Squirrel Master
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Squirrel Master on Oct 25, 2020 16:04:15 GMT -5
I would have liked to see one of the Japanese guys go over Goldberg. Someone like Masahiro Chono or Kurosawa.
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Post by bigfatpaulie on Oct 26, 2020 8:27:50 GMT -5
I think they should have had Booker T end the streak, but much later than it ended in real life. Here's how I would've booked it: Goldberg beats Nash clean at Starrcade 98. The following night on Nitro, Hogan returns, gloating that Nash couldn't get the job done. This leads to a match between Hogan and Nash to determine who will face Goldberg for the title on the next Nitro. Hogan wins, and on the infamous IRL 1/4/99 Nitro, he faces Goldberg. Goldberg has a clear advantage until he is jumped from behind by Nash. The ref calls for a DQ, so the streak is intact. The NWO reunion and subsequent beatdown still happen.
Goldberg then makes it his mission to destroy the NW0 and end Hogan's career. One by one, he picks the group apart, including winning pay per view title defenses against Nash, Luger, Steiner, and Bagwell. Hogan, in a fit of jealous rage, blames Nash and kicks him out of the NWO forever. Commissioner Ric Flair makes a rule that if Goldberg beats Hogan, all the members of the NWO are fired. Hogan goes to great lengths to rally the troops and ensure Goldberg can't get near him, but not everyone is on board. Some members leave the NWO on their own volition, like rats fleeing a sinking ship. Others simply tire of being Hogan's lackeys, or fear for their jobs. Eventually, Hogan and Hall are the only two left. Goldberg gets his match with Hogan at Bash at the Beach. Goldberg wins, streak still continues. The NWO, along with Hollywood Hogan and Scott Hall, are gone forever.
Goldberg has accomplished his goal. He issues an open challenge on the Nitro after Bash at the Beach, and Booker T answers. Perhaps fatigued from his battle the night before, Goldberg struggles to put his challenger away. He eventually rolls up Booker and gets the pinfall, but...did he grab a handful of tights to do it?
This marks the start of an attitude change for Goldberg. The NWO is gone, and when he looks in the mirror and sees the big gold belt around his waist, Goldberg realizes that he has all the power now. Goldberg starts to act more and more cocky and become more power-hungry, to the point that he recruits some of the very goons he once despised, like Bagwell and Luger, to be his backup. He will do anything to protect his position, and increasingly uses nefarious means to win matches.
Increasingly, it becomes clear that WCW needs to be saved. Once again, Sting appears to be that savior. Sting faces Goldberg at Halloween Havoc 99. This time, Sting can't save the company. Goldberg viciously demolishes him. The match is nearly a squash. Flair (still commissioner in this story) decides he'll have to do the work himself, and challenges Goldberg to a match right after he puts away Sting. He also gets destroyed.
With Flair on the shelf, Nash becomes commissioner of WCW. He decides that the man who can beat Goldberg, and end this reign of terror that resulted from his babyface streak, is the one who took him to the limit months ago, and hasn't lost since he got cheated out of his chance at gold: Booker T. He books Booker T vs. Goldberg, inside a steel cage, at Starrcade 99. After a hard battle, Goldberg hits the jackhammer and it looks like the streak will continue, but Booker kicks out. Three scissors kicks later, Booker pins Goldberg for a 3 count. Booker T ends the streak, a full year after it ended in real life, after Goldberg had stretched it to an even 200-0. A new star is born, and WCW has clearly transitioned from the NWO era to a new era with a younger generation.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Oct 27, 2020 8:07:46 GMT -5
I think they should have had Booker T end the streak, but much later than it ended in real life. Here's how I would've booked it: Goldberg beats Nash clean at Starrcade 98. The following night on Nitro, Hogan returns, gloating that Nash couldn't get the job done. This leads to a match between Hogan and Nash to determine who will face Goldberg for the title on the next Nitro. Hogan wins, and on the infamous IRL 1/4/99 Nitro, he faces Goldberg. Goldberg has a clear advantage until he is jumped from behind by Nash. The ref calls for a DQ, so the streak is intact. The NWO reunion and subsequent beatdown still happen. Goldberg then makes it his mission to destroy the NW0 and end Hogan's career. One by one, he picks the group apart, including winning pay per view title defenses against Nash, Luger, Steiner, and Bagwell. Hogan, in a fit of jealous rage, blames Nash and kicks him out of the NWO forever. Commissioner Ric Flair makes a rule that if Goldberg beats Hogan, all the members of the NWO are fired. Hogan goes to great lengths to rally the troops and ensure Goldberg can't get near him, but not everyone is on board. Some members leave the NWO on their own volition, like rats fleeing a sinking ship. Others simply tire of being Hogan's lackeys, or fear for their jobs. Eventually, Hogan and Hall are the only two left. Goldberg gets his match with Hogan at Bash at the Beach. Goldberg wins, streak still continues. The NWO, along with Hollywood Hogan and Scott Hall, are gone forever. Goldberg has accomplished his goal. He issues an open challenge on the Nitro after Bash at the Beach, and Booker T answers. Perhaps fatigued from his battle the night before, Goldberg struggles to put his challenger away. He eventually rolls up Booker and gets the pinfall, but...did he grab a handful of tights to do it? This marks the start of an attitude change for Goldberg. The NWO is gone, and when he looks in the mirror and sees the big gold belt around his waist, Goldberg realizes that he has all the power now. Goldberg starts to act more and more cocky and become more power-hungry, to the point that he recruits some of the very goons he once despised, like Bagwell and Luger, to be his backup. He will do anything to protect his position, and increasingly uses nefarious means to win matches. Increasingly, it becomes clear that WCW needs to be saved. Once again, Sting appears to be that savior. Sting faces Goldberg at Halloween Havoc 99. This time, Sting can't save the company. Goldberg viciously demolishes him. The match is nearly a squash. Flair (still commissioner in this story) decides he'll have to do the work himself, and challenges Goldberg to a match right after he puts away Sting. He also gets destroyed. With Flair on the shelf, Nash becomes commissioner of WCW. He decides that the man who can beat Goldberg, and end this reign of terror that resulted from his babyface streak, is the one who took him to the limit months ago, and hasn't lost since he got cheated out of his chance at gold: Booker T. He books Booker T vs. Goldberg, inside a steel cage, at Starrcade 99. After a hard battle, Goldberg hits the jackhammer and it looks like the streak will continue, but Booker kicks out. Three scissors kicks later, Booker pins Goldberg for a 3 count. Booker T ends the streak, a full year after it ended in real life, after Goldberg had stretched it to an even 200-0. A new star is born, and WCW has clearly transitioned from the NWO era to a new era with a younger generation. That's a fantastic conclusion to the streak. My only change would be someone other than Booker T as the streak breaker if we are going for new blood (no pun intended). Maybe its just me but much like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels, I just don't buy tenured tag team guys as "fresh talent" once they go into singles competition.
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Post by sfvega on Oct 27, 2020 10:18:02 GMT -5
Nash was fine, the way they did it would have been fine had it not been for the FPoD. Nash was probably a hair above DDP as the most over guy in the company, he was getting huge reactions in the Wolfpac. Obviously Hogan had to again attach himself to a more over group, and in doing so this takes all the rub away from Nash who was a gigantic fan favorite and positions him as eager lackey #1 to Hogan, which put over no one and actively took away from Nash and basically ended Goldberg as a draw. By the end of 98, Hogan was putting people to sleep with his long, rambling promos and everyone was tired of him again. This move makes him a top heel, only to turn face him in 2 months. It's like when the calendar turned past 98, WCW went from chaotic to absolutely nonsensical.
In the end, Nash was a solid choice. Page was also a solid choice. It was always going to end up second guessed, by nature. But to have Goldberg drop the belt to someone, and not even let that guy headline the next PPV is just crazy. Even if you had Silver King beat him, you need that guy to main event a PPV. Also, insanely weird that the only two PPVs that Goldberg main evented as a champion in that run were the disaster Havoc overrun and the Nash loss, while Jay Leno got a PPV main event win that everyone got to see. So maybe the nonsense started a little early.....
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Oct 27, 2020 10:57:14 GMT -5
If built up over several months either DDP, Booker T or Scott Steiner. You’d hopefully get a fresh legit top guy out of it the fans would buy. Personally I’d go with Steiner in his crazy Big Poppa Pump persona. Have him obliterate dudes for six months and take down some main event guys like Sting, Luger and The Giant before dethroning Goldberg at Bash at the Beach 99. I picked DDP, but I like this idea too. Steiner was CRAZY over at that time.
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deezy
Don Corleone
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Post by deezy on Oct 27, 2020 12:02:56 GMT -5
They should of had Scott Steiner end it. They could of built him up a bit more for him to take the title off Goldberg. Imo those 2 could have had a red hot feud.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 27, 2020 12:25:22 GMT -5
Nash I think was a fine choice, even with the screwy ending. What cheapened the end of the streak was the Fingerpoke of Doom the next night.
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The Ichi
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 27, 2020 12:35:18 GMT -5
I keep reading this as Goldberg's steak. You know he's a medium well guy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 14:53:51 GMT -5
I know it's "fantasy" booking but it's hard to overlook some things.
Scott Steiner for instance if you had magical powers and could make sure he would stay healthy I think would have been ideal to break the streak and become the new main event heel and build to a mega rematch with Goldberg 6-12 months down the line but he missed most of 1999 and even when he returned in 2000 and finally got the world title his body was falling apart and he barely made it to the final Nitro. You weren't going to be able to get much juice out of him beating the streak.
DDP gave Goldberg his best match but he was in his mid 40's and almost done at the top level. His character was also running out of steam by late 1998/early 1999 and he was starting to get booed and then his heel turn didn't help much. If he was going to win the world title it should have been 1997 when he was at his hottest. I always thought he could have got the reign that Luger got.
Nash wasn't a bad choice in theory. Since forming the Wolfpack he was super over and it was kind of ridiculous how little they did with him for months. He was due a world title push and was out-popping Goldberg at Starrcade and the weeks beforehand. The problem was they couldn't capitalize on his babyface overness because hey turned him heel 8 days after Starrcade and they also didn't do the obvious story once he did turn heel, which was have Goldberg spend months taking out Hall/Luger/Steiner to get to Nash then beat him to even the score then finally the big pay-per-view match with Hogan where he would regain the title. It was such simple booking and they managed to f*** it up. Hogan was somehow a face 2 months after the fingerpoke.
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