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Joe Buck
Oct 20, 2020 23:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 20, 2020 23:51:04 GMT -5
He gets paid alot of money as a lead announcer by Fox for 2 sports. Most seem to hate him so what good is he?
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Joe Buck
Oct 21, 2020 1:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by sfvega on Oct 21, 2020 1:23:17 GMT -5
He's not a bad baseball announcer, just a bad football announcer. He gets the prime position from his last name and his ability to schmooze TV execs. If he stuck to baseball and didn't try his hand so much at dry stand-up comedy during the game, he would be a perfectly passable (or good, even) 1st team network baseball announcer.
Meanwhile in football, there is no real explaining how he got to where he is. He should not have become the youngest network NFL announcer ever at 25, nor the network #1 NFL announcer at 32. It took easily better announcers much longer to get lead NFL roles (Ex: Enberg at 44) back when the jobs were less competitive, and there aren't really any comparables for guys as young as him getting those roles these days. There isn't really an argument for how he got to where he is as an NFL announcer on merit, even if I can get past not liking him personally.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 21, 2020 6:39:40 GMT -5
He's about the safest choice for an announcer. Safest means he's putting zero risk into what he does and says. Which tends to err on the side of boring. But then again, his company knows he's not going to say something that gets them in hot water. He has a famous and well liked pedigree. He looks good in a suit. Somebody needs to clean up the drool when Aikman is doing Cowboy Games.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 22, 2020 12:22:06 GMT -5
The weird thing with Buck is outside the commentary booth, is that he's a very personable and funny guy. I love the crazy stories he tells when he's being interviewed by the likes of Michael Kay or Dan Le Batard.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 22, 2020 13:03:07 GMT -5
He's not a bad commentator. I just always get annoyed when he finds one story to latch on and WON'T shut up about it.
In the 2016 World Series, he couldn't go half an inning without talking about Kyle Schwarber's life. Last year, even as a Nats fan, I got sick of him talking about Juan Soto's age. Like, we know he was only 20 and what he did was insane but there's other stuff to talk about.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 22, 2020 13:42:07 GMT -5
The weird thing with Buck is outside the commentary booth, is that he's a very personable and funny guy. I love the crazy stories he tells when he's being interviewed by the likes of Michael Kay or Dan Le Batard. Buck is a gem when he's getting interviewed. I've often wondered if Joe Buck and Micheal Cole are kinda playing the same position in their effective industries. Kinda boring and corporate shills that are always the SAFE choice during a live broadcast, but when you get them outside of that position they show they are pretty cool and funny.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 22, 2020 14:23:14 GMT -5
The weird thing with Buck is outside the commentary booth, is that he's a very personable and funny guy. I love the crazy stories he tells when he's being interviewed by the likes of Michael Kay or Dan Le Batard. Buck is a gem when he's getting interviewed. I've often wondered if Joe Buck and Micheal Cole are kinda playing the same position in their effective industries. Kinda boring and corporate shills that are always the SAFE choice during a live broadcast, but when you get them outside of that position they show they are pretty cool and funny. Yeah, he told this story on the Dan LeBatard Show about eating edibles in Mexico and I was in tears from laughter.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Oct 22, 2020 15:17:21 GMT -5
....I like Joe Buck....
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Post by BRV on Oct 22, 2020 15:36:32 GMT -5
I've said it time and again about Joe Buck, but the hate he receives on a national level is based on what he was like as a broadcaster almost a decade ago, which people just absolutely refuse to get over.
There's an article on The Ringer about the early days of NFL on FOX and Buck explains that, when he ascended to the network's lead team, he tried too hard to replicate the legendary Pat Summerall, but since he's not Summerall in personality or voice characteristics, it failed him miserably.
That perfectly explains why he sounded so unenthusiastic for basically the entirety of the first decade of the century, because he was copying Summerall's minimalist tone. Buck's infamous call of the David Tyree catch from Super Bowl XLII sounds underwhelming because he's calling it the way Summerall would have called it. Don't believe me? Go back and watch the end of Super Bowl XXXVI. Summerall almost sounds bored when calling Adam Vinatieri's game-winning field goal, but that's just the tone he always took as a play-by-play man.
Since Buck became himself and found his own voice, somewhere around 2010 or 2011, he's become one of the very best broadcasters in all of sports yet he still gets his share of vitriol directed at him because of how he handled the early half of the 2000s. He's easily become one of the best play-by-play men in not one, but two major pro sports, and while it took some growing pains for about eight or nine years, he doesn't deserve the hate that's constantly spewed his way any time he's seen on Sunday afternoons.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 22, 2020 16:07:07 GMT -5
The funny thing is with the main Fox NFL commentary team, I used to dislike Buck, but liked Aikman. Now my opinions of the two have done a 180. I generally like Buck more than not with NFL games these days while Aikman annoys me.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Oct 22, 2020 16:07:51 GMT -5
I've said it time and again about Joe Buck, but the hate he receives on a national level is based on what he was like as a broadcaster almost a decade ago, which people just absolutely refuse to get over. There's an article on The Ringer about the early days of NFL on FOX and Buck explains that, when he ascended to the network's lead team, he tried too hard to replicate the legendary Pat Summerall, but since he's not Summerall in personality or voice characteristics, it failed him miserably. That perfectly explains why he sounded so unenthusiastic for basically the entirety of the first decade of the century, because he was copying Summerall's minimalist tone. Buck's infamous call of the David Tyree catch from Super Bowl XLII sounds underwhelming because he's calling it the way Summerall would have called it. Don't believe me? Go back and watch the end of Super Bowl XXXVI. Summerall almost sounds bored when calling Adam Vinatieri's game-winning field goal, but that's just the tone he always took as a play-by-play man. Since Buck became himself and found his own voice, somewhere around 2010 or 2011, he's become one of the very best broadcasters in all of sports yet he still gets his share of vitriol directed at him because of how he handled the early half of the 2000s. He's easily become one of the best play-by-play men in not one, but two major pro sports, and while it took some growing pains for about eight or nine years, he doesn't deserve the hate that's constantly spewed his way any time he's seen on Sunday afternoons. I disagree. He's not actively bad but he's not good.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Oct 22, 2020 22:12:10 GMT -5
He's Michael Cole.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Oct 23, 2020 9:09:56 GMT -5
I don't think he's as bad as everyone says he is. There's much better at the job but I would not call Joe awful. Honestly I think Aikman is the worst of the two on NFL and Buck is not bad at baseball when he's not bias.
I do get tired of "pass issssssss caught". and 90% of Aikman's commentary is "_____ doing well" or "_____ has done a heck of a job."
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Joe Buck
Oct 23, 2020 12:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 12:33:53 GMT -5
He's alright, Aikman is the one who drags them down. He's dull and always sounds like he'd rather be anywhere else. And his fake chuckle chips away at my soul.
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Oct 23, 2020 16:32:25 GMT -5
As well stated in this thread, he's way too buttoned up and never seems to have fun or the rock the boat. But he has been saddled with some bad partners, too.
All in all, Buck pales in comparison in all aspects to Jim Nantz.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Oct 26, 2020 14:14:35 GMT -5
the sound of the boos from the crowd at Wrigley the night the Cubs won the pennant when they were doing presentations on the field and the announcer went "and now here's Joe Buck" would make Vickie Guerrero go "damn, thats some heel heat" this amazing moment of the cubs finally going to a world series again went from overjoy to sounding like a vacuum cleaner went off
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 17:31:30 GMT -5
I thought his call of the Cubs World Series win was perfect.
"It's over! And the Cubs...have finally won it all"
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 27, 2020 21:53:04 GMT -5
The only thing I hate is when he sucks off Aaron Rogers like he’s on the Packers payroll. But then again that’s every announcer.
-Sincerly, a Lions fan
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Post by Cyno on Oct 27, 2020 22:24:40 GMT -5
Today's the anniversary of one of the great calls Joe got to make.
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 2, 2020 1:24:10 GMT -5
He does a great job.
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