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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2022 11:55:56 GMT -5
Original: Not sure how the board treats these sources, _but_ WrestleTalk reported today that more WWE releases/firings could be coming soon, citing the Mat Men podcast. While the report seems to be focusing on NXT UK, SRS has given assurances that Keith Lee is _not_ among those on the block. Thoughts>? Complete List of Talent as of June 26 2021 This is the list of listed roster or regularly-appearing talents who have been let go since the start of the pandemic... Aiden English Akam Aleister Black Alexander Wolfe Andrade Ari Sterling Ariya Daivari Arturo Ruas Asher Hale August Grey Bo Dallas Bobby Fish Braun Strowman Bray Wyatt Bronson Reed Buddy Murphy Cezar Bononi Chase Parker Curt Hawkins Curtis Axel Daniel Bryan (technically) Dash Wilder David Hart-Smith Drake Maverick (since rehired) EC3 Epico Colon Eric Young Erick Rowan Fandango Gran Metalik Heath Slater Jack Gallagher* Jake Atlas Jeet Rama Kalisto Karl Anderson Karrion Kross Kassius Ohno Keith Lee Killian Dain Kona Reeves Lars Sullivan* Leon Ruff Ligero* Lince Dorado Lio Rush Luke Gallows Matt Martel Mike Kanellis Mojo Rawley No Way Jose Oney Lorcan Primo Colon Rezar Rusev Samir Singh Samoa Joe (since rehired) Scott Dawson Steve Cutler Sunil Singh Tony Nese Travis Banks* Trey Baxter Tucker Tyler Breeze Tyler Rust Velveteen Dream* Wesley Blake Zack Ryder --- B-Fab Billie Kay Chelsea Green Deonna Purrazzo Ember Moon Eva Marie Franky Monet Jessamyn Duke Jessi Kamea Katrina Cortez Lana Maria Kanellis Marina Shafir Mercedes Martinez Mia Yim Mickie James Nia Jax Peyton Royce Ruby Riott Sarah Logan Scarlett Taynara Conti Vanessa Borne Zayda Ramier Zelina Vega (since rehired) (*These talents were known problematic types, but they were cut all the same) And then you have commentary and interviewer staff like Mauro Ranallo, Renee Young, Tom Phillips, Cathy Kelley, Charly Caruso and, yes, Adnan Virk. A few scattered referees including Mike Chioda who had been there forever, some big name legends like Big Show, Gerald Brisco, Kurt Angle and Mark Henry that were fountains of knowledge for everybody. Not to mention people that didn't even make it out of the PC like Ezra Judge or Skyler Story. This could be a new company all of its own, one that would be perfectly watchable with a great variety of talent archetypes. Instead it's just utter mindless carnage. Most Recent Releases: *Ariya Daivari. *Arturo Ruas. *August Grey. *The Bollywood Boyz (Gurvinder Sihra & Harvinder Sihra) *Curt Stallion. *Ever-Rise (Chase Parker & Matt Martel) *Fandango. *Killian Dain. *Marina Shafir. *Tony Nese. *Tyler Breeze. July 31 2021: Bray Wyatt August 2 2021: Ric Flair Date unknown: JoJo Offerman Samoa Joe and Zelina are the only ones to get rehired.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 11:57:31 GMT -5
When it comes to the succession plan I think it is gonna end up being the Disney route where it is two people instead of 1 running the ship.
Khan will likely be the CEO who runs the day to day but Stephanie is gonna be the chairman of the board where she holds the most power without having to do the day to day stuff other but still sets the course for the whole companys direction and can fire Khan if he isn't running the company in the direction she set.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2022 12:02:04 GMT -5
When it comes to the succession plan I think it is gonna end up being the Disney route where it is two people instead of 1 running the ship. Khan will likely be the CEO who runs the day to day but Stephanie is gonna be the chairman of the board where she holds the most power without having to do the day to day stuff other but still sets the course for the whole companys direction and can fire Khan if he isn't running the company in the direction she set. I can live with that.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 6, 2022 13:09:52 GMT -5
Look at Omos and Azeez, that's the level of "training" Vince's happy with putting on national TV as long as it's big beefy men. And we're going to be seeing a lot more big beefy men coming up, I'm sure. Yeah. This is going to be bad. It's going to be more Mordecai, Luther Reigns, Sylvan, Heidenreich types. They're kinda f***ed once this current crop of top guys retires given the level of athleticism that's out there right now. It is wild watching WWE prepare to shift from one of the most talented rosters in the company's history to all the worst parts of New Generation and Ruthless Aggression combined, and doing it on purpose.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 6, 2022 13:55:53 GMT -5
So which one of vince’s hencemen is getting their jollies tearing down all that HHH built with NXT ? The soon Vince is gone the better because the yes men will be out the door. I never thought I’d say this but I really really hope when vince either retires or dies that Stephanie and HHH use the family voting power and turn this ship around and f*** out all the shit that’s made an all already dislikable company even more unlikeable. Triple H and Stephanie are never going to be in charge. Stephanie might get to run a department but she's a long time removed from being in any really meaningful role in the company and has basically no real meaningful track record of success, she's someone they can trot out when a magazine wants to run a puff piece but she has no real credentials. Triple H meanwhile is an outsider without any significant business experience who's lost most of his power in the company and at this point likely legitimately couldn't physically handle the stress of greater responsibilities. If Vince were to die tomorrow, those yes men would be the ones running things while Nick Khan prepped it to sell to the highest bidder and then the new owners would continue to have those yes men run the day-to-day. Nick Khan cannot sell the company without Vinces stock. Vince owns the vast majority of voting stock. Nick Khan is an employee of WWE. He is Vinces hit man. He cannot do anything that the majority stockholders do not want him to do. Unless there is a pre nup then when Vince dies all his stock is Lindas. If they die together than it is a will situation. Vince may have everything go to his kids then Shane and Steph can fight it out how they want the company run. Vince may have where his stock is sold to Saudi Arabia and the money goes to Shane and Steph. In which case Trip can afford to start his own promotion. If Vince dies but not Linda she may let Steph and Shane take over or let the yes men run things. Who knows. But one thing we do know is Nick Khan cannot do anything without the approval of whoever owns the majority stock. Right now Vince.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 6, 2022 13:58:18 GMT -5
Triple H and Stephanie are never going to be in charge. Stephanie might get to run a department but she's a long time removed from being in any really meaningful role in the company and has basically no real meaningful track record of success, she's someone they can trot out when a magazine wants to run a puff piece but she has no real credentials. Triple H meanwhile is an outsider without any significant business experience who's lost most of his power in the company and at this point likely legitimately couldn't physically handle the stress of greater responsibilities. If Vince were to die tomorrow, those yes men would be the ones running things while Nick Khan prepped it to sell to the highest bidder and then the new owners would continue to have those yes men run the day-to-day. Nick Khan cannot sell the company without Vinces stock. Vince owns the vast majority of voting stock. When Vince dies his stock will go to whoever he wills it to. They will control the company then. Nick Khan is an employee of WWE. He is Vinces hit man. He cannot do anything that the majority stockholders do not want him to do. Unless there is a pre nup then when Vince dies all his stock is Lindas. If they die together than it is a will situation. I didn't say he'd sell it himself, I said he'd prep it for sale. I doubt the family's going to be very invested in doing much more than cashing out on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 14:04:57 GMT -5
If Vince tries to sell IMO I absolouteley see Shane making a bid to buy it either from Vince out buy it from NBC if they end up with it.
Of all the McMahons at this point and time IMO Shane just feels like the guy that would most want that company to remain a family business and then he can pass it to his own kids etc.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 6, 2022 14:05:20 GMT -5
I don’t want to be “that guy” but would it really surprise people if, like with the UFC deal they pulled out from, that the Saudis get some stake in the company in the event of a sale/Vince’s death?
Not saying it would happen but any indication of that would likely drive shareholders mad, hence the secrecy of the entire deal.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 6, 2022 14:17:42 GMT -5
I don’t want to be “that guy” but would it really surprise people if, like with the UFC deal they pulled out from, that the Saudis get some stake in the company in the event of a sale/Vince’s death? Not saying it would happen but any indication of that would likely drive shareholders mad, hence the secrecy of the entire deal. Vince sees the documentary on the WCW/NJPW Collision in Korea show and decides to sell to the Kim family so WWE can break the record for largest (forced) crowd for a stadium sporting event in history. His final words are "AAAAAH! INOKI, BISCHOFF, EAT MY ASS!"
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 6, 2022 14:37:33 GMT -5
I don’t want to be “that guy” but would it really surprise people if, like with the UFC deal they pulled out from, that the Saudis get some stake in the company in the event of a sale/Vince’s death? Not saying it would happen but any indication of that would likely drive shareholders mad, hence the secrecy of the entire deal. Yeah, I want to know what's in that deal. Why is that the most guarded secret in the company? They'll pay out money just to keep it secret. We know the terms of every deal except that one. What the f*** are the terms of the deal?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 6, 2022 14:45:40 GMT -5
Oh, I guarantee the Saudi government is taking some kind of stake in WWE as part of this deal. It's the only real explanation for the secrecy, they tried it with UFC, and they also bought into SNK.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jan 6, 2022 14:56:37 GMT -5
Nigel and Tino also. Spud and Scott Armstrong were brought back too just to get released again.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 6, 2022 14:59:40 GMT -5
"In the event of my passing, my doofus son-in-law and idiotic daughter will inherit, most of the WWE. That is, so long as my idiotic daughter agrees to marry at least one Saudi Prince." "What do you mean at least one? Also did you call me idiotic?" "I meant doofus."
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 6, 2022 15:06:55 GMT -5
Oh, I guarantee the Saudi government is taking some kind of stake in WWE as part of this deal. It's the only real explanation for the secrecy, they tried it with UFC, and they also bought into SNK. If they acquire less than 5% of WWE then yeah, they don't have to disclose but if it was a stake worth more than 5% then WWE and the Saudi's would have to file a 13D or 13G filing and disclose that the Saudi's were investing. I would assume they'd want more than a 5% stake, so I have a hard time believing Saudi's got anything.
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Post by salz4life on Jan 6, 2022 16:44:48 GMT -5
I don’t want to be “that guy” but would it really surprise people if, like with the UFC deal they pulled out from, that the Saudis get some stake in the company in the event of a sale/Vince’s death? Not saying it would happen but any indication of that would likely drive shareholders mad, hence the secrecy of the entire deal. I actually just had this thought as well... is it possible that there is some kind or wording in the deal with the Saudis that they get the first opportunity (or something like that) of buying the company if it ever comes up for sale.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 6, 2022 17:41:45 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if in 6 months NXT UK is shut down.
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Post by john84 on Jan 6, 2022 17:53:05 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if in 6 months NXT UK is shut down. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by the end of the year either.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 6, 2022 18:40:59 GMT -5
And Joe is gone again
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jan 6, 2022 18:43:34 GMT -5
Are you f***ing kidding me.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jan 6, 2022 18:44:33 GMT -5
Triple H can't be happy about all of this.
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