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Post by Session Moth is over on Dec 27, 2020 9:24:22 GMT -5
I love this promo. Really set their match up. That line 'sooner or later Brodie Lee is going to cut you down'. Damn I couldn't wait to see that match after that promo. This is wrestling right here. This is everything that makes it the art form it is. You do it in the ring, but what you do outside of the ring is just as big a part of the show.
What a talent and I'm still in shock over this. I just wanted to post this promo.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 27, 2020 9:55:11 GMT -5
F***ing Silver...getting me emotional again.
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Post by government mule on Dec 27, 2020 9:57:46 GMT -5
Awful, awful news. My sincerest condolences to his loved ones in this terrible time.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 27, 2020 10:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:06:56 GMT -5
Okay I had a minor outburst before about how I feel about the business and how depressing it is.
Now that I had a day, well...I am still stunned. Didn't see this coming at all.
I wasn't a BIG fan, but I did like the Wyatt Family of course, and that started the worldbuilding that led to the Firefly Funhouse, which I REALLY like. The faction could have been used better of course.
The Bludgeon Brothers had badass entrance music.
Don't really watch AEW so I missed out on his work on Dark Order.
RIP and I hope his family and friends will be all right. The fact that people like him aren't here (Shad too and many others I can name) and there's loads of scum and nasty people in the business who dodge Karma on a regular basis, well, it makes me feel like I said last night about wanting to quit for good with it all.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:11:09 GMT -5
Holy moly. How? He was a young man. His wife said a Lung Issue, not COVID related. We're unsure of how long he's had the issue or what it specifically was at this time. I wonder which...it couldn't have been cancer as LC doesn't act that quick, or does it? (And if it was, I wouldn't be shocked that we've come to saying "well it was cancer but at least it wasn't Covid" How justified one would be to say that, I honestly don't know. But...it's like post-9/11 when one would say "well it sucks that there was a plane crash/explosion/etc. but at least terrorists had nothing to do with it.") |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:12:23 GMT -5
Hana Kimura and Danny Havoc were also pretty comparable, I would say. Man and those happened this year too... yeah those sucked, Hana's was one of the most heartbreaking wrestling deaths I can think of period. This. And since I don't see bullying and bullies disappearing because of it, that makes it even more tragic. Someone died, no lessons were learned. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Dec 27, 2020 10:13:36 GMT -5
Yeah, if you remember the WM35 Andre, there’s the spot where Harper is suplexing Ali to the outside and Braun Strowman boots him in the chest, and Ali nearly lands on his f***in’ head. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 27, 2020 10:24:41 GMT -5
Really hard to express what a loss this is, both for pro wrestling as an industry and clearly for the people who knew and loved him.
It’s funny to look back at the mid to late aughts in the independent scene: while the rise of people like Samoa Joe, CM Punk, and Bryan Danielson had made it clear that the indies were in a post-Monday Night War renaissance, the usual critiques of the rising talents back then was that they were “too short” or “did too many spots” or whatever.
Well, around that time comes this big, bad looking dude who looks and hits like Bruiser Brody (despite being named for a different Brodie), stands over six and a half feet tall, and yet who can move and keep up with smaller and faster guys like it’s not a problem. From the minute Brodie Lee hit his stride in Chikara and then popped up on the back end of the ROH golden era, he stuck out as someone who almost had to be ticketed to WWE sooner than later, given it was still perceived as the “land of the giants” even then.
I wonder sometimes if Brodie kind of internalized that early on; hearing what kind of guy he was backstage, the quintessential easygoing big dude who has nothing to prove and thus can get along with just about anyone, it makes me wonder if in those early days he thought that, in an industry that often encourages living out an extended adolescence, he kind of had to be a little more mature, not as a stern father figure but as a good-natured big brother. It also seems to have borne out in his family life, given the refrains of how devoted he was to his wife and children and how he seemed to learn so well how to balance being a professional, a friend to his road family, and yet still be a doting father and loving husband.
Like others said, I adored hearing him show up on that New Legacy charity stream; you instantly got a feel for the kind of humor he had and what kind of friend he probably was. He started out sounding like he was just humoring the crew, but it seems to go along with Bray’s description of Brodie having a sarcastic style to his humor. But then it was obvious how he was doing that to get a feel for the room, and then to set up all kinds of good natured jokes and ribs at the expense of his buddies; instantly reminds you of people you know like that who seem a little cold at first, but they’re actually easing you into feeling comfortable around them rather than overwhelming you with outspokenness right off the bat. Then by the end he’s ruining Austin Creed’s Uno hand, donating hundreds of dollars to cancer research, then troll donating small amounts so the stream couldn’t end when the guys intended.
Then you read how he’d talk Becky Lynch “off the ledge” when things weren’t going well for her; how Wyatt foresaw them working as feeble old men to get nostalgia pops for fun in a VFW hall 30 years from now; how Big E wanted a future of regular Sunday dinners with their families; how the Dark Order crew genuinely saw him as a leader and their brother, especially with how much more over some of them have gotten since Brodie’s debut; how the Bucks called his wife “family”; how in a business where backstage camaraderie is so important, this was a guy who genuinely earned his friendships and relationships, and it hits harder.
Like others have said, we’re now in the social media age, and it feels like we know these people better than we actually do. We get attached to our ideas of these public figures, even though increased access doesn’t necessarily translate to transparency...perhaps not so coincidentally, Brodie wasn’t big on sharing his life on social media, hence “you know what that means...”. But in this case, just going by the outpouring from the industry, it seems hard to assume anything else than what we’re being told: that with Brodie Lee, what you saw was what you got, and what you saw was a big guy with a big heart, lots of humor, and talent for days. From the Chikara crew, to golden age ROH, to the past decade of WWE and the birth of AEW, this is a man with connections and memories all across the US wrestling scene since its post-WCW buyout rebirth, and the repercussions of this loss will keep reverberating for awhile. And for us Millenial fans, who ourselves are now in our 30s and pushing 40, it hurts worse to see this happen we literally grew up with, a guy our own age, going in a way that could happen to any of us.
One last note: saw a tweet last night I can’t find now, but Brodie apparently stopped in Jersey City last year to catch a couple shows during The Collective over Wrestlemania weekend. Apparently AIW offered him a free seat to attend; he wanted to pay for admission, but they insisted he accept as their guest. He mostly kept out of sight during the show, but afterward he went up to the promoter, shook his hand, left at least a $100 bill in his grasp, and said “thank you for booking my friends.”
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 27, 2020 10:35:25 GMT -5
Guess 2020 had to get just one more gut punch in huh? This is absolutely shocking and deeply upsetting. Rest in power sir.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:35:28 GMT -5
Wonder if WWE doubles down on explaining that Bray/Fiend really isn't dead because of this.
Because of the former connections, it seems moreso Too Soon to imply this, even if they talk about the character.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:38:17 GMT -5
Guess 2020 had to get just one more gut punch in huh? This is absolutely shocking and deeply upsetting. Rest in power sir. It's reminding me of the last week of 2016. The whammy on iconic celebrities was there all along, then Christmas-New Year's Eve they dropped bombs on us all (George Michael, Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher...) |
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Post by XIII on Dec 27, 2020 10:39:04 GMT -5
Took me a minute to let this sink in.
Sucks that he’s gone but we should all take solace in the fact that he was a good dude that helped a lot of people out within the industry. From all accounts a genuine good dude. This is of course little consolation for his family and friends but just need to look at the positives in a time like this.
RIP
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:39:33 GMT -5
I don't know how much longer I can keep following this business. That is all. Sadly, this business is no different then any other forms of entertainment You just don't have wrestlers die in the prime of their careers but check how many in the music industry or movies sadly pass away True. Just seems there's always a pox on this business in particular. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 10:40:26 GMT -5
Took me a minute to let this sink in. Sucks that he’s gone but we should all take solace in the fact that he was a good dude that helped a lot of people out within the industry. From all accounts a genuine good dude. This is of course little consolation for his family and friends but just need to look at the positives in a time like this. RIP It still bothers me though, cause when people like him leave us, they just leave behind people in the industry who help no one; in fact, they hurt more people. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 27, 2020 10:59:35 GMT -5
Yeah, if you remember the WM35 Andre, there’s the spot where Harper is suplexing Ali to the outside and Braun Strowman boots him in the chest, and Ali nearly lands on his f***in’ head. That was just a beyond stupid spot, with no way to do it safely the way WWE wanted it. You do it at the entrance way, and Harper is suplexing Ali completely, they're doing a bump they've done before, just with Braun's boot added. The WWE wanted it in front of the commentary table, which of course gave them no room. I could see all 3 members of New Day having a tribute to him on their tights. Also wouldn't be surprised if Woods, Cesaro, Breeze, and Cole do something for him in their weekly Uno game. |
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 27, 2020 11:01:44 GMT -5
Guess 2020 had to get just one more gut punch in huh? This is absolutely shocking and deeply upsetting. Rest in power sir. It's reminding me of the last week of 2016. The whammy on iconic celebrities was there all along, then Christmas-New Year's Eve they dropped bombs on us all (George Michael, Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher...) This year has been harsh specifically for wrestling though as well. Not just Brodie, but Hana Kimura and Shad Gaspard died young and way before their time. |
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Post by Viking Hall on Dec 27, 2020 11:03:52 GMT -5
Took me a minute to let this sink in. Sucks that he’s gone but we should all take solace in the fact that he was a good dude that helped a lot of people out within the industry. From all accounts a genuine good dude. This is of course little consolation for his family and friends but just need to look at the positives in a time like this. RIP It still bothers me though, cause when people like him leave us, they just leave behind people in the industry who help no one; in fact, they hurt more people. That's just life unfortunately. None of us, good or bad can pick our time, but I think I'd rather leave early and know that people have nothing but good to say of me, than hang around and leave behind nothing but bad feelings. All we can do is be the best versions of ourselves so that we can rest peacefully when that time comes, which going on the accounts we've all read over the past few hours, Brodie did a f***ing good job of. |
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Post by the2ndevil on Dec 27, 2020 11:12:14 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt's response really got to me. Especially the part how it was supposed to be them being old, fat, and useless doing Wyatt Family spots in high school gyms in their 70s. A nice moment of levity that made me smile and feel sad. twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1343048464456888320 |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 27, 2020 11:19:33 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt's response really got to me. Especially the part how it was supposed to be them being old, fat, and useless doing Wyatt Family spots in high school gyms in their 70s. A nice moment of levity that made me smile and feel sad. He's assuming there'll be more nostalgia for the WF than The Fiend too, LOL. (unless, it's a hint that he's bringing back his WF persona again, after TLC...) |
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