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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 9, 2022 7:06:53 GMT -5
Liv over Sasha is definitely a pretty surprising result. I guess they want to build Liv up a bit so Rhea will look more impressive when she beats her after they split up on Monday. That was Sasha's first clean loss in a year.
Well she is a Tag Team Champion now and whenever you become a Tag Team Champion or a midcard champion in WWE you instantly become a loser. Doesn't matter who you are. Then the question from here to ask is who could Morgan beat to get some credibility for herself, that actually has any? The only heel woman on the entire main roster that is on a winning run is Charlotte Flair, a whopping total of one consecutive win. Every other heel is on a losing run of some sort: 2 - Becky Lynch, Natalya 3 - Shayna Baszler 4 - Sonya Deville 5 - Doudrop 7 - Shotzi 8 - Carmella 9 - Queen Zelina 10 - Nikki A.S.H. 18 - Tamina Of that list, I'd say it's pretty much only Lynch and maybe Baszler. Every other heel has nothing to give, it's all been beaten out of them. And of the faces, the only ones on a winning run were Bianca Belair (+8), Sasha Banks (+5 before this match), Naomi (+4), Dana Brooke (+3, these coming in the 24/7 division so it doesn't really count) and technically Xia Li (+1), who's had all of one televised match in nine months. All the other babyfaces (Alexa Bliss, Aliyah, Rhea Ripley and Ronda Rousey) are either on losing runs or aren't available.
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Post by tenshi on Apr 10, 2022 17:09:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2022 23:35:09 GMT -5
In case someone is interested... Already over 10,000 $ as I expected!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 18:13:28 GMT -5
Lol, if I'm spending 10 thousand bucks, her and Rhea better be coming over to actually whip me with it in those outfits.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 11, 2022 20:43:20 GMT -5
Liv beating Sasha then losing to Naomi was a choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 21:54:00 GMT -5
Liv beating Sasha then losing to Naomi was a choice. Liv winning that match straight after beating Sasha would've been a great underdog story, a genuine star making moment! > I'm still holding out for hope that Liv 4 Brutality actually gets the belts instead of splitting, now that they're just trading wins...
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 11, 2022 22:17:25 GMT -5
It also would have made more Sense if Rhea is going to turn on her as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 18:43:40 GMT -5
Looks like the tag team title match is actually finally happening tonight... Anyone want to bet money on Liv for Brutality winning? > Don't break up my heart tonight, WWE!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 19:36:37 GMT -5
Welp, the turn did happen! They were so sweet together. Hopefully they'll get time at WrestleMania Backlash to put on a banger of a match!
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 18, 2022 22:08:01 GMT -5
Well... at least she's the #3 babyface, now?
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Post by tenshi on Apr 18, 2022 22:08:28 GMT -5
Rhea wasn't a fan of Liv hanging out with Bayley and Lana at wedding parties and not inviting her over, huh?
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 18, 2022 22:15:14 GMT -5
Rhea wasn't a fan of Liv hanging out with Bayley and Lana at wedding parties and not inviting her over, huh? Maybe she's pissed Liv sold the whip.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 15:36:37 GMT -5
Looks like the tag team title match is actually finally happening tonight... Anyone want to bet money on Liv for Brutality winning? > Don't break up my heart tonight, WWE! Welp, the turn did happen! They were so sweet together. Hopefully they'll get time at WrestleMania Backlash to put on a banger of a match! Man, these are the saddest back to back posts I've seen in a while.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 19, 2022 23:23:45 GMT -5
Looks like the tag team title match is actually finally happening tonight... Anyone want to bet money on Liv for Brutality winning? > Don't break up my heart tonight, WWE! Welp, the turn did happen! They were so sweet together. Hopefully they'll get time at WrestleMania Backlash to put on a banger of a match! Man, these are the saddest back to back posts I've seen in a while. It never ceases to amaze me how optimistic he always stays through this never ending cycle of pain and misery. I think that's what makes it even more sad. It's actually making me root for her even more to win a belt or accomplish ANYTHING. If it ever happens we need to throw him like a huge party or something.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 20, 2022 5:53:50 GMT -5
Man, these are the saddest back to back posts I've seen in a while. It never ceases to amaze me how optimistic he always stays through this never ending cycle of pain and misery. I think that's what makes it even more sad. It's actually making me root for her even more to win a belt or accomplish ANYTHING. If it ever happens we need to throw him like a huge party or something.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 20, 2022 5:58:16 GMT -5
Man, these are the saddest back to back posts I've seen in a while. It never ceases to amaze me how optimistic he always stays through this never ending cycle of pain and misery. I think that's what makes it even more sad. It's actually making me root for her even more to win a belt or accomplish ANYTHING. If it ever happens we need to throw him like a huge party or something. I appreciate the friggin’ loyalty more than anything. Nothing’s gonna get him down, he’s standing by his woman. As opposed to a lot of fans who only want to be on the bandwagon for the good times.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 20, 2022 6:24:31 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me how optimistic he always stays through this never ending cycle of pain and misery. I think that's what makes it even more sad. It's actually making me root for her even more to win a belt or accomplish ANYTHING. If it ever happens we need to throw him like a huge party or something. I appreciate the friggin’ loyalty more than anything. Nothing’s gonna get him down, he’s standing by his woman. As opposed to a lot of fans who only want to be on the bandwagon for the good times. It kind of reminds me of being a fan of your local sports team who never wins crap (I'm from Milwaukee so I'm unfortunately very familiar this between the Brewers who have yet to win a title despite being around over 50 years and the Bucks who had only won one in about the same amount of time and none in my lifetime until FINALLY winning the Championship last year). There's glimmers of hope here and there that makes you think maybe it's finally going to be time and they just break your heart every time. However you still keep cheering and supporting and don't give up through the hope (that unfortunately likely could be blind) that it will someday happen. When it comes to Liv though this recent setback is pretty deflating. Like they still couldn't even give her a freaking Tag Title even when she had a near chosen one has her partner. I mean they can give the likes Nikki A.S.H., Zelina, and Tamina runs despite being in far inferior teams but not her. Why do they hate this poor girl so much is something I don't think I will ever know.
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Post by msc on Apr 20, 2022 6:41:10 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me how optimistic he always stays through this never ending cycle of pain and misery. I think that's what makes it even more sad. It's actually making me root for her even more to win a belt or accomplish ANYTHING. If it ever happens we need to throw him like a huge party or something. I appreciate the friggin’ loyalty more than anything. Nothing’s gonna get him down, he’s standing by his woman. As opposed to a lot of fans who only want to be on the bandwagon for the good times. Fandom is for life (short of Benoit'ing it). Liv Morgan does seem determined to improve in the ring (and has). At some point, in some wrestling company, she'll get a reward, and I'm sure the Liv fans will celebrate like the Drew Mac Bandwagon celebrated 2020. (And understandable too - I was a fan of Molly in WCW, I was a fan of her in WWE, and if she un-retired tomorrow and beat the entire roster clean in a Reign of Terror, I'd still mark out tbh.)
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 20, 2022 6:48:43 GMT -5
Why do they hate this poor girl so much is something I don't think I will ever know. I wish there was some way to disassociate on-screen booking from the whole “This is how the office feels” thing, because there will never be a solution to it. The whole premise of this stupid nonsense revolves around someone picking who wins and who loses, and for Liv Morgan to win more often, someone else has to lose more often to make up the difference, and then their fans will be up in arms about how the office hates them. It’s zero-sum, win cannot exist independently of loss. Will Liv Morgan ever get her flowers? I can’t answer that because I don’t know. I doubt anyone in WWE knows. And that’s why all we can do is ride it out and hope for the best.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 20, 2022 7:03:47 GMT -5
Why do they hate this poor girl so much is something I don't think I will ever know. I wish there was some way to disassociate on-screen booking from the whole “This is how the office feels” thing, because there will never be a solution to it. The whole premise of this stupid nonsense revolves around someone picking who wins and who loses, and for Liv Morgan to win more often, someone else has to lose more often to make up the difference, and then their fans will be up in arms about how the office hates them. It’s zero-sum, win cannot exist independently of loss. Will Liv Morgan ever get her flowers? I can’t answer that because I don’t know. I doubt anyone in WWE knows. And that’s why all we can do is ride it out and hope for the best. I understand what you mean with someone having to lose especially with how depleted the rosters are (case in point Liv is literally only one of two faces on Raw right now along with Bianca. I'm not even counting Dana who isn't even involved with Women's Division and Alexa who they never use.) What I don't get is why is like literally every other woman gets a bone thrown their way at some point except her. At least as far as woman who have been around at least three years goes. At the same time she's avoided several of the mass releases so I guess they must see at least something in her. Yet they refuse to ever give her anything for some reason. I guess maybe it's part of their plan so it's a real big deal when/if she finally does win something.
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