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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 17, 2021 19:56:55 GMT -5
Star Trek has been prone to a lot of myths that have become bigger and more exaggerated over the years (much of this due to Gene Roddenberry himself spreading a lot of them around the burgeoning Trek fandom in the 70s).
TOS was not the first interracial kiss on television, the creator of the flip phone was inspired by Dick Tracy as opposed to ST, NBC had no objection to the first officer being a woman from the first pilot (only that they didn't want Majel Barrett in the role), TOS getting a second pilot wasn't groundbreaking or that unheard of, and there's no evidence that Pravda complained about the lack of Russians on Trek (leading to Chekov's creation).
There's many little factoids out there that either aren't true or are on shaky ground in terms of their veracity, but yeah TOS especially has been prone to a lot of dubious claims.
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Post by Woo on Nov 18, 2021 16:56:32 GMT -5
I guess you have the quotes that never existed.
"Beam me up Scotty."
"Elementary my dear Watson"
"Play it again Sam"
"You dirty rat".
Or the Dracula "Blergh Blergh"
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 18, 2021 17:00:39 GMT -5
"Real Beauty Comes From The Inside." That's just something ugly people say. The first time I saw a body bend that way I realized that we're more beautiful dead than alive With bloodied flesh removed, your rib cage ripped away And I saw why they say beauty comes from the insideDamn, that's a deep cut even as far as BNO's discography. Well done.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 18, 2021 17:17:35 GMT -5
The first time I saw a body bend that way I realized that we're more beautiful dead than alive With bloodied flesh removed, your rib cage ripped away And I saw why they say beauty comes from the inside Damn, that's a deep cut even as far as BNO's discography. Well done. Back when this forum had its own e-fed (EWT) my character used "A Torrid Love Affair" as his entrance music.
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Post by unc40 on Nov 23, 2021 23:27:58 GMT -5
Some military myths:
The 54th Massachusetts was not the first black regiment in the U.S. Civil War that distinction goes to the 1st Kansas.
The pilots of the Black Sheep Squadron were not a bunch of misfits in fact many of the pilots held a grudge with Boyington for the way they were portrayed in the series.
The Tuskegee Airmen did lose bombers on escort missions in World War 2.
Col. Chamberlain did not order a swinging gate maneuver on Little Round Top.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 1:44:34 GMT -5
Read thru this whole thread. Keep 'em coming! Very entertaining and interesting stuff.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 24, 2021 5:26:32 GMT -5
Napoleon was not a short man driven to conquer the world to compensate for being short. Surviving uniforms he wore indicate he was not that far below average height for his time. The image of him as short comes primarily from cartoons published in the European press that depicted him as a troll like figure.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 24, 2021 6:02:51 GMT -5
Napoleon was not a short man driven to conquer the world to compensate for being short. Surviving uniforms he wore Indy are he was not that far below average height for his time. The image of him as short comes primarily from cartoons published in the European press that depicted him as a troll like figure. That and he employed bodyguards that were well above average height that made him look small in comparison.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 24, 2021 6:07:40 GMT -5
Star Trek has been prone to a lot of myths that have become bigger and more exaggerated over the years (much of this due to Gene Roddenberry himself spreading a lot of them around the burgeoning Trek fandom in the 70s). TOS was not the first interracial kiss on television, the creator of the flip phone was inspired by Dick Tracy as opposed to ST, NBC had no objection to the first officer being a woman from the first pilot (only that they didn't want Majel Barrett in the role), TOS getting a second pilot wasn't groundbreaking or that unheard of, and there's no evidence that Pravda complained about the lack of Russians on Trek (leading to Chekov's creation). There's many little factoids out there that either aren't true or are on shaky ground in terms of their veracity, but yeah TOS especially has been prone to a lot of dubious claims. First one is interesting....what was the first TV interracial kiss?
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 24, 2021 6:13:01 GMT -5
Ted McGinley kills shows instantly.
The Team Challenge Series was the last AWA program....the one in the pink room at least.
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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 24, 2021 6:20:37 GMT -5
Star Trek has been prone to a lot of myths that have become bigger and more exaggerated over the years (much of this due to Gene Roddenberry himself spreading a lot of them around the burgeoning Trek fandom in the 70s). TOS was not the first interracial kiss on television, the creator of the flip phone was inspired by Dick Tracy as opposed to ST, NBC had no objection to the first officer being a woman from the first pilot (only that they didn't want Majel Barrett in the role), TOS getting a second pilot wasn't groundbreaking or that unheard of, and there's no evidence that Pravda complained about the lack of Russians on Trek (leading to Chekov's creation). There's many little factoids out there that either aren't true or are on shaky ground in terms of their veracity, but yeah TOS especially has been prone to a lot of dubious claims. First one is interesting....what was the first TV interracial kiss? The answer somewhat varies depending on definition, but Wikipedia has a few examples (especially in the UK) that suggest while significant, Trek's simply wasn't the first. First Interracial Kiss on Television
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 24, 2021 8:21:41 GMT -5
I guess you have the quotes that never existed. "Beam me up Scotty." "Elementary my dear Watson" "Play it again Sam" "You dirty rat". Or the Dracula "Blergh Blergh" "Luke, I am your father!"
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 24, 2021 8:41:54 GMT -5
I guess you have the quotes that never existed. "Beam me up Scotty." "Elementary my dear Watson" "Play it again Sam" "You dirty rat". Or the Dracula "Blergh Blergh" “Cesaro is too Swiss” (The actual quote is “It might be because he's Swiss, I don't know”… Both quotes are equally crocks of shit but for different reasons)
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 24, 2021 10:44:28 GMT -5
Napoleon was not a short man driven to conquer the world to compensate for being short. Surviving uniforms he wore Indy are he was not that far below average height for his time. The image of him as short comes primarily from cartoons published in the European press that depicted him as a troll like figure. That and he employed bodyguards that were well above average height that made him look small in comparison. Go one better: the famous pose of him with his hand tucked into his shirt was not because he was holding up his pants, had kidney stones, or was trying to hide some injury. In a lot of depictions of ancient leaders like the Roman emperors they are shown with one hand held at their chest and the other arm upraised; it was a pose often struck while delivering speeches, the gesturing army meant to signify passion with the other arm being held back signified restraint. The portrait that Napoleon struck that pose for had details like the late time on the clock and the battle maps on his desk meant to show what a great leader and hard worker he was while the pose was meant to show him as modest and restrained.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 20, 2022 13:23:41 GMT -5
So a bunch of master tapes are permanently altered, original episodes lost. Good job, knee jerk reactors.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 20, 2022 13:33:37 GMT -5
So a bunch of master tapes are permanently altered, original episodes lost. Good job, knee jerk reactors. but they aren't lost. The King Turd collection has every episode fully uncut. Just cause something isn't for sale in a store or streaming on a site doesn't mean it is lost. Look at the hype in the lost media fandom when someone,buddy who rand the YT channel Piratetube,uploaded a copy of the LOST film The Astrologer. Showed me that lots of the Lost media people never bother to do much research. The copy of the Astrologer Piratetube uploaded had been floating around torrent trackers for years now.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Sept 20, 2022 14:00:00 GMT -5
Porygon did not cause the explosion that gave all those kids seizures.
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 20, 2022 14:12:58 GMT -5
He-Man was not the first toy-based cartoon show. There was a Hot Wheels cartoon in the 1960s, and even if you're just talking about the 80s shows, Strawberry Shortcake's first special premiered on March 1980 (during the Carter administration, so it wasnt something that happened due to Reagan).
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Post by karl100589 on Sept 20, 2022 14:18:00 GMT -5
Dennis Law didn't relegate Man United. United were relying on other results to go their way to stand any chance of staying up. Even if United won the game they would've gone down anyway.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 20, 2022 14:24:47 GMT -5
So a bunch of master tapes are permanently altered, original episodes lost. Good job, knee jerk reactors. but they aren't lost. The King Turd collection has every episode fully uncut. Just cause something isn't for sale in a store or streaming on a site doesn't mean it is lost. Look at the hype in the lost media fandom when someone,buddy who rand the YT channel Piratetube,uploaded a copy of the LOST film The Astrologer. Showed me that lots of the Lost media people never bother to do much research. The copy of the Astrologer Piratetube uploaded had been floating around torrent trackers for years now. I guess the "official" versions then rather than "lost" in general?
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