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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 15, 2020 23:49:09 GMT -5
The Wrestlemania 2 thread got to me thinking how do the early Starrcades and Wrestlemania. Before Wrestlemania III changed the game or PPV became the main source of showing these cards.
In terms of production values the early Wrestlemanias are way better, even though Wrestlemania 2 had its problems.
Top to bottom of the cards, Starracde 1983 is probably the weakest. It picks up the second half of the card, but for its time it is probably better than what before it. But in term of entertainment value top to bottom, Starrcade 1984 is better than Wrestlemania 1, and Starrcade 1985 is better than Wrestlemania 2, heck Starrcade 85 is better all 6 of these cards.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Dec 16, 2020 1:33:02 GMT -5
I must have watched Starrcade 1985 a hundred times.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 16, 2020 4:35:40 GMT -5
Both events felt like "3rd time's the charm".
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Post by toodarkmark on Dec 16, 2020 10:01:56 GMT -5
Mid-Atlantic 1985 is as good as wrestling has ever been. Starrcade 1985 was the culmination of Dusty's grand vision, and one of the best shows of all time.
I did not enjoy 86 as much, but it was ok. Great American Bash 86 and 87 VHSs were far more entertaining to me. Starrcade 1987 is maddening, because if they had just done a few things here and there (stayed in NC, no bad finishes) it could have been an amazing card. I still fantasy book it when I think about it. How do you not have the Road Warriors do a clean finish over the Horsemen for the titles in Chicago? HOW?!?
Wrestlemania 1, 2 and 4 didn't do it for me. 3 was a classic.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 16, 2020 14:31:15 GMT -5
I will say this: it's a shame the Midnight Express never got a straight up tag team match (playa) to show their talents. Every one other than the MX vs. OMX was a gimmick match that held them back somewhat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 17:17:07 GMT -5
Those Flair/Dusty main events kill those early StarrCades for me. Yeah, I know, but I hate them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 15:47:55 GMT -5
To me, pretty much every Starrcade and every WM pre-17 are hit or miss shows. Each one has at least one classic match, but they certainly aren't great by today's standards start to finish.
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Post by corndog on Dec 17, 2020 17:40:56 GMT -5
The Wrestlemania 2 thread got to me thinking how do the early Starrcades and Wrestlemania. Before Wrestlemania III changed the game or PPV became the main source of showing these cards. In terms of production values the early Wrestlemanias are way better, even though Wrestlemania 2 had its problems. Top to bottom of the cards, Starracde 1983 is probably the weakest. It picks up the second half of the card, but for its time it is probably better than what before it. But in term of entertainment value top to bottom, Starrcade 1984 is better than Wrestlemania 1, and Starrcade 1985 is better than Wrestlemania 2, heck Starrcade 85 is better all 6 of these cards. I agree with most of this, but Starrcade '83 is definitely better than Wrestlemania 1 and maybe even two. The dog collar match between Valentine and Piper was just sheer brutality, the Briscoes vs Youngblood/Steamboat was a solid match and to me Flair vs Race was better than all of the Flair/Dusty matches and had more significance due to the passing of the torch. Wrestlemania 1 was garbage, Wrestlemania 2 had it's moments, but Hogan had better title matches on Saturday Night's Main Event during the time period. As far as production values, even the first two Wrestlemanias were better than Starrcade. Although I still think Superstars and Saturday Night's Main Event looked better than those Wrestlemanias of the same time period. Granted, they weren't live, so editing graphics was easier. |
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