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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 19, 2024 5:20:43 GMT -5
WWE has spent zero time building Rhea vs Becky they've been hinting at a possible multi-woman match with Becky/Rhea/Liv/Nia but squashed that tonight Liv has nothing for Mania clearly, and I hope they truly just leave her off the card rather than pair her with some random woman in a BS tag-team match for shits and giggles Hope they let her walk soon, would rather see her in AEW,4 her career is going nowhere with WWE She ain’t gonna win a belt any quicker going to AEW. And I don’t think their fans would tolerate her jumping the queue over some of the talents they have at their disposal. Only cool thing about her being in AEW would be her using the name Gionna Daddio. For a good while, they weren't great at booking women either... I'm hopeful there will be some sort of "showcase" match involving her. If not, I'm most likely skipping 'Mania - and that's just fine. Tons of PLE's for her to headline as RAW's roster is mostly made of jabronies.
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Post by MachoManGodzilla on Mar 19, 2024 5:34:34 GMT -5
Everything someone has even the slightest bit of "bad booking", people suggest "jump to AEW", as if they need MORE ex-WWE guys.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 19, 2024 5:56:54 GMT -5
Ohhh.... Back 2 School Back 2 School To Prove To Liv That I'm Not A Fool! I've Got My Lunch Packed Up, My Boots Tied Tight, I Hope I Don't Get In A Fight! Ohhh.... Back 2 School Back 2 School Back 2 School
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 19, 2024 6:11:12 GMT -5
WWE has spent zero time building Rhea vs Becky they've been hinting at a possible multi-woman match with Becky/Rhea/Liv/Nia but squashed that tonight Liv has nothing for Mania clearly, and I hope they truly just leave her off the card rather than pair her with some random woman in a BS tag-team match for shits and giggles Hope they let her walk soon, would rather see her in AEW, her career is going nowhere with WWE She ain’t gonna win a belt any quicker going to AEW. And I don’t think their fans would tolerate her jumping the queue over some of the talents they have at their disposal. The only difference if Liv ended up in AEW is what section of the people would be in complaining that she isn't currently enjoying a Roman Reigns-esque title reign.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 19, 2024 7:12:15 GMT -5
Liv is in a perfectly fine spot given her skillset, tbh. She’s regularly on TV, she’s always interacting with top stars and it’s clear she’s being set up for a feud with Becky post-Mania. Not sure what people want beyond her going full Goldberg and beating everyone in the division.
If she went to AEW she’d find herself in the Julia Hart, Skye Blue, Willow, Kris tier and then people would complain she wasn’t world champ.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Mar 19, 2024 7:35:17 GMT -5
Still a reasonable chance Liv vs Nia gets made, but it would have to be set up next week. There were at least some seeds planted with that 10 second cameo promo, but that's pretty much the only direction she has at the moment. It would feel rushed, and kind of for the sake of it, but if made, it would effectively be the first ever non title women's singles match at Mania (outside of a 2 min cat fight in 2000, and a Playb0y pillow fight in 2006), and a chance for Liv to get a notable win ahead of potentially facing Rhea in the comking months, but at the same time, it would be ironic that less than 2 weeks out, the first women's singles match would still to be confirmed, whereas we already have at least 2 men's non title singles matches confirmed.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 19, 2024 7:40:06 GMT -5
Still a reasonable chance Liv vs Nia gets made, but it would have to be set up next week. There were at least some seeds planted with that 10 second cameo promo, but that's pretty much the only direction she has at the moment. It would feel rushed, and kind of for the sake of it, but if made, it would effectively be the first ever non title women's singles match at Mania (outside of a 2 min cat fight in 2000, and a Playb0y pillow fight in 2006), and a chance for Liv to get a notable win ahead of potentially facing Rhea in the comking months, but at the same time, it would be ironic that less than 2 weeks out, the first women's singles match would still to be confirmed, whereas we already have at least 2 men's non title singles matches confirmed. There is seriously that few? You'd think there would/should be dozen at least. Liv wrestled against Natalya in 1 vs. 1 contest at 'Mania, regardless.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Mar 19, 2024 7:45:54 GMT -5
Still a reasonable chance Liv vs Nia gets made, but it would have to be set up next week. There were at least some seeds planted with that 10 second cameo promo, but that's pretty much the only direction she has at the moment. It would feel rushed, and kind of for the sake of it, but if made, it would effectively be the first ever non title women's singles match at Mania (outside of a 2 min cat fight in 2000, and a Playb0y pillow fight in 2006), and a chance for Liv to get a notable win ahead of potentially facing Rhea in the comking months, but at the same time, it would be ironic that less than 2 weeks out, the first women's singles match would still to be confirmed, whereas we already have at least 2 men's non title singles matches confirmed. There is seriously that few? You'd think there would/should be dozen at least. Liv wrestled against Natalya in 1 vs. 1 contest at 'Mania, regardless. Sorry, should have specified main card, but yeah, I went back and checked Wiki a few weeks ago, and all the cards since the start, as I was convinced Tiffany vs Bianca would have been the first serious one (clearly not happening now), and Kat vs Terri cat fight, and Candice vs Torrie pillow fight are literally the only ones. So it would still be notable if it was made next week, but would feel more rushed and for the sake of given them something to do, than 'historic' like if they had properly been building towards that the past 2-3 weeks and not playing second fiddle to make Becky look good.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Mar 19, 2024 8:46:59 GMT -5
Liv is in a perfectly fine spot given her skillset, tbh. She’s regularly on TV, she’s always interacting with top stars and it’s clear she’s being set up for a feud with Becky post-Mania. Not sure what people want beyond her going full Goldberg and beating everyone in the division. If she went to AEW she’d find herself in the Julia Hart, Skye Blue, Willow, Kris tier and then people would complain she wasn’t world champ. I'd imagine after finishing 2nd in the Rumble, and again at the Chamber, regularly on TV as you say, decent merch shifter, I'd imagine most would have at least expected something reasonable for her at Mania. Yes, Mania isn't the be all and end all,is only one show, and I'd rather my fave missed Mania then had something obvious and significant going forward, than getting a Mania match, but minimal follow up plans, but it is still Mania, the night(s) where most eyes are on the product, the most buzz, the show you dream about as a kid. If I was a Liv fan I would rightly feel annoyed that after all the above, less than 2 weeks out by the time the next RAW comes along there's nothing obvious for her on the big one, especially when there's 8 mens matches already confirmed. Many people were expecting a triple threat or fatal 4 way up until very recently which won't have helped either, and if they are doing Liv vs Nia in a rare non title women's match, then it would have been much better them actually setting up and building it properly these past few weeks to make it feel more relevant.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 19, 2024 11:51:57 GMT -5
She ain’t gonna win a belt any quicker going to AEW. And I don’t think their fans would tolerate her jumping the queue over some of the talents they have at their disposal. Only cool thing about her being in AEW would be her using the name Gionna Daddio. For a good while, they weren't great at booking women either... I'm hopeful there will be some sort of "showcase" match involving her. If not, I'm most likely skipping 'Mania - and that's just fine. Tons of PLE's for her to headline as RAW's roster is mostly made of jabronies. Gionna Jane Daddio is such a cool name.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 19, 2024 12:20:32 GMT -5
Liv is in a perfectly fine spot given her skillset, tbh. She’s regularly on TV, she’s always interacting with top stars and it’s clear she’s being set up for a feud with Becky post-Mania. Not sure what people want beyond her going full Goldberg and beating everyone in the division. If she went to AEW she’d find herself in the Julia Hart, Skye Blue, Willow, Kris tier and then people would complain she wasn’t world champ. Nah, it ain’t like AEW are fans are complaining about those three being in their spot. Having a midcard belt to fight over helps (hint WWE). The idea that you cannot find a spot for her on a two night Mania, after teasing for so long that she might get one, is just annoying. I wish this whole thing had ended far sooner, if it wasn’t going to actually mean anything in the end. Becky didn’t need to be fighting two women who are NOT in the Mania match still only a couple of weeks before Mania. That’s honestly been an issue with multiple Mania feuds this year actually. Too many side quests that have dragged on for too long.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 19, 2024 12:53:32 GMT -5
J is Justice A Little Doo DooI reached Tundra tier at WWE SuperCard today 'cause of the new RR24 QR code/gift ... 'cause of that I got to forge myself finally a Liv Morgan Noir card! I know it's kind of old now, but it's the one I've wanted for like forever! 😍
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Post by cosmo on Mar 20, 2024 10:56:17 GMT -5
Okay, here's my idea for Liv to have a match at Mania...
Bring back the women's Mania battle royal, and have her be the last person eliminated.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 20, 2024 11:54:49 GMT -5
Okay, here's my idea for Liv to have a match at Mania... Bring back the women's Mania battle royal, and have her be the last person eliminated. #2
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2024 13:44:53 GMT -5
Liv is in a perfectly fine spot given her skillset, tbh. She’s regularly on TV, she’s always interacting with top stars and it’s clear she’s being set up for a feud with Becky post-Mania. Not sure what people want beyond her going full Goldberg and beating everyone in the division. If she went to AEW she’d find herself in the Julia Hart, Skye Blue, Willow, Kris tier and then people would complain she wasn’t world champ. I'd imagine after finishing 2nd in the Rumble, and again at the Chamber, regularly on TV as you say, decent merch shifter, I'd imagine most would have at least expected something reasonable for her at Mania. Yes, Mania isn't the be all and end all,is only one show, and I'd rather my fave missed Mania then had something obvious and significant going forward, than getting a Mania match, but minimal follow up plans, but it is still Mania, the night(s) where most eyes are on the product, the most buzz, the show you dream about as a kid. If I was a Liv fan I would rightly feel annoyed that after all the above, less than 2 weeks out by the time the next RAW comes along there's nothing obvious for her on the big one, especially when there's 8 mens matches already confirmed. Many people were expecting a triple threat or fatal 4 way up until very recently which won't have helped either, and if they are doing Liv vs Nia in a rare non title women's match, then it would have been much better them actually setting up and building it properly these past few weeks to make it feel more relevant. Thank you! This is the crux of why I am so worked up the last few weeks. Either she's a top-tier star (recent national ad/commercial campaigns would suggest they view her as such) or she isn't. But don't keep toying with us by putting her as a runner-up in big matches/events and then come the biggest show of the year do nothing with her. It's like... don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. If she was viewed as a lower-tier superstar still then fine, I'd be happy with any TV time and storyline she gets but when they act like she is kinda/sorta in the upper echelon ya expect good things and then nothing. Even if she was part of a triple threat or fatal 4-way, I'd expect her to lose and have Becky/Rhea walk out with the title. But I wouldn't be upset about it, she'd have a great spot on the card which she deserves. Liv vs Nia is pointless as it has zero meaning or set up. Had Liv interfered in the last-woman standing match on Monday I could get behind it but not now. Liv vs Becky post mania isn't happening soon as Rhea would certainly get a rematch if she drops the belt. And honestly who cares about the "revenge tour" at this point for a Liv vs Rhea feud? WWE dropped the ball there too. It will be over 2 months since Liv returned at Rumble, has not gone after Rhea physically a single time and has a losing record on said tour. It failed, it's over.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Mar 20, 2024 14:09:08 GMT -5
I'd imagine after finishing 2nd in the Rumble, and again at the Chamber, regularly on TV as you say, decent merch shifter, I'd imagine most would have at least expected something reasonable for her at Mania. Yes, Mania isn't the be all and end all,is only one show, and I'd rather my fave missed Mania then had something obvious and significant going forward, than getting a Mania match, but minimal follow up plans, but it is still Mania, the night(s) where most eyes are on the product, the most buzz, the show you dream about as a kid. If I was a Liv fan I would rightly feel annoyed that after all the above, less than 2 weeks out by the time the next RAW comes along there's nothing obvious for her on the big one, especially when there's 8 mens matches already confirmed. Many people were expecting a triple threat or fatal 4 way up until very recently which won't have helped either, and if they are doing Liv vs Nia in a rare non title women's match, then it would have been much better them actually setting up and building it properly these past few weeks to make it feel more relevant. Thank you! This is the crux of why I am so worked up the last few weeks. Either she's a top-tier star (recent national ad/commercial campaigns would suggest they view her as such) or she isn't. But don't keep toying with us by putting her as a runner-up in big matches/events and then come the biggest show of the year do nothing with her. It's like... don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. If she was viewed as a lower-tier superstar still then fine, I'd be happy with any TV time and storyline she gets but when they act like she is kinda/sorta in the upper echelon ya expect good things and then nothing. Even if she was part of a triple threat or fatal 4-way, I'd expect her to lose and have Becky/Rhea walk out with the title. But I wouldn't be upset about it, she'd have a great spot on the card which she deserves. Liv vs Nia is pointless as it has zero meaning or set up. Had Liv interfered in the last-woman standing match on Monday I could get behind it but not now. Liv vs Becky post mania isn't happening soon as Rhea would certainly get a rematch if she drops the belt. And honestly who cares about the "revenge tour" at this point for a Liv vs Rhea feud? WWE dropped the ball there too. It will be over 2 months since Liv returned at Rumble, has not gone after Rhea physically a single time and has a losing record on said tour. It failed, it's over. Yeah, the worst part is, if Liv vs Nia is confirmed (which many are now expecting online), that the while there was no end result, we literally saw this match on RAW 3 or 4 weeks ago, and it didn't feel like a Mania match. Both have since lost to Becky, clean, so will kind of feel like a consolation prize, whereas had they straight up beefed together 3 or 4 weeks ago (and not had a throwaway match weeks back), and the match was made this past Monday, then it would have felt reasonably significant, and would be a big win if Liv pulled it off, but they've basically propped up Becky for weeks now, and it's all a bit 'meh' really. Better than nothing I guess (and far better than Tiffany in catering), and as mentioned earlier, it would effectively be the first serious non title women's main show Mania singles match ever, but it also couldn't have felt much more rushed if it is indeed confirmed on Monday. I like Liv, but am largely neutral, and I fully agree that she has been shafted these past few weeks.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 21, 2024 8:46:43 GMT -5
My precious! 🤗 Action figure set arrived in record time. ' can't say the same about my Christy Hemme autograph, which got lost somewhere in Australia - thankfully they found it and it's been resent to me. On its way, regardless.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 23, 2024 23:54:20 GMT -5
Tomorrow it's Monday aka. The Liv Morgan Show. She has showcased herself so'oh great these past three months, every week that she's been on (after returning) has been a rollercoaster / ecstasy / fun / ' can't miss action! Always raises the bar, probably will do that just like Trish Stratus every night 'til she retires for good as multiple time champion! 👊
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2024 2:40:25 GMT -5
Tomorrow it's Monday aka. The Liv Morgan Show. She has showcased herself so'oh great these past three months, every week that she's been on (after returning) has been a rollercoaster / ecstasy / fun / ' can't miss action! Always raises the bar, probably will do that just like Trish Stratus every night 'til she retires for good as multiple time champion! 👊 # WATCH ME OR I GO HOUDINI yes, she has been so great... really racking up those wins (no) and is a real contender (nope) and has a great match at mania (no) that should vault her right into title contention against rhea or becky (nope)
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 24, 2024 5:11:15 GMT -5
Tomorrow it's Monday aka. The Liv Morgan Show. She has showcased herself so'oh great these past three months, every week that she's been on (after returning) has been a rollercoaster / ecstasy / fun / ' can't miss action! Always raises the bar, probably will do that just like Trish Stratus every night 'til she retires for good as multiple time champion! 👊 # WATCH ME OR I GO HOUDINI yes, she has been so great... really racking up those wins (no) and is a real contender (nope) and has a great match at mania (no) that should vault her right into title contention against rhea or becky (nope) I think lasting as the final two in two of the years biggest gimmick matches by pinning/eliminating Jade, Belair and Stratton is a good sign. Not the way I'd booked her, but as been said ' can't change the past. That's more meaningful pins that she's had so far in her career if we don't count Ronda Rousey. I was thrilled that she was pretty much the fan fave when battling against Becky Lynch. By Money in the Bank (aka. The Liv PLE) they'll might have her end Rhea's reign.
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