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Post by hulksmash87 on Oct 18, 2020 17:56:01 GMT -5
Who should have ended the streak and where? I say ddp at Halloween havoc then Goldberg mows through ww3 to set up a rematch at starrcade and wins then a rubber match at superbrawl
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 18, 2020 20:41:43 GMT -5
Page or Bam Bam Bigelow
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Oct 18, 2020 20:56:10 GMT -5
DDP, Goldberg still wins at Halloween Havoc but DDP wins the World War 3 Battle Royale for the shot at Starrcade.
With them at 1 apiece, Goldberg takes out the hurdles of Hall, Nash & Bam Bam Bigelow while DDP defends against Flair, Luger and Scott Steiner before another match this time at Spring Stampede where Goldberg regains
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Post by Wilfred on Oct 18, 2020 21:09:29 GMT -5
If built up over several months either DDP, Booker T or Scott Steiner. You’d hopefully get a fresh legit top guy out of it the fans would buy. Personally I’d go with Steiner in his crazy Big Poppa Pump persona. Have him obliterate dudes for six months and take down some main event guys like Sting, Luger and The Giant before dethroning Goldberg at Bash at the Beach 99.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 18, 2020 23:45:04 GMT -5
It definitely should have been a new main eventer that would've been elevated by doing it. Goldberg still had plenty of dudes he could to through like Luger and Sting before dropping the belt. So you could build up someone like Steiner and give him a run as a main event heel and then you have a million directions you can go in. Basically, don't do what they did.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 19, 2020 2:33:53 GMT -5
Nash was the right guy to do it, they just went about it horribly and at the wrong time
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Post by CeilingFan on Oct 19, 2020 4:55:14 GMT -5
Booker T
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 19, 2020 4:59:29 GMT -5
I think choosing a guy is missing the wood for the trees.
They did it in a dumb way and too early. Nash was plenty over for it. It was just the wrong time and means.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 19, 2020 7:16:05 GMT -5
Gotta go with other: Booker T. Booker already had the in ring ability and charisma to move up the ladder, and the pedigree as a multi time tv and tag team champion to be built into a credible challenger. It would have made a perfect, underdog overcoming the odds story. But that skid relies on Goldberg’s run as champion being longer.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 19, 2020 8:34:23 GMT -5
I'll say Page, but Nah *could* have worked had they not done the fingerpoke nonsense.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 19, 2020 9:19:24 GMT -5
Gotta go with other: Booker T. Booker already had the in ring ability and charisma to move up the ladder, and the pedigree as a multi time tv and tag team champion to be built into a credible challenger. It would have made a perfect, underdog overcoming the odds story. But that skid relies on Goldberg’s run as champion being longer. Agreed. A new top guy who had years left in the tank. DDP would have been elevated but he really had only a few good years left. A strong showing like he had at Havoc would elevate him enough to get what you could have out of him. But Booker could have been a long term top guy who could have been a heel or face when he beat Goldberg.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 19, 2020 9:48:34 GMT -5
Gotta go with other: Booker T. Booker already had the in ring ability and charisma to move up the ladder, and the pedigree as a multi time tv and tag team champion to be built into a credible challenger. It would have made a perfect, underdog overcoming the odds story. But that skid relies on Goldberg’s run as champion being longer. Agreed. A new top guy who had years left in the tank. DDP would have been elevated but he really had only a few good years left. A strong showing like he had at Havoc would elevate him enough to get what you could have out of him. But Booker could have been a long term top guy who could have been a heel or face when he beat Goldberg. In my personal alternate history universe, Goldberg slowly dismantles the NWO one by one on the climb up to be #1 contender to win the title from Hogan in PPV. After successful defenses against DDP and Nash, he continues to defend against the old guard like Bam Bam, Hall, Sting, and Flair while the young lions like Benoit, Guerrero, and Booker start getting groomed to move up. The NWO is quietly dissolved, Nash and Hall reform The Outsiders and go on to feud with Hogan and Steiner, as the one remaining NWO loyalist to stick by Hogan, with both sides blaming the other for the end of the NWO. Goldberg then eventually drops the belt to one of those young lions, officially launching the next era for WCW.
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Post by Tenshigure on Oct 19, 2020 10:09:33 GMT -5
It should've been DDP, and it should've been right after a second Diamond Cutter after this one: Seriously, go rewatch this match and tell me how that wouldn't have been so much better of an ending than what we got (and I say this as a huge Goldberg fan back in the day).
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Post by thecrusherwi on Oct 19, 2020 10:09:54 GMT -5
Nash was the right guy to do it, they just went about it horribly and at the wrong time Agreed. Nash was probably the most over guy in the company by Starrcade. He should've broken the streak. I think they even could've had the match go down as it did, but stretch the Nash heel turn out much longer. You could have Nash pleading ignorance and having he and Goldberg teaming up against Bigelow and the reformed NWO (Hall, Steiner, Luger, etc) for a few months and have a bunch of suspicious things happen that make it look like Nash might be on the NWO side. I would have Nash just about prove that he was genuinely not involved and THEN have him turn heel - maybe 4-6 months down the road.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 19, 2020 10:49:53 GMT -5
I'll say Page, but Nah *could* have worked had they not done the fingerpoke nonsense. I think EVEN then, it could have been salvageable. Make that the tipping point where Goldberg isn't f***ing around anymore. You do the fingerpoke, do the beatdown, all 800 nWo members in the ring. Next week opens, the "elite" nWo arrives, joking and laughing. You've got Hall, Nash, Hogan, Luger, Steiner, Bagwell, they come into the nWo locker room, it's a murder scene, the lights take a second to flicker on, the entire b-team is laid out, through tables, in lockers just carnage with "WHO'S NEXT?" spraypainted on the wall. Cut to the ring, this was Paul Wight's last night, so have Goldberg drag him out to the ring, spear him a couple of times, if he can Jackhammer him and he's never seen again, he grabs a mic, yells "I'm coming for you Hogan" and storms off to the back. Over the night, the nWo starts running, but at various turns, babyface members of the locker room come out, DDP takes Hall, Sting gets Nash, Booker gets Steiner, Flair gets Luger and Konnan gets Bagwell. Hogan makes it to a limo, but Goldberg grabs a motorcycle and heads off into the night after him. Souled Out, you have those matches booked. Bagwell beats Konnan through interference from Scott, so the other matches, all the babyface team come down to ringside the rest of the night. Lugar beats Flair clean, Steiner gets DQ'd to save his TV title, DDP and Sting win. Main event, Hogan comes down, but it immediately turns into a schmoz ending. Next Nitro, Hogan laughs that Goldberg lost, he's back of the line. Goldberg comes out and says he's still coming and he'll take down every single nWo member to do it. Hogan laughs and says fine, calling out the returning B-Team, but no one comes out, there's pretape of team WCW looking at them, Goldberg steps forward and they all quit. Over the next month, on Nitro, Goldberg beats Bagwell and Steiner, the other team WCW members have mini feuds with the nWo. Just before the PPV, Konnan is put on the shelf, the cliffhanger going into Superbrawl is the nWo having taken out one of the good guys. Superbrawl, Goldberg responds by just crushing Lugar. Next night, it's set up, it's down to 5 on 5, they don't need any rules, the next match will work best... Uncensored War Games. If the nWo win, all the WCW team is fired, WCW win, the nWo is gone. Naturally, team WCW win, Booker getting the win over Nash while Goldberg is wailing on Hogan on the outside. He's destroyed the nWo, now there's nothing in his way, Spring Stampede, Hogan v Goldberg 2. Goldberg wins basically a squash. From there, I'd have him give Booker a shot at Slamboree, since he got the win at Uncensored. I would do a f*** finish here, Nash coming out and helping Goldberg win without his knowledge. Then, as the only person to beat Goldberg, they have unfinished business for The Great American Bash. Booker takes on Hall and accompanies Goldberg, getting the rub helping prevent interference and setting up another match for them later. The nWo guys can gradually return in other gimmicks and alliances. I'd keep the Outsiders and Steiner/Bagwell together. Maybe rebuild the Tag division with them facing Raven/Saturn, the Horsemen, Rey/Kidman and the West Texas Rednecks.
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Post by wrestlingrecap on Oct 19, 2020 11:04:29 GMT -5
Scott Steiner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 11:43:51 GMT -5
Putting it on Page looks good in hindsight and I love the Havoc match but having watched a lot of 98/99 recently his babyface act was really starting to get stale, the Hollywood Scum/Hitscum/Giant Scum/Big Poppa Scum promos were really cheesy and he was forced to go heel once the fans turned on him during the Steiner feud.
I would have kept it on Goldberg until business (not ratings) started slowing, he still had yet to face Bret/Flair/Luger/Savage/Steiner plus rematches with the main eventers he'd already beat.
If you had to take it off him Steiner would have been a good choice but his back was really messed up at the time, he missed 4 months in 98 with it and after Slamboree 99 his next match was the night after Uncensored 2000.
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Post by MentalMidget on Oct 20, 2020 0:43:48 GMT -5
If it was up to me, Raven would have ended the streak.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 20, 2020 0:47:48 GMT -5
I would have had no qualms with Booker, DDP or a better booked Nash ending the streak, but I was always convinced they should have strapped up Benoit and elevated him. Just an all out war with both men kicking the ever living shit out of each other and Benoit finding a way to counter the Jackhammer into a Crippler Crossface. I wouldn’t have made Goldberg tap but copying the Raven match finish and having him pass out would have been perfect.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Oct 21, 2020 11:16:07 GMT -5
Goldberg should have been undefeated for a while longer.
My option - some uber technical worker underdog - Chris Benoit or Bret Hart in the summer of 1999.
Edit - didn't even read the above post saying the same lol.
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