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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 11, 2020 13:55:37 GMT -5
Shame. Again, I felt it was the better show. However, still again, AEW isn't going to lose to NXT. It has momentum, it has some freshness and it has some rabid fans that are really pimping it hard everywhere. NXT does have the freshness, but it's momentum is stalled by still being seen as the recruitment brand and it doesnt have the same level of fandom. Plus the vein of WWE hate that exists now hits all WWE shows, even the good ones. NXT is just there to stop AEW getting too big while trying to make AEW look small time by being against the C show, and while it's working for now, I doubt it will work forever and that's a real disservice to the NXT cast. The problem frankly boils down to advertising. WWE almost never plugs NXT on RAW or SD. Because god forbid we don't have our sixth recap of an event that happened an hour ago. Also in the case of NXT, you could see it after Takeover but there were quite a few bad faith arguments against it online. Just look at WOR for a good example of it. Their entire schtick now is NXT bad, AEW good. Women not withstanding, NXT is in a weird situation. I feel like there are a lot of acts that they want to get over in NXT that just are not catching on like they hope. Thatcher continues to be the easy target based on ratings but I feel that a lot of acts that even here people generally like just are not clicking. Now this has happened in NXT before and that should be expected if the goal is to use it as a developmental brand. But right now with them kind of stuck between wanting to do that but also steal viewers from AEW it seems like things are half baked. Not that the wrestling isn't great because it is, it just feels like they know who they want to develop but they don't know what they want to do.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 11, 2020 14:07:37 GMT -5
NXT's identity crisis between being a true developmental brand and Triple H's Super Indy is not a new one. It's been going on since at least the first Takeover. It's just more pronounced now as it's on national TV and with the Florida loop being affected by the pandemic.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 11, 2020 14:10:17 GMT -5
NXT's identity crisis between being a true developmental brand and Triple H's Super Indy is not a new one. It's been going on since at least the first Takeover. It's just more pronounced now as it's on national TV and with the Florida loop being affected by the pandemic. That’s another thing... OK, so some acts aren’t working out, but these are ostensibly the best of what’s available to them. Who do you replace them with? Some more greenhorns from the PC or main roster talents?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 11, 2020 14:29:19 GMT -5
NXT's identity crisis between being a true developmental brand and Triple H's Super Indy is not a new one. It's been going on since at least the first Takeover. It's just more pronounced now as it's on national TV and with the Florida loop being affected by the pandemic. I do think that is where Dusty is missed with NXT. Every wrestler who was in NXT with them talked about how much his promo classes helped with finding and developing characters. I will also maintain that the decision to go for a quick ratings bump to rush Lee vs Cole and then again rush Lee vs Kross to get Lee to Raw cost NXT about 6 to 9 months of good programs. I think that time could have been used to help develop some of the acts they want over rather than scramble like I feel they have with the men for the last couple months
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Post by Cyno on Dec 11, 2020 14:47:42 GMT -5
NXT's identity crisis between being a true developmental brand and Triple H's Super Indy is not a new one. It's been going on since at least the first Takeover. It's just more pronounced now as it's on national TV and with the Florida loop being affected by the pandemic. That’s another thing... OK, so some acts aren’t working out, but these are ostensibly the best of what’s available to them. Who do you replace them with? Some more greenhorns from the PC or main roster talents? This is where you treat the developmental brand like a developmental brand and, well, develop them. Push them down the card so they aren't your featured players, but give them the opportunity and practice to iron out the bad and reinforce the good. Otherwise, you just have to accept as the developmental brand that there's going to be a lot of turnover as the best rise to the main roster and the talent that takes their spot will be raw (pun not intended).
Unfortunately, this is likely at odds with what's expected out of them from WWE top brass and USA since they got the TV deal. The goals of a developmental brand (or rather, what one should be) aren't necessarily compatible with being cannon fodder in an unnecessary ratings war.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 18:58:11 GMT -5
The good news is that other than the second quarter the demo remained relatively stable. That's certainly better than continuously bleeding out.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 11, 2020 19:27:20 GMT -5
Jake Atlas looks at Thatcher’s 50,000 person weekly exodus and says, “Pft, Dawg I can triple that.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 19:43:24 GMT -5
That might be the wildest four quarter flucation I have seen in quite sometime.
What is clear no one wanted to stick around once Jake Atlas showed up or just cruiserweights in general and forever consistent the women (no surprise Io is here) bring the show strongly back up.
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