DQed for kicking too much ass.

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I'll give you Rock / Ken Shamrock at Mania 14, that was awesome. Besides that, has this finish ever f***ing worked?

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For the sake of clarity, a LOT of these are for not acknowledging the referee’s five count and breaking when an opponent is tied up in the ropes. Very few of them are literally because of “kicking too much ass”.

[Venti]

I liked when they did the "if you're DQed you lose the title" stip with Orton vs Christian.

Christian spit in Randy's face, and Randy got so pissed off and got himself disqualified by beating up Christian in the corner, thus giving Christian the belt.

Great heel win.

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Finlay's WWE debut was pretty good iirc

[Chiral]

The problem a lot of the time in WWE it'll just be for them doing punches and stomps in the corner, so it doesn't look any different from when they do punches and stomps in the corner and don't get DQ'd.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Remember that big tag gauntlet match with Bryan and Roman vs a bunch of tag teams, which included the Ascension getting DQed for beating up Bryan/Romey Rome too much?

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Dec 11, 2020 23:25:24 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Remember that big tag gauntlet match with Bryan and Roman vs a bunch of tag teams, which included the Ascension getting DQed for beating up Bryan/Romey Rome too much?

See, now that’s more along the lines of what’s being suggested in this thread, but watching it back, I’d have to assume it was for too much double-teaming of the legal man (which is a thing, which why they have the five count when someone tags in but the guy tagging out is still on offense). Commentary did not make that clear, and neither did the referee.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

Big Show vs Brock where Brock lays into Big Show with a f***ing chair for about ten minutes until Big Show's a big horrible crying mess of shit on the floor covered in welts just motionless and Brock having kicked too much Big Show ass was DQ'd, in an unfair decision. ****3/4

[Shark]

Dec 11, 2020 22:41:38 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I'll give you Rock / Ken Shamrock at Mania 14, that was awesome. Besides that, has this finish ever f***ing worked?

Can't even give you that one. It worked for sure, but Shamrock wasn't DQed for "kicking too much ass". He won the match, then it was reversed when he held the ankle lock too long after the bell and attacked referees and officials.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

The problem is the uneven enforcement of the rules. I've seen plenty of people get destroyed in the corner for more than five seconds. Another example is their rule where you get DQed if the illegal man in a tag match touches the legal man. It happened in that first Retribution match with Lashley but that literally happens in almost every tag match and never gets called.

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Said it in the live thread, will say it here, WWE's overuse of DQs and F*** finishes have spent me so badly that when another company has more lenient refs who don't DQ off the drop of a hat, it just feels really refreshing that finishes actually happen...

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Dec 11, 2020 23:08:38 GMT -5 Venti said:

I liked when they did the "if you're DQed you lose the title" stip with Orton vs Christian.

Christian spit in Randy's face, and Randy got so pissed off and got himself disqualified by beating up Christian in the corner, thus giving Christian the belt.

Great heel win.

He was DQ'd for kicking Christian in the balls though, in response to Christian spitting on him, which is a correct DQ.

[Mozenrath]

The absolute worst was Seth Rollins in the Cell, obviously.

The biggest issue is, referees are humans and the rules tend to be plastic enough that you can forgive inconsistencies sometimes. It happens. It just is so very often poorly conveyed why it happens when it does. It also is something commentary should acknowledge properly. Is a ref decision atypical? Say that. Don't fib to us about it.

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Dec 12, 2020 4:31:41 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

The absolute worst was Seth Rollins in the Cell, obviously.

The biggest issue is, referees are humans and the rules tend to be plastic enough that you can forgive inconsistencies sometimes. It happens. It just is so very often poorly conveyed why it happens when it does. It also is something commentary should acknowledge properly. Is a ref decision atypical? Say that. Don't fib to us about it.

I mean, you bring up Hell In A Cell, and they got real weird with it so badly its almost killed the concept as a whole. If you’re gonna book those finishes, at least explain why it’s the case, instead of leaving people frustrated at A) WWE not waiting for Reigns and Strowman to get their bearings and continue the match after Lesnar laid them out and B) WWE not allowing Rollins to literally MURDER The Fiend just because the match has “no rules”.

[Mozenrath]

Dec 12, 2020 5:00:40 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Dec 12, 2020 4:31:41 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

The absolute worst was Seth Rollins in the Cell, obviously.

The biggest issue is, referees are humans and the rules tend to be plastic enough that you can forgive inconsistencies sometimes. It happens. It just is so very often poorly conveyed why it happens when it does. It also is something commentary should acknowledge properly. Is a ref decision atypical? Say that. Don't fib to us about it.

I mean, you bring up Hell In A Cell, and they got real weird with it so badly its almost killed the concept as a whole. If you’re gonna book those finishes, at least explain why it’s the case, instead of leaving people frustrated at A) WWE not waiting for Reigns and Strowman to get their bearings and continue the match after Lesnar laid them out and B) WWE not allowing Rollins to literally MURDER The Fiend just because the match has “no rules”.

There's no saving how they did it, but you figure if they insisted on a red cage and lighting, they could at least do something with the fact the audience could hardly even see in the ring. Have the Fiend or Seth throw a fireball, accidentally hitting the ref and the match ends due to that, him being on fire.

It's still a really stupid ending, but at least that'd be chaos enough to end a Hell in a Cell match without a winner, if their hearts were so set on that.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Dec 12, 2020 4:31:41 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

The absolute worst was Seth Rollins in the Cell, obviously.

The biggest issue is, referees are humans and the rules tend to be plastic enough that you can forgive inconsistencies sometimes. It happens. It just is so very often poorly conveyed why it happens when it does. It also is something commentary should acknowledge properly. Is a ref decision atypical? Say that. Don't fib to us about it.

That's not even getting into how the WWE Twitter account ran that poll asking what the decision would be, and the options were Pinfall, Submission, or Disqualification. Which immediately got people thinking that there would be a DQ, and when Seth delivered the final blow with the referee begging him not to, what else would you think it was? Had they used "Knockout" as the third option, people would have been more likely to interpret the finish correctly.

[Triangle Lancer]

It's a much more succinct (and fun) way to say "DQed for kicking too much ass" than say "DQed because he wouldn't heed the referee's constant pleas to let the man out of the corner/ignoring the five count". (When you're slouched against the turnbuckle pads, you're technically "in the ropes" and your opponent must give you the proper room to come out.)

Andre the Giant would do the same type of thing with a choke in the corner, but what he did would never be considered "DQed for kicking too much ass". It only applies when there's a lot of action.

Hoped that clears things up.