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Post by thechase on Jan 3, 2022 4:21:38 GMT -5
When characters 'die' in Modern Who, it's always under conditions which leave them better off than they would otherwise be. Rose-publicly deceased on her world, but thriving with a Meta-Crisis clone of The Doctor in another Amy-Lived happily ever after to death in another time Clara-Destined to return to Trap Street only after an indefinite period of exploring the universe. Bill Potts- Converted into a Mondassian Cyberman but restored to a living body by her tear duct girlfriend and explores the universe with her, later returns to Earth after breaking up with her. Whatever they do, it'll be unsatisfactory and likely left to Big Finish to clean up later Big Finish really aren't that good at what they do anymore and their direction as of late has been pretty messy. Instead of cleaning up the parts of canon that aren't fleshed out on television, they're just throwing random bits of canon together because of 'timey whimey' reasons, hoping something sticks. Nothing they do has cohesion now.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 3, 2022 16:03:08 GMT -5
I liked Eve a bunch, probably top three Jodie. Good energy, good character beats, funny bits. And having a small cast and one location gave it better focus and space to breathe than usual in this era. Aisling Bea was delightful.
Some flaws, falls apart a bit logistically by the last two or three iterations and Nick written a bit too creepily (thankfully not in performance), but good stuff.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 3, 2022 17:50:01 GMT -5
I liked it, but a time loop story is pretty hard to get me not to like.
Aisling Bea was amazing.
But damn that dialogue, this is the first time I've really noticed a writer's voice and how much it grates on me, his way of getting through themes and exposition, just can't listen to them.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 5, 2022 17:57:01 GMT -5
New doctor due soon. Regal suddenly available. It's meant to be.
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Post by cosmo on Jan 5, 2022 18:05:32 GMT -5
New doctor due soon. Regal suddenly available. It's meant to be.
I'm imagining something similar to this...
...but instead of a TARDIS key appearing in the Doctor's hand, it's brass knuckles.
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Post by Oakster on Jan 5, 2022 18:41:48 GMT -5
New doctor due soon. Regal suddenly available. It's meant to be.
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Post by thechase on Jan 23, 2022 13:47:16 GMT -5
So, big rumour circulating from credible sources and the tabloids that Jodie will regenerate into {Spoiler}Tennant again.
Apparently he's only locked in for three anniversary specials in 2023 before handing over to a new Doctor believed to be Lydia West
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Post by Legion on Jan 23, 2022 16:41:29 GMT -5
So, big rumour circulating from credible sources and the tabloids that Jodie will regenerate into {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Tennant again.
Apparently he's only locked in for three anniversary specials in 2023 before handing over to a new Doctor believed to be Lydia West I can see the desire to reignite interest with the first bit, but the second bit is too young and will have all the same divisiveness that just created the toxicity that drove viewers away this time. I think it's time for the show to go away for an extended break again.
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Post by Flo360 on Jan 23, 2022 18:02:40 GMT -5
So, big rumour circulating from credible sources and the tabloids that Jodie will regenerate into {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Tennant again.
Apparently he's only locked in for three anniversary specials in 2023 before handing over to a new Doctor believed to be Lydia West I can see the desire to reignite interest with the first bit, but the second bit is too young and will have all the same divisiveness that just created the toxicity that drove viewers away this time. I think it's time for the show to go away for an extended break again. 1. People need to stop pretending 5 Million Season Average in 2021 is not WAY above average. 2. Casting the first is a really stupid Idea. 3. Casting the Second makes sense and should be Fun. And honestly? The few People for whom this would be a dealbreakern, can go watch some Chris Nolan Movies till their breathing calms down.
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Post by thechase on Jan 24, 2022 9:55:00 GMT -5
So, big rumour circulating from credible sources and the tabloids that Jodie will regenerate into {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Tennant again.
Apparently he's only locked in for three anniversary specials in 2023 before handing over to a new Doctor believed to be Lydia West the second bit is too young The youth thing won't be an issue, Matt Smith was the youngest of the modern series and helped the Moffat run of the show 'break' into America. As for whether or not that particular actor 'fits' what people are looking for, I know some would rather have a more conventional type, but others would be open to this if there is better writing.
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Post by Legion on Jan 24, 2022 10:03:17 GMT -5
the second bit is too young The youth thing won't be an issue, Matt Smith was the youngest of the modern series and helped the Moffat run of the show 'break' into America. As for whether or not that particular actor 'fits' what people are looking for, I know some would rather have a more conventional type, but others would be open to this if there is better writing. Yeah, I think there is the chance to use that actor to appeal to a new audience and grow it, as long as people are willing to try - but I think Who has a very verbal, very passionate fan base that'd rather spike the show than see things not go their way, and that controversy can drive people away as they listen to Twitter rather than try for themselves. I'll always try, but coincidentally, I also disliked Matt Smith for being too young. To me, I like an older Doctor. In those moments when the Doctor needs to get serious and shouty, I feel that works better if you've got an older actor doing it. I'd have actually quite liked to see Jo Martin actually get a series for that reason, perfect age, perfect presence - good opportunity to retcon some of the last eras confusing mess.
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Post by thechase on Jan 24, 2022 11:03:07 GMT -5
The youth thing won't be an issue, Matt Smith was the youngest of the modern series and helped the Moffat run of the show 'break' into America. As for whether or not that particular actor 'fits' what people are looking for, I know some would rather have a more conventional type, but others would be open to this if there is better writing. I also disliked Matt Smith for being too young. I liked Smith fine in his first series, but the more Moffat deteriorated in writing, Smith got worse in performance.
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Post by Legion on Jan 24, 2022 11:24:56 GMT -5
I also disliked Matt Smith for being too young. I liked Smith fine in his first series, but the more Moffat deteriorated in writing, Smith got worse in performance. I just always thought he had a really punchable face, and it just got worse when he acted angry. He has the same issue in everything I see him in though! Just a really weird smug smile he does when angry that comes off petulant more than angry.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 24, 2022 15:57:48 GMT -5
Smith has two sides, for me.
That strange old man in a strange young man's body. He's like this for all of Series 5
And then there's what I call the "WAHAAAAY! I'M THE DOCTOR!" period. This mugging, yelling idiot, high on himself, that he doesn't really shake until near the end of Series 7.
Odd exception aside, such as The Doctor's Wife or The God Complex, he's fantastic there.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 24, 2022 17:34:54 GMT -5
I loved Smith.
Even at good full cat in the hat mode. I still felt he pulled off tired old man pretending to be young.
That said saw unsourced "rumors" they may not give Jodie a regen scene which sucks cause problems I've had with recent who have never been on the person playing the Doctor and more the writing around them failing them.
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Post by Burst on Jan 24, 2022 17:55:44 GMT -5
That said saw unsourced "rumors" they may not give Jodie a regen scene which sucks cause problems I've had with recent who have never been on the person playing the Doctor and the writing around them. This has been one of my biggest pet peeves both from the fandom and fan dumb approach to Who and also seemingly the Beeb's approach to said fan criticism... the latter of which always seems to fall back into "You know what'll appeal to audiences? A younger Doctor with a spunky modern (female) British companion!" One thing I'll definitely give Jodie's series credit for is at least trying to shake up the modern Who companion formula.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 24, 2022 18:02:47 GMT -5
I think Smith and Capaldi both had issues where the writing did let them down at points, but Capaldi had the advantage of being a more experienced actor that could more readily overcome that by sheer force of performance. Series 8 especially would have been even more hit-and-miss if not for the nuances and elements he brought to the 12th Doctor that at least made him mostly compelling if not always consistent.
Honestly, regardless of which actor/actress is cast as the next Doctor, I am hopeful that RTD will be able to get the most out of them in terms of performance. Ten had his own issues in terms of writing, but Davies and the writing team of that era did consistently give Tennant something to sink his teeth into.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 24, 2022 18:23:47 GMT -5
Smith was legit my favorite Doctor, so a younger Doctor would be fine by me. I think his youthful appearance was fun since it hide the old mind he has. The crossover with Ten was a good example. Tries to be goofy and act like he looks and then when confronted with his awful past he is forced to acknowledge just how old and how much he had done.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jan 24, 2022 18:44:58 GMT -5
That said saw unsourced "rumors" they may not give Jodie a regen scene which sucks cause problems I've had with recent who have never been on the person playing the Doctor and the writing around them. It's Colin Baker all over again!
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Post by Flo360 on Jan 25, 2022 3:52:28 GMT -5
That said saw unsourced "rumors" they may not give Jodie a regen scene which sucks cause problems I've had with recent who have never been on the person playing the Doctor and more the writing around them failing them. Besides these rumors coming from a really bad place. (Not just the Mirror and the Sun, but like mentally) These Rumors also come from a place which clearly doesn't understand the first thing about marketing. The BBC decided to include that particular episode in their centenary celebrations. Thus the Episode will be filled to the brim with elements, which the general public recognises not only a typically Doctor Who, but ideally as something special within Doctor Who. So just as sure as there will be Daleks, Cybermen and more comedy than usual, there will be a Regeneration. It is just very basic understanding, about who(sic) might be watching here. (This is also the same reason, that these Elements make up much of the Christmas Specials.)
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