nerlens Noel, Mo Bamba, Alex Len, Bismack Biyombo, Hasheem Thabeet etc Wiseman is going to be a toss up with how his career can go but people are going to ride the upside and hops he becomes a hybrid NBA big man like KAT. Charlotte will chance that pick on him cause they got nothing to lose and need a potential star but Jordan track record with draft picks is at best shakeyย Toppin is old, true. But in this draft, I'll take the high-floor player after pick 5 because you normally have guys in the 8-16 area that bust and that's in good classes. This one is ass. Like Rui Hachimura last year (? Two years ago? Time is a 4ough concept rn), a guy who has a definite, tangible ceiling but also had real skills that translated to the NBA. Wiseman has a high ceiling but feels a little bit like fool's gold in the top 3 for a team like Charlotte. As you've mentioned, bad teams beget bad picks.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 10:55:58 GMT -5
The only thing with Toppin is people feel like he will be as good as he is now as he will be in the next 5 years. He's a "late rookie" in todays age. He will be 23 years old I believe by the time they tip the NBA season off or finishing his rookie season. In a sense, he might compare to a guy like Miles Bridges. Okongwu is intriguing but drafting a defensive big man who offense is way behind the NBA level that high scares the shit out of me. They either take a while to develop or don't pan out at all. Look at some over the last few years that was drafted top 10 not counting Anthony Davis. Nerlens Noel, Mo Bamba, Alex Len, Bismack Biyombo, Hasheem Thabeet etc Wiseman is going to be a toss up with how his career can go but people are going to ride the upside and hops he becomes a hybrid NBA big man like KAT. Charlotte will chance that pick on him cause they got nothing to lose and need a potential star but Jordan track record with draft picks is at best shakey Toppin is old, true. But in this draft, I'll take the high-floor player after pick 5 because you normally have guys in the 8-16 area that bust and that's in good classes. This one is ass. Like Rui Hachimura last year (? Two years ago? Time is a 4ough concept rn), a guy who has a definite, tangible ceiling but also had real skills that translated to the NBA. Wiseman has a high ceiling but feels a little bit like fool's gold in the top 3 for a team like Charlotte. As you've mentioned, bad teams beget bad picks. Toppin is a guy you pick as a brick layer for the foundation for your team. Who knows, he could be a star but if anything he should be a key rotation player in the NBA and his solid play will help build a foundation to add onto Charlotte is no mans land. I think they will just go with the high upside which is what Wiseman is and hope he doesn't flame out. They have nothing else and they need an attraction. But as keep saying before, everything after top 5 is a crapshoot. One thing i'm certain on is top 10 is where the Guards will go heavy and then Forwards will go heavy 11-20. This is what you pay scouting for because 7-20 doesn't have a big talent gap but as seen every year someone slips and takes people by storm.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 10, 2020 11:38:15 GMT -5
Toppin is old, true. But in this draft, I'll take the high-floor player after pick 5 because you normally have guys in the 8-16 area that bust and that's in good classes. This one is ass. Like Rui Hachimura last year (? Two years ago? Time is a 4ough concept rn), a guy who has a definite, tangible ceiling but also had real skills that translated to the NBA. Wiseman has a high ceiling but feels a little bit like fool's gold in the top 3 for a team like Charlotte. As you've mentioned, bad teams beget bad picks. Toppin is a guy you pick as a brick layer for the foundation for your team. Who knows, he could be a star but if anything he should be a key rotation player in the NBA and his solid play will help build a foundation to add ontoย Charlotte is no mans land. I think they will just go with the high upside which is what Wiseman is and hope he doesn't flame out. They have nothing else and they need an attraction.ย But as keep saying before, everything after top 5 is a crapshoot. One thing i'm certain on is top 10 is where the Guards will go heavy and then Forwards will go heavy 11-20.ย This is what you pay scouting for because 7-20 doesn't have a big talent gap but as seen every year someone slips and takes people by storm. So you're saying Toppin is Kevin Knox 2.0? Also, if I'm the Bulls and almost anyone offers me a 1st next year, I take it and move down. Deni is kinda what they need, but not a building block. And with LaVine in the picture, there's no path to playing time for Hayes with Coby White's strong season. They'll miss the playoffs again anyway and with the extra ammo in a loaded draft, they could make waves that would make Deni seem like small potatoes.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 10, 2020 11:45:05 GMT -5
Toppin is a guy you pick as a brick layer for the foundation for your team. Who knows, he could be a star but if anything he should be a key rotation player in the NBA and his solid play will help build a foundation to add onto Charlotte is no mans land. I think they will just go with the high upside which is what Wiseman is and hope he doesn't flame out. They have nothing else and they need an attraction. But as keep saying before, everything after top 5 is a crapshoot. One thing i'm certain on is top 10 is where the Guards will go heavy and then Forwards will go heavy 11-20. This is what you pay scouting for because 7-20 doesn't have a big talent gap but as seen every year someone slips and takes people by storm. So you're saying Toppin is Kevin Knox 2.0? Also, if I'm the Bulls and almost anyone offers me a 1st next year, I take it and move down. Deni is kinda what they need, but not a building block. And with LaVine in the picture, there's no path to playing time for Hayes with Coby White's strong season. They'll miss the playoffs again anyway and with the extra ammo in a loaded draft, they could make waves that would make Deni seem like small potatoes. Well, Bulls got their own thing to worry about Rumor is they want LaMelo or Haliburton. Talks are out there in terms of moving Lavine and trying to gather draft picks for later but that's not to say they going to move Lavine at the draft but at some point before his contract they will try to Toppin will be what Knox should have been. Knicks choose Knox over MPJ because they thought they had a stable player. He wasn't supposed to dip this far down but I put blame on coaching for that as well
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