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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jan 5, 2021 12:31:27 GMT -5
I was watching Starrcade 2000 last night and saw a woman I've never heard of. Marie, who was supposed to be Vito's sister. According to Cagematch she's deceased but that's about the only information I can find on her. Did she do anything else in wrestling, how long was she in WCW? Any information would help.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 5, 2021 14:58:55 GMT -5
I was watching Starrcade 2000 last night and saw a woman I've never heard of. Marie, who was supposed to be Vito's sister. According to Cagematch she's deceased but that's about the only information I can find on her. Did she do anything else in wrestling, how long was she in WCW? Any information would help. It was confusing. Initially she was supposed to be a girlfriend Vito or Reno (who are now brothers apparently) stole from the other (no I can't remember which) only for her to suddenly be their sister instead. Man Russo era WCW was a mess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 16:17:07 GMT -5
There's not a whole lot of information out there on her. She was brought in for the Reno/Vito feud in late 2000, initially as Vito's girlfriend who Reno stole, then later their sister who they were for some reason still fighting over. The whole thing blew off at Sin, when Reno beat Vito, and then Marie managed Reno for a minute before they all just disappeared and the company went out of business.
I'm not sure where Cagematch got its info that she died in 2006, because it genuinely seems like she fell off of the face of the wrestling earth after that cup of coffee in WCW, and there's no information anywhere about her. Revealingly, the Observer in February 2001 had this blurb:
"Funny story of the week. Bryan Alvarez in doing his monthly article for Penthouse Magazine, this time on women in wrestling, in his list of all the women in wrestling, mentioned Marie (or is it Maria) in WCW (remember, the one who was romantically involved with Reno and was Vito's sister, then later it turned out Vito and Reno were brothers and the idea she was involved with Reno was dropped and then...she was gone) and they were looking for photos of her and couldn't find any. They called WCW and the people they contacted claimed they had never heard of her"
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 6, 2021 10:06:02 GMT -5
She worked for some modeling agency after WCW closed. I talked to the agency to set up an interview with her in 2006. This was back when I was trying to interview pretty much any wrestler who would talk to me. Plus, it was 2006 so it wasn’t THAT far removed from WCW’s closure.
The agency she worked for was pretty big and based out of Los Angeles IIRC. I believe she was working out of the New York City branch, which had split off around the time I was trying to set up the interview. So I never got to talk to her.
Plus, she was pursuing modeling so I doubt she would have wanted to talk about her cup of coffee in wrestling. I don’t think she worked at all in the industry before or after.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 6, 2021 17:27:53 GMT -5
I guess they ran out of Nitro Girls to use?
There was a few random women that popped up in the Russo era that lasted like a week.
Berlin’s translator Papaya (originally BB then another woman took over) Marie
I’m sure there were a few more 2 week faces as well
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 6, 2021 17:36:59 GMT -5
Papaya was Kathy Dingman aka B.B. aka Taylor Vaughn aka Hardcore Holly's mistress. The story at the time was after she was fired by WWF (possibly due to her breaking up Holly's marriage) that WCW hired her to be Kwee Wee's valet but then Holly didn't want her working for the competition so he made her quit. I have no idea if any of this is true or not.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 6, 2021 18:03:52 GMT -5
Papaya was Kathy Dingman aka B.B. aka Taylor Vaughn aka Hardcore Holly's mistress. The story at the time was after she was fired by WWF (possibly due to her breaking up Holly's marriage) that WCW hired her to be Kwee Wee's valet but then Holly didn't want her working for the competition so he made her quit. I have no idea if any of this is true or not. It's so bizarre she got a job based on Bob Holly cheating on his wife.
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Post by BJ Sturgeon on Jan 7, 2021 9:15:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure where Cagematch got its info that she died in 2006,... They may have confused her with Marianna "Mrs. Cleavage" Komlos, but she died in 2004.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 7, 2021 10:17:49 GMT -5
I had tried my hardest to find info on her, but there is nothing. I even had to look at her real name but I could only guess that the person who died was someone with the same name. One example is that I had found a video on YouTube from those days of WCW and a user had made a comment that the woman is that person's cousin. Not certain if there's any legitimacy to it, but if there was, it seems that the woman who was Marie in WCW is very much alive.
Another factor is that the person who died in 2006 was about 43. Being that she was in WCW in 2000, that would make her 37 during those days. She looked to be in her early-to-mid-20s at that point, 25 or 26 tops. I know that some people can have age-defying looks but if she was a model, she was probably still in her 20s. Even then, she likely had gone quiet after WCW had folded.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 7, 2021 10:21:21 GMT -5
That would be amazing if she was alive after someone stating she had passed. Remember Haiti Kid was supposed to be deceased for like a decade but some doctor wound up finding him at a homeless shelter. It's really sad nothing ever came of that, like publicity to get him a toy deal or Raw appearances.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 7, 2021 10:32:44 GMT -5
I guess they ran out of Nitro Girls to use? There was a few random women that popped up in the Russo era that lasted like a week. Berlin’s translator Papaya (originally BB then another woman took over) Marie I’m sure there were a few more 2 week faces as well What's weird is that they were right about to phase most of their female roster out when she showed up
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Post by agent817 on Jan 7, 2021 16:14:13 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhufWO18LQHere is the video that has comments from the alleged cousin of Marie. The more I look at her, the more I think that the Dina Destefano (Marie's real name) that died in 2006 was someone who shared that name. She did not look like she was in her late-30s at the time. I know I had noted that some people have age-defying looks, but even at that time, it doesn't seem likely that she was the same woman who passed away. So I'm guessing that this woman is still alive.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 7, 2021 16:17:03 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhufWO18LQHere is the video that has comments from the alleged cousin of Marie. The more I look at her, the more I think that the Dina Destefano (Marie's real name) that died in 2006 was someone who shared that name. She did not look like she was in her late-30s at the time. I know I had noted that some people have age-defying looks, but even at that time, it doesn't seem likely that she was the same woman who passed away. So I'm guessing that this woman is still alive. is it wrong the first thing I noticed is that... that is not the Italian flag on Vito's jacket? >_>
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 17:20:26 GMT -5
I was watching Starrcade 2000 last night and saw a woman I've never heard of. Marie, who was supposed to be Vito's sister. According to Cagematch she's deceased but that's about the only information I can find on her. Did she do anything else in wrestling, how long was she in WCW? Any information would help. It was confusing. Initially she was supposed to be a girlfriend Vito or Reno (who are now brothers apparently) stole from the other (no I can't remember which) only for her to suddenly be their sister instead. Man Russo era WCW was a mess. I started watching wrestling in 1996. I remember during Russo WCW I would often think that I didn't understand the rules of wrestling or that I missed a segment of a storyline. Then when I became more active in the IWC in the early 00's I realized it was all just bad writing. I mean, I knew wrestling was fake but didn't know exactly how things worked backstage and stuff.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 8, 2021 12:44:41 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxhufWO18LQHere is the video that has comments from the alleged cousin of Marie. The more I look at her, the more I think that the Dina Destefano (Marie's real name) that died in 2006 was someone who shared that name. She did not look like she was in her late-30s at the time. I know I had noted that some people have age-defying looks, but even at that time, it doesn't seem likely that she was the same woman who passed away. So I'm guessing that this woman is still alive. is it wrong the first thing I noticed is that... that is not the Italian flag on Vito's jacket? >_> It have read that some New York Italians do that just for the pattern, but it's clearly the Iranian flag. It would be like if someone try to make the French flag but used the Dutch flag.
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