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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 14, 2022 20:11:49 GMT -5
Dude, NWA isn't even the best place for Hoss Fights. MLW puts on far better hoss fights, with a wider assortment of super-heavyweights.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 14, 2022 20:12:00 GMT -5
Undisputed WWE World Champion Roman Reigns, IWGP World Champion Jay White, AEW World Champion Jon Moxley, Impact Wrestling World Champion Josh Alexander, MLW World Heavyweight champion Alexander Hammerstone,... and NWA World Champion Tyrus. I like that MLW more warranted mentioning than ROH did.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 14, 2022 20:18:29 GMT -5
Undisputed WWE World Champion Roman Reigns, IWGP World Champion Jay White, AEW World Champion Jon Moxley, Impact Wrestling World Champion Josh Alexander, MLW World Heavyweight champion Alexander Hammerstone,... and NWA World Champion Tyrus. I like that MLW more warranted mentioning than ROH did. It's actually a seperate organization as opposed to AEW's developmental. THe product is also pretty solid.
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Post by chrom on Nov 14, 2022 20:45:46 GMT -5
Corgan wasn't even at the show.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 14, 2022 20:50:28 GMT -5
Corgan saying Brodus Clay vs Zack Ryder is some kind of big time heavyweight main event battle is really f***ing funny
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Nov 14, 2022 20:55:46 GMT -5
Corgan saying Brodus Clay vs Zack Ryder is some kind of big time heavyweight main event battle is really f***ing funny It wasn't even a main event on main event
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 14, 2022 21:47:15 GMT -5
Pictured: Someone whose foray into the wrestling genre was critically lambasted, considered "the most horrific demolition of a license ever". Oh, and he's standing next to Homer Simpson. ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361979571567984642/1041906459144888380/image.png)
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 15, 2022 1:43:48 GMT -5
I know Trevor Murdoch isn't a small dude, but THREE HUNDRED FIFTY POUNDS? That's some egregious weight billing.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 15, 2022 4:03:12 GMT -5
I know Trevor Murdoch isn't a small dude, but THREE HUNDRED FIFTY POUNDS? That's some egregious weight billing. For that matter I'd be shocked if Tyrus is only 375.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 15, 2022 4:05:52 GMT -5
I know Trevor Murdoch isn't a small dude, but THREE HUNDRED FIFTY POUNDS? That's some egregious weight billing. Yeah, I'd guess 300, tops, and even then, not sure he's that big.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 15, 2022 6:01:35 GMT -5
Dude, NWA isn't even the best place for Hoss Fights. MLW puts on far better hoss fights, with a wider assortment of super-heavyweights. Lets see Flair, Harley, The Funks, The Briscos, Dusty, Steamboat, Sting, Windham, and.......Tyrus. Billy old boy sure forgot what peak NWA World Champions had and what his champion doesn't. Those guys could go nearly 30 mins a night if not longer. Tyrus isn't that guy and never was. NWA where abou the combo of work horse and character. Dusty didn't look like a body builder but he could go and plus being one of the best talkers ever helps too. Tryus has NONE of those thing.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Nov 15, 2022 6:37:29 GMT -5
Look....I accepted a long, long time ago that wrestling was about over-stsating things, or flat out lying to sell something...but......there is NO f***ING WAY Tyrus is ONLY 25 pounds heavier than Trevor Murdoch.
C'mon now...
Billy are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay Billy?
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Post by MrElijah on Nov 15, 2022 9:12:06 GMT -5
Dude, NWA isn't even the best place for Hoss Fights. MLW puts on far better hoss fights, with a wider assortment of super-heavyweights. Lets see Flair, Harley, The Funks, The Briscos, Dusty, Steamboat, Sting, Windham, and.......Tyrus. Billy old boy sure forgot what peak NWA World Champions had and what his champion doesn't. Those guys could go nearly 30 mins a night if not longer. Tyrus isn't that guy and never was. NWA where abou the combo of work horse and character. Dusty didn't look like a body builder but he could go and plus being one of the best talkers ever helps too. Tryus has NONE of those thing. Tyrus is the guy they would've brought in a territory to squash some Ham 'N Eggers then fed to Dusty. Or Maybe win a title or 2 in Memphis then beaten by Lawler.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 15, 2022 9:31:47 GMT -5
Even funnier is his dumb ass point about heavyweight being a draw that hasn’t actually been a thing in decades, lmaooo.
Yes, there was Brock but Floyd Mayweather, Ronda Rousey, Connor Mcgregor, the vast majority of the tippy top draws in combat sports in recent history fall well short of being deemed “heavyweights”. Even arguably the biggest draw in boxing rn is a couple YouTubers
It’s 2022, ffs. Grow up!
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 15, 2022 9:53:29 GMT -5
WWE's been after a top tier heavyweight for years and Regal had talked about how difficult it is to find anyone suitable. These days AEW will be on the hunt too.
Maybe one day the holy grail will be discovered, that charasmatic heavyweight that will lead to a boom period. Does Billy really think they'll stay in NWA? He'll just get the guys nobody else wanted.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 15, 2022 15:01:01 GMT -5
Even funnier is his dumb ass point about heavyweight being a draw that hasn’t actually been a thing in decades, lmaooo. Yes, there was Brock but Floyd Mayweather, Ronda Rousey, Connor Mcgregor, the vast majority of the tippy top draws in combat sports in recent history fall well short of being deemed “heavyweights”. Even arguably the biggest draw in boxing rn is a couple YouTubers It’s 2022, ffs. Grow up! And when they were a draw, they had more going for them than just being big. Vader and Yokozuna were insanely athletic for their size. Andre the Giant was a physical World Wonder. Tyrus is none of that, he's just fat. Braun Strowman is billed at roughly the same height AND weight Tyrus is, and is built like a tank, and strong as one to boot. What does Tyrus bring to the table that someone like Braun doesn't?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 15, 2022 16:14:11 GMT -5
Even funnier is his dumb ass point about heavyweight being a draw that hasn’t actually been a thing in decades, lmaooo. Yes, there was Brock but Floyd Mayweather, Ronda Rousey, Connor Mcgregor, the vast majority of the tippy top draws in combat sports in recent history fall well short of being deemed “heavyweights”. Even arguably the biggest draw in boxing rn is a couple YouTubers It’s 2022, ffs. Grow up! And even where there are heavyweight draws, especially in MMA, we see a lot of talk about how top heavyweights have to be 'different' or have some talent or trait that is separate from the intrinsic, perpetual weaknesses of heavyweights. There are whole periods of the UFC heavyweight division seen as 'dark ages' because of sluggish dudes with no gas tanks having boring-ass fights. And that's not even that new; for every Brock you had a GSP or an Anderson Silva even in the time period Brock was big in. Focusing only on big dudes is a nonsense death knell and has been for decades. And that tracks in wrestling, too. The innate dread wrestling fans feel whenever some mediocre big dude shows up and seems destined for a push way out of his depth. It's not as if wrestling fans don't react to any big guys at all, but they have to actually be good for it to matter. Nobody gives a shit anymore just because a dude is huge. Size marks keep thinking it's going to usher in some new boom period if only the shittest big men in the world beat all the 'boring indie guys' but nobody is tuning in to dogshit TV just because a guy who's 6'7" has some gold around his waist. Just like the size mark wrestlers don't all mass buy UFC shows Ngannou headlines (and Ngannou is actually a guy with some spectacle), nobody outside of wrestling is coming in for this. This isn't how it works. They're embarrassing themselves.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 15, 2022 16:33:28 GMT -5
Even funnier is his dumb ass point about heavyweight being a draw that hasn’t actually been a thing in decades, lmaooo. Yes, there was Brock but Floyd Mayweather, Ronda Rousey, Connor Mcgregor, the vast majority of the tippy top draws in combat sports in recent history fall well short of being deemed “heavyweights”. Even arguably the biggest draw in boxing rn is a couple YouTubers It’s 2022, ffs. Grow up! And even where there are heavyweight draws, especially in MMA, we see a lot of talk about how top heavyweights have to be 'different' or have some talent or trait that is separate from the intrinsic, perpetual weaknesses of heavyweights. There are whole periods of the UFC heavyweight division seen as 'dark ages' because of sluggish dudes with no gas tanks having boring-ass fights. And that's not even that new; for every Brock you had a GSP or an Anderson Silva even in the time period Brock was big in. Focusing only on big dudes is a nonsense death knell and has been for decades. And that tracks in wrestling, too. The innate dread wrestling fans feel whenever some mediocre big dude shows up and seems destined for a push way out of his depth. It's not as if wrestling fans don't react to any big guys at all, but they have to actually be good for it to matter. Nobody gives a shit anymore just because a dude is huge. Size marks keep thinking it's going to usher in some new boom period if only the shittest big men in the world beat all the 'boring indie guys' but nobody is tuning in to dogshit TV just because a guy who's 6'7" has some gold around his waist. Just like the size mark wrestlers don't all mass buy UFC shows Ngannou headlines (and Ngannou is actually a guy with some spectacle), nobody outside of wrestling is coming in for this. This isn't how it works. They're embarrassing themselves. I mean look at how no one cared about Braun when he was in the Wyatt Family, and only started catching on when he started the "I'm not finished with you" endless backstage brawl with Roman.
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Post by MrElijah on Nov 15, 2022 18:16:54 GMT -5
Even funnier is his dumb ass point about heavyweight being a draw that hasn’t actually been a thing in decades, lmaooo. Yes, there was Brock but Floyd Mayweather, Ronda Rousey, Connor Mcgregor, the vast majority of the tippy top draws in combat sports in recent history fall well short of being deemed “heavyweights”. Even arguably the biggest draw in boxing rn is a couple YouTubers It’s 2022, ffs. Grow up! And even where there are heavyweight draws, especially in MMA, we see a lot of talk about how top heavyweights have to be 'different' or have some talent or trait that is separate from the intrinsic, perpetual weaknesses of heavyweights. There are whole periods of the UFC heavyweight division seen as 'dark ages' because of sluggish dudes with no gas tanks having boring-ass fights. And that's not even that new; for every Brock you had a GSP or an Anderson Silva even in the time period Brock was big in. Focusing only on big dudes is a nonsense death knell and has been for decades. And that tracks in wrestling, too. The innate dread wrestling fans feel whenever some mediocre big dude shows up and seems destined for a push way out of his depth. It's not as if wrestling fans don't react to any big guys at all, but they have to actually be good for it to matter. Nobody gives a shit anymore just because a dude is huge. Size marks keep thinking it's going to usher in some new boom period if only the shittest big men in the world beat all the 'boring indie guys' but nobody is tuning in to dogshit TV just because a guy who's 6'7" has some gold around his waist. Just like the size mark wrestlers don't all mass buy UFC shows Ngannou headlines (and Ngannou is actually a guy with some spectacle), nobody outside of wrestling is coming in for this. This isn't how it works. They're embarrassing themselves. Shit, this rings true in boxing as well. The Heavyweight Champ was the king but there's been some huge draws in lower weight classes: some examples, Hagler, Duran, Herns, Sugar Ray were the stars of the sport after Ali before Tyson came in KO'ing dudes and were still draws after.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 15, 2022 20:45:13 GMT -5
WWE's been after a top tier heavyweight for years and Regal had talked about how difficult it is to find anyone suitable. These days AEW will be on the hunt too. Maybe one day the holy grail will be discovered, that charasmatic heavyweight that will lead to a boom period. Does Billy really think they'll stay in NWA? He'll just get the guys nobody else wanted. Especially when MLW has guys like Hammerstone, Jacob Fatu, Juicy Finau, EJ Nduka, Calvin Tankman, and to a lesser extent, Alex Kane. Those are the guys in the mid-tier companies you would want to build a super-heavyweight promotion on, not Tyrus and Trevor Murdoch.
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