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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 30, 2021 21:02:51 GMT -5
Cesaro has to win at Backlash now right?!?
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Post by Fade on Apr 30, 2021 21:03:05 GMT -5
Cesaro has to beat this man.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 30, 2021 21:03:33 GMT -5
Like, the nWo was cool and all, but even them destroying WCW stars every week got old.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Apr 30, 2021 21:04:28 GMT -5
My guess is Roman loses to Big E in front of fans at SummerSlam.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:04:40 GMT -5
Like, the nWo was cool and all, but even them destroying WCW stars every week got old. Honestly it's reminding me of when the Authority first started and so every single Raw and SmackDown both for like two months straight ended with Bryan getting the shit kicked out of him, except this has been going on four times as long.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 30, 2021 21:05:50 GMT -5
My guess is Roman loses to Big E in front of fans at SummerSlam. Though, given our reactions tonight, I dunno if we'll have patience for that happening, unless they let Roman eat shit more often than he's done so far.
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Post by warden on Apr 30, 2021 21:09:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed that ending. Bryan worked on Roman's good arm to take the impact out of the spear and weaken his guillotine. Unfortunately bryan forgot that roman has two arms, way to adapt by the champ. And then he becomes an evil Henry fonda and tells cesaro "keep your loving brother happy" and wham smashes bryan's skull with a chair while cesaro watches on helplessly like a loser, lol. Good ending
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 30, 2021 21:09:54 GMT -5
Roman beats Cesaro after the match....
"I'LL FIGHT HIM" Cheamus comes out and helps Cesaro.
BOOM!
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 30, 2021 21:14:03 GMT -5
I'm all for strong heels, but they need to take an L occasionally. Roman is just demolishing everyone.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 30, 2021 21:21:51 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is unbeatable? What is this, every year since 2015?
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 30, 2021 21:21:58 GMT -5
To me, they're going to start encountering the same problem with Roman that they did with Brock. They build him up so much and have him run roughshod over so many people with little to no consequence that there's no real way to pay it off adequately short of straight-up murdering the dude. Will he eventually drop it to someone? Sure, but much like when Brock dropped it and effectively left the title picture, it's just not going to mean much.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 30, 2021 21:25:28 GMT -5
To me, they're going to start encountering the same problem with Roman that they did with Brock. They build him up so much and have him run roughshod over so many people with little to no consequence that there's no real way to pay it off adequately short of straight-up murdering the dude. Will he eventually drop it to someone? Sure, but much like when Brock dropped it and effectively left the title picture, it's just not going to mean much. At this point, Big E's gonna have to essentially do what Drew McIntyre did to Brock when he beat him last year and consistently get the better of him in their inevitable feud. (Brock got the upper hand on Drew all of once, and it was pretty much Drew dominating Brock in nearly ever encounter they had before Mania)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:26:36 GMT -5
To me, they're going to start encountering the same problem with Roman that they did with Brock. They build him up so much and have him run roughshod over so many people with little to no consequence that there's no real way to pay it off adequately short of straight-up murdering the dude. Will he eventually drop it to someone? Sure, but much like when Brock dropped it and effectively left the title picture, it's just not going to mean much. I'm amazed they learned nothing from the problem that arose every time someone actually beat Brock head-on, there being nowhere left to go from there. Reigns they had to immediately pivot to a Shield reunion tour because there was really nothing for him to actually do as champion, Seth immediately had all of his momentum undercut by spending months feuding with Corbin because he was basically the only semi-viable heel on the roster, and Drew essentially just had a couple of awkward stumbling months of random filler before facing Orton 800 times because nobody else was a believable threat to him. As it is now even if someone beats Roman, then what? Do they feud with midcard wacky suit guy Rollins, midcard wacky conspiracy guy Zayn, or dropped so far down the card he basically doesn't exist anymore Corbin? Those are basically your only options.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 30, 2021 21:59:21 GMT -5
The big problem I see here is that there’s just no belief that he’s actually losing the thing until the next show with a live crowd at it, so it almost doesn’t matter if he gets laid out by a babyface every week (he shouldn’t be, but still) or he doesn’t, any feud he has until that point is going to have that impenetrable layer that stops anyone from completely believing that Reigns is in legitimate danger of being beaten for the belt, no matter how good or bad the champion and/or the challenger is being booked, because he just ain’t losing the belt on this big heel run in front of a Zoom call.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 30, 2021 22:01:09 GMT -5
The big problem I see here is that there’s just no belief that he’s actually losing the thing until the next show with a live crowd at it, so it almost doesn’t matter if he gets laid out by a babyface every week (he shouldn’t be, but still) or he doesn’t, any feud he has until that point is going to have that impenetrable layer that stops anyone from completely believing that Reigns is in legitimate danger of being beaten for the belt, no matter how good or bad the champion or the challenger is being booked, because he just ain’t losing the belt on this big heel run in front of a Zoom call. So basically I can bust this one out again:
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 30, 2021 22:04:39 GMT -5
The big problem I see here is that there’s just no belief that he’s actually losing the thing until the next show with a live crowd at it, so it almost doesn’t matter if he gets laid out by a babyface every week (he shouldn’t be, but still) or he doesn’t, any feud he has until that point is going to have that impenetrable layer that stops anyone from completely believing that Reigns is in legitimate danger of being beaten for the belt, no matter how good or bad the champion and/or the challenger is being booked, because he just ain’t losing the belt on this big heel run in front of a Zoom call. Probably why at SummerSlam when he's feuding with the guy he's dropping the belt to there, said person has to gain the upper hand for most of the feud leading up to SummerSlam (ala how Drew McIntyre largely had the upper hand versus Brock Lesnar leading up to Wrestlemania last year. Brock only laid out Drew all of once on the post-Royal Rumble Raw, and it was mostly Drew looking strong against him or MVP or whomever). I'd think that Roman's dominant run by the time they get to SummerSlam could be big enough where a feud that's basically him being laid out or whatever won't hurt his credibility.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:07:33 GMT -5
As I've stated for months, it's pretty clear that unless you're Big E or Cesaro you're gonna be beaten by Reigns. Jey's help or not. Bryan damn sure wasn't gonna get the job done and it wouldn't be good for the story if he did especially considering the guy's wanting to try different brands out. He got beaten clean here, got his ass torn up at that and boom, makes sense.
Doesn't matter if you're Bryan. Doesn't matter if you're Edge.
You gotta be Big E or Cesaro because these are the only 2 dudes who have been booked like they can win potentially against him. I mean Cesaro beat Bryan's ass clean not that long ago, Reigns is ducking him, he's got a better chance and that's what the booking's telling us. Why would Bryan be the guy to dethrone Reigns when the story's telling us there's a stronger guy out there that Reigns is ducking? That makes no sense, it's supposed to make you think "damn so Reigns can beat Bryan but he ducking Cesaro."
And I'm ok with that. I love my champions being strong. Beat they ass Big Dawg.
BEAT. THAT. ASS.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 30, 2021 22:13:46 GMT -5
As I've stated for months, it's pretty clear that unless you're Big E or Cesaro you're gonna be beaten by Reigns. Jey's help or not. Bryan damn sure wasn't gonna get the job done and it wouldn't be good for the story if he did especially considering the guy's wanting to try different brands out. He got beaten clean here, got his ass torn up at that and boom, makes sense. Doesn't matter if you're Bryan. Doesn't matter if you're Edge. You gotta be Big E or Cesaro because these are the only 2 dudes who have been booked like they can win potentially against him. I mean Cesaro beat Bryan's ass clean not that long ago, Reigns is ducking him, he's got a better chance and that's what the booking's telling us. Why would Bryan be the guy to dethrone Reigns when the story's telling us there's a stronger guy out there that Reigns is ducking? That makes no sense, it's supposed to make you think "damn so Reigns can beat Bryan but he ain't ducking Cesaro." And I'm ok with that. I love my champions being strong. Beat they ass Big Dawg. BEAT. THAT. ASS. I get it but man it's a downer to watch weekly if he's not even getting slightly bested for about 3/4ths of a year now lol. Like I'd be WAY more fine with him holding onto the belt every defense if he just got outsmarted like. three times in the last few months. I want that anime "NANI!?!" moment for the dude already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:20:44 GMT -5
As I've stated for months, it's pretty clear that unless you're Big E or Cesaro you're gonna be beaten by Reigns. Jey's help or not. Bryan damn sure wasn't gonna get the job done and it wouldn't be good for the story if he did especially considering the guy's wanting to try different brands out. He got beaten clean here, got his ass torn up at that and boom, makes sense. Doesn't matter if you're Bryan. Doesn't matter if you're Edge. You gotta be Big E or Cesaro because these are the only 2 dudes who have been booked like they can win potentially against him. I mean Cesaro beat Bryan's ass clean not that long ago, Reigns is ducking him, he's got a better chance and that's what the booking's telling us. Why would Bryan be the guy to dethrone Reigns when the story's telling us there's a stronger guy out there that Reigns is ducking? That makes no sense, it's supposed to make you think "damn so Reigns can beat Bryan but he ain't ducking Cesaro." And I'm ok with that. I love my champions being strong. Beat they ass Big Dawg. BEAT. THAT. ASS. I get it but man it's a downer to watch weekly if he's not even getting slightly bested for about 3/4ths of a year now lol. Like I'd be WAY more fine with him holding onto the belt every defense if he just got outsmarted like. three times in the last few months. I want that anime "NANI!?!" moment for the dude already. I feel ya. I just think at this point it's just too much for people to accept him holding onto the belt no matter what he does. I saw a lot of posts these past few weeks where people said they'd be ok with him being champion if he just won legit (around WM time) and now where he does it's like people are doing the "well uh no not that that doesn't count" thing. How he wins doesn't matter and how he is as a champion doesn't matter, people just don't want him to be champion anymore. If more just said that straight up then we'd get it but it's like nah, people aren't saying that. I wish I saw more of that rather than excuses on how they'd be ok with him being champion because now it looks like they're finally doing something new with his wins. From a story standpoint it makes sense to me, I mean I was one of the guys at the beginning of the run saying Reigns had no weaknesses but it's clear he's got a lot of weaknesses, he's just gotten help. This is one of the only times where he's won and proved himself to be who he says he is. Overall it's different strokes for different folks.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 30, 2021 22:22:42 GMT -5
I get it but man it's a downer to watch weekly if he's not even getting slightly bested for about 3/4ths of a year now lol. Like I'd be WAY more fine with him holding onto the belt every defense if he just got outsmarted like. three times in the last few months. I want that anime "NANI!?!" moment for the dude already. I feel ya. I just think at this point it's just too much for people to accept him holding onto the belt no matter what he does. I saw a lot of posts these past few weeks where people said they'd be ok with him being champion if he just won legit (around WM time) and now where he does it's like people are doing the "well uh no not that that doesn't count" thing. How he wins doesn't matter and how he is as a champion doesn't matter, people just don't want him to be champion anymore. If more just said that rather straight up then we'd get it but it's like nah, people aren't saying that. From a story standpoint it makes sense to me, I mean I was one of the guys at the beginning of the run saying Reigns had no weaknesses but it's clear he's got a lot of weaknesses, he's just gotten help. This is one of the only times where he's won and proved himself to be who he says he is. Overall it's different strokes for different folks. Me, personally, I don't mind the long run. I'm just at the point where I need to see him left laying more often than not. It's just a weird disconnect for me that a company that prides itself on making people happy books in a way that makes people miserable instead.
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