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Post by markymark on Mar 8, 2021 17:17:13 GMT -5
In fairness to Cody, if he had won he would be absolutely crucified for it today. If he botched pyro didnt happen, yes
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 17:53:24 GMT -5
His big comeback being booed was hilarious. I figured he would getting more boos, once fans returned. The injured but come back to (almost) win, doesnt make you a badass underdog. It makes you look like you took a breather while everyone else busted their ass and youre coming in rested to pull the rung out from someone else. The fact he's medical team never made it out of camera view was distracting and took away from the guys bumping in the match.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Mar 8, 2021 18:08:35 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that some people think he’s like Jeff Jarrett, when he’s 10 times better than him, hasn’t won a big match since October, and hasn’t been close to a World title, in fact, took himself out of the picture entirely. I mean, I know he can go over the top, but he’s still nowhere close to as bad as Jeff Jarrett. the comparison to JJ is just perfect.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 8, 2021 21:02:19 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that some people think he’s like Jeff Jarrett, when he’s 10 times better than him, hasn’t won a big match since October, and hasn’t been close to a World title, in fact, took himself out of the picture entirely. I mean, I know he can go over the top, but he’s still nowhere close to as bad as Jeff Jarrett. the comparison to JJ is just perfect. Why though? He’s not in the main event, he doesn’t dominate a championship, he’s not the owner of the company putting himself over everyone. He’s pretty better than Jeff Jarrett in every single way. Also Jarrett was NEVER as over as Cody is.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Mar 8, 2021 21:05:36 GMT -5
He really has to turn heel soon, this run is killing me. Big time. And there’s been parts in the past when they’ve focused on his heelish side through his tweenerish character but he needs a strictly-heel run. He can still represent the company if he turns heel, if that’s what they’re concerned about.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 21:54:31 GMT -5
Jarrett's run in TNA was basically "I really want to be Reign of Terror Triple H for this new company that I own with my dad" and he held the then-NWA World Heavyweight Championship so much that a lot of people nicknamed it the "Owners' Belt." The difference between Cody and TNA Double J is that Cody loses the matches Jarrett would win.
Jarrett also wishes that he had to turn face because the fans literally demanded it at their first shows like they did of Cody. That said, it's probably time to start thinking about turning heel. The face run's run its course. The blow up between QT Marshall and Dustin Rhodes at the Casino Battle Royal could also play into a Cody heel turn.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 8, 2021 21:58:53 GMT -5
How many more matches does Cody need to lose before the HHH/JJ comparisons end?
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 22:02:51 GMT -5
How many more matches does Cody need to lose before the HHH/JJ comparisons end? He'll never escape it with some people unless he goes back to WWE and joins the Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 22:04:19 GMT -5
the comparison to JJ is just perfect. Why though? He’s not in the main event, he doesn’t dominate a championship, he’s not the owner of the company putting himself over everyone. He’s pretty better than Jeff Jarrett in every single way. Also Jarrett was NEVER as over as Cody is. The press conferences, the cage matches, getting his own title, the chain matches, the cross over with the nba, open changes, etc etc etc Yeah he might be losing and not be champion. He’s still front and center time and time again at to the point I feel diminishing the product. There’s so many story telling beats, and matches that could have gone to other guys.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 22:06:22 GMT -5
What in the f*** does any of that have to do with Jeff Jarrett?
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 8, 2021 22:10:29 GMT -5
Why though? He’s not in the main event, he doesn’t dominate a championship, he’s not the owner of the company putting himself over everyone. He’s pretty better than Jeff Jarrett in every single way. Also Jarrett was NEVER as over as Cody is. The press conferences, the cage matches, getting his own title, the chain matches, the cross over with the nba, open changes, etc etc etc Yeah he might be losing and not be champion. He’s still front and center time and time again at to the point I feel diminishing the product. There’s so many story telling beats, and matches that could have gone to other guys. He’s also one of the bigger stars and draws of the company. Of course he’s going to get focus. Especially in the early months. Does he need to just job out to make some people happy? The only way his stuff wouldn’t be justified if he wasn’t insanely over with the crowd. But he is. I’m just guessing you don’t like him for whatever reason and I understand there are some who don’t like him for whatever reason.
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Post by Chiral on Mar 8, 2021 22:10:30 GMT -5
What in the f*** does any of that have to do with Jeff Jarrett? I'm suddenly picturing a straight to VHS Air Bud movie that heavily features TNA Jeff Jarrett and I wish I was in the timeline where that happened and it got heavily promoted on Impact.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 8, 2021 22:16:07 GMT -5
How many more matches does Cody need to lose before the HHH/JJ comparisons end? He'll never escape it with some people unless he goes back to WWE and joins the Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club. I can see that being a reason. Also there is a weird section of fans who hate all of The Elite for stupid reasons, so there’s that. And being ex WWE guy, even though he’s already gone through TNA, ROH and NJPW, so in my eyes he lost the “stigma” of WWE guy. He bet on himself that he could a bigger star for a company and he is. He’s not a guy who is THE top guy, but he is definitely a top guy on charisma and presence alone, something Jarrett never had. So I don’t see why he shouldn’t be treated like one, and he has seemingly gone out of his way to not push himself to be in all the main events and he’s put over a good amount of guys. Same as the other Elite members.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 22:20:27 GMT -5
He'll never escape it with some people unless he goes back to WWE and joins the Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club. I can see that being a reason. Also there is a weird section of fans who hate all of The Elite for stupid reasons, so there’s that. And being ex WWE guy, even though he’s already gone through TNA, ROH and NJPW, so in my eyes he lost the “stigma” of WWE guy. He bet on himself that he could a bigger star for a company and he is. He’s not a guy who is THE top guy, but he is definitely a top guy on charisma and presence alone, something Jarrett never had. So I don’t see why he shouldn’t be treated like one, and he has seemingly gone out of his way to not push himself to be in all the main events and he’s put over a good amount of guys. Same as the other Elite members. That's the biggest difference between TNA Jeff Jarrett and AEW Cody Rhodes: Jeff made himself the top guy in TNA in a decision driven purely by ego, fans be damned. The fans made Cody a star at Double or Nothing.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 8, 2021 22:57:21 GMT -5
Why though? He’s not in the main event, he doesn’t dominate a championship, he’s not the owner of the company putting himself over everyone. He’s pretty better than Jeff Jarrett in every single way. Also Jarrett was NEVER as over as Cody is. The press conferences, the cage matches, getting his own title, the chain matches, the cross over with the nba, open changes, etc etc etc Yeah he might be losing and not be champion. He’s still front and center time and time again at to the point I feel diminishing the product. There’s so many story telling beats, and matches that could have gone to other guys. "Getting his own title"? Darby is one day away from tying Cody's total days-held with the title on his way to getting at least one more day before a defense that even if he loses, means Cody won't have the longest combined reigns (and alreay doesn't have the longest), and even that ignores the days Brodie held it. Cody hasn't held 'his own title' for even half of the time it's been alive, which has been less than a year. Having an open challenge when you're the TV champion isn't new either; he did the gimmick, then he lost it in the gimmick, now he's moved on. Gimmick matches? Plenty of other people have had gimmick matches in AEW, but Cody not only has been one of its bigger and more over stars, he's someone whose general style thrives on drama and big stakes. His booking as a throwback to big, dramatic territory stuff has been a really good place for him. We must have different ideas of 'front and center', because even in his world title shot, he didn't get the top spot on the card. He's a prominently featured talent for the company he helps run and he's over in that spot, I really don't see how he's taking anything away from anyone else.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Mar 8, 2021 23:03:12 GMT -5
Honestly the only thing Cody does that should get the HHH or Jarrett comparisons is his entrances sometimes are super grandiose. Also that gender reveal was a fart sniff for him
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Post by thewaykokid on Mar 9, 2021 7:42:19 GMT -5
Honest question who would people rather have in the spots Cody had gotten. The cage match against Wardlow before facing and LOSING to 23 year old MJF. Who would of gotten MJF and Wardlow more over in that spot? SCU? Kenny? Jericho? Who would of been a better first TNT champion gotten people to care about it and to bring in New Indy talent with the challenge? Who else could of faced Shaq and gotten two women more over than themselves and pulled out a great match from a 40 plus year old non wrestler? I truly can't think of someone better in the spots he has gotten. He brings more eyes on the product and in a good way has gotten new talent over. Who else could Kingston have faced his 1st match in lost and still get signed and in the main event almost immediately after ? I get it if you just don't like him I'm just wondering who in AEW could fill his role?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2021 7:45:11 GMT -5
I find it hilarious that some people think he’s like Jeff Jarrett, when he’s 10 times better than him, hasn’t won a big match since October, and hasn’t been close to a World title, in fact, took himself out of the picture entirely. I mean, I know he can go over the top, but he’s still nowhere close to as bad as Jeff Jarrett. the comparison to JJ is just perfect. Your constant loathing of Cody Rhodes any time his name is seemingly brought up is, at the very least, admirable in its commitment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 8:21:58 GMT -5
What in the f*** does any of that have to do with Jeff Jarrett? People are so f***ing desperate to shit AEW that their trying to compare it to an era of TNA that had Russo Booking, Neo Nazi, Tag Team Penis, a guy jerking off in a trash can, strippers and Jeff Jarrett going through a midlife crisis. Next it be people trying to compare Tony Khan to Rob Black.
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Mar 9, 2021 8:40:00 GMT -5
It bothered me that Cody was in the match in the match in the first place. You’ve got a bunch of hungry guys trying to literally grab the brass ring (which was silly as shit) and then you’ve got Cody. How is one of the EVPs and arguably the face of the company gonna “grab the brass ring”? Can’t wait for him to book himself in the first ever Glass Ceiling Cage Match.
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