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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Apr 30, 2022 14:22:01 GMT -5
I also just remembered - Dakota Kai was a champion in this company 25 days ago. Hell, four of the folks who won title matches at Stand and Deliver are not on NXT anymore. Makes those title switches even more weird. If they were planning on keeping them on Toxic Attraction going forward why not just have them retain at Stand and Deliver instead having them lose to a team consisting of one person you are sending to the main roster and another whose contract is coming up and is not renewing and then win them back anyways three days later? Planning anything isn't their strongest attribute |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 30, 2022 14:24:09 GMT -5
Makes those title switches even more weird. If they were planning on keeping them on Toxic Attraction going forward why not just have them retain at Stand and Deliver instead having them lose to a team consisting of one person you are sending to the main roster and another whose contract is coming up and is not renewing and then win them back anyways three days later? Planning anything isn't their strongest attribute This is the company that likely paid tens of thousands of dollars to shoot segments of Alistair Black in a room talking cryptically about stuff, having him attack Big E to set up a match and then went “Eh, you know what, we don’t actually need to pay that off, we can release him”. |
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Post by mistery on Apr 30, 2022 14:38:05 GMT -5
I also just remembered - Dakota Kai was a champion in this company 25 days ago. Hell, four of the folks who won title matches at Stand and Deliver are not on NXT anymore. Makes those title switches even more weird. If they were planning on keeping them on Toxic Attraction going forward why not just have them retain at Stand and Deliver instead having them lose to a team consisting of one person you are sending to the main roster and another whose contract is coming up and is not renewing and then win them back anyways three days later? Gonna guess because it was in Texas, they wanted to give Raquel a hometown victory. Also because Undertaker keeps talking her up constantly. |
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Post by avenger on Apr 30, 2022 15:45:13 GMT -5
Makes those title switches even more weird. If they were planning on keeping them on Toxic Attraction going forward why not just have them retain at Stand and Deliver instead having them lose to a team consisting of one person you are sending to the main roster and another whose contract is coming up and is not renewing and then win them back anyways three days later? Gonna guess because it was in Texas, they wanted to give Raquel a hometown victory. Also because Undertaker keeps talking her up constantly. Vince also thinks 2 time champions sounds better than 1 time champion. It's why so many reigns have short interruptions in there. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 1, 2022 11:05:30 GMT -5
I really can't wait until Indie shows up again and her husband and best friend are just not mentioned... I mean, they’ve openly been running an angle about Wes Lee losing his partner and tag belts without losing a match with zero acknowledgement that Nash Carter got released. This isn’t new territory for them |
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Post by Mecca on May 1, 2022 19:58:03 GMT -5
Meltzer says people in the company believe more are coming before the investor call.
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Post by mistery on May 1, 2022 20:05:40 GMT -5
Meltzer says people in the company believe more are coming before the investor call. Yeah, he specifically mentioned that he expects some main roster cuts now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 20:11:35 GMT -5
Meltzer says people in the company believe more are coming before the investor call. It is gonna be a reverse with this one person because in this case Shotzi needs her release because after SD (THEY f***ING PROTECTED ALIYAH OVER HER!) horseshit she will be better off practically anywhere else. As for anyone else idk and not gonna start guessing. |
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Post by Mecca on May 1, 2022 20:17:11 GMT -5
Meltzer says people in the company believe more are coming before the investor call. It is gonna be a reverse with this one person because in this case Shotzi needs her release because after SD (THEY f***ING PROTECTED ALIYAH OVER HER!) horseshit she will be better off practically anywhere else. As for anyone else idk and not gonna start guessing. I have a pretty good idea of who's probably on that list, it's not nice to speculate about people being fired though. |
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Post by mistery on May 1, 2022 20:25:33 GMT -5
Like assuming what Dave reports is true (and his stories have been very hit/miss when it comes to WWE as of late, plus Fightful hasn't even heard of this happening), the rosters are going to be completely razor thin at this point. Like realistically, WWE can't cut any more talents without starting to harm their overall product, because people are going to start tuning out when 60 minutes of RAW is just recaps. Or that we are getting The Miz vs Bobby Lashley six weeks in a row.
And if they decide to go back and gut NXT even further, the show may as well just be cancelled at that point. Because they can't afford to cut anyone else down there either. Especially with a bunch of the angles on the show completely sucking right now due to how green or outright terrible the talent in it is.
Like...they've cut an insane number of people on their roster to boost quarterly profits, but it seems like Nick Khan (and WWE in general) is seeming to forget that TV deals are coming up soonish, and if ratings start to tank because he just can't stop cutting people, then while NBCU will probably keep RAW around, it'll be at a lower rate. As for FOX, they'll just tell WWE to kick rocks. And losing out on those TV deals is going to severely impact WWE's bottom line/stock value more than roster cuts will. And if WWE loses their FOX deal, it's a safe bet that Nick Khan is going to find himself unemployed because the stockholders will demand his head.
That's ignoring Nick Khan's BRILLIANT idea to run more and more stadium shows which are going to have diminishing returns.
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Post by Mecca on May 1, 2022 20:34:28 GMT -5
Like assuming what Dave reports is true (and his stories have been very hit/miss when it comes to WWE as of late, plus Fightful hasn't even heard of this happening), the rosters are going to be completely razor thin at this point. Like realistically, WWE can't cut any more talents without starting to harm their overall product, because people are going to start tuning out when 60 minutes of RAW is just recaps. Or that we are getting The Miz vs Bobby Lashley six weeks in a row. And if they decide to go back and gut NXT even further, the show may as well just be cancelled at that point. Because they can't afford to cut anyone else down there either. Especially with a bunch of the angles on the show completely sucking right now due to how green or outright terrible the talent in it is. Like...they've cut an insane number of people on their roster to boost quarterly profits, but it seems like Nick Khan (and WWE in general) is seeming to forget that TV deals are coming up soonish, and if ratings start to tank because he just can't stop cutting people, then while NBCU will probably keep RAW around, it'll be at a lower rate. As for FOX, they'll just tell WWE to kick rocks. And losing out on those TV deals is going to severely impact WWE's bottom line/stock value more than roster cuts will. I guarantee they think the current ratings are their low point, this is the base that won't ever leave. I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they start fast tracking NXT people to the main roster that they like... |
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Post by knsffa on May 1, 2022 20:40:29 GMT -5
Like assuming what Dave reports is true (and his stories have been very hit/miss when it comes to WWE as of late, plus Fightful hasn't even heard of this happening), the rosters are going to be completely razor thin at this point. Like realistically, WWE can't cut any more talents without starting to harm their overall product, because people are going to start tuning out when 60 minutes of RAW is just recaps. Or that we are getting The Miz vs Bobby Lashley six weeks in a row. And if they decide to go back and gut NXT even further, the show may as well just be cancelled at that point. Because they can't afford to cut anyone else down there either. Especially with a bunch of the angles on the show completely sucking right now due to how green or outright terrible the talent in it is. Like...they've cut an insane number of people on their roster to boost quarterly profits, but it seems like Nick Khan (and WWE in general) is seeming to forget that TV deals are coming up soonish, and if ratings start to tank because he just can't stop cutting people, then while NBCU will probably keep RAW around, it'll be at a lower rate. As for FOX, they'll just tell WWE to kick rocks. And losing out on those TV deals is going to severely impact WWE's bottom line/stock value more than roster cuts will. I guarantee they think the current ratings are their low point, this is the base that won't ever leave. I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they start fast tracking NXT people to the main roster that they like... Well f*** they had an audience who was loyal to the previous version who didn't all abandon ship to AEW. Some people, ya know, watched both shows too. I recall when I could enjoy 4 hours of in-ring centric wrestling programs on Wednesday night. Then they turned NXT into something else, managing to keep some of the former alive with certain persons or matches. But that was cause those people were around and to get a large crowd at S&D. They chased the vets away or released them, poorly used talent on the main roster, are depleting UK of talent to use as 'vets' and pretty much told those who stayed loyal to NXT their support meant nothing last September. They did 2.0 to create the stars Vince wants cause apparently the others weren't good enough to make into stars. Now the thing that helps create stars: veterans to learn from, are being made lesser. At this rate they may send Finlay, Smiley, etc away and replace them with ex-football coaches. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 1, 2022 21:43:26 GMT -5
I also just remembered - Dakota Kai was a champion in this company 25 days ago. Hell, four of the folks who won title matches at Stand and Deliver are not on NXT anymore. Which only compounds everything that is wrong with these releases. I don't want to see anyone lose their jobs, but there's a big difference between releasing someone who hasn't been on television in months and releasing someone who was just champion, or someone who is literally part of a storyline currently in progress. You're not just telling the audience not to care about the stories being told on-screen, you're telling the talent that. Doesn't matter if you're over, doesn't matter if you're in a storyline, doesn't matter if you were in the title scene just last month, if we arbitrarily decide you gotta go, best of luck in your future endeavors. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 1, 2022 21:45:13 GMT -5
I also just remembered - Dakota Kai was a champion in this company 25 days ago. Hell, four of the folks who won title matches at Stand and Deliver are not on NXT anymore. Which only compounds everything that is wrong with these releases. I don't want to see anyone lose their jobs, but there's a big difference between releasing someone who hasn't been on television in months and releasing someone who was just champion, or someone who is literally part of a storyline currently in progress. You're not just telling the audience not to care about the stories being told on-screen, you're telling the talent that. Doesn't matter if you're over, doesn't matter if you're in a storyline, doesn't matter if you were in the title scene just last month, if we arbitrarily decide you gotta go, best of luck in your future endeavors. again they released Braun like two weeks after he was in the title match... |
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Post by CeilingFan on May 2, 2022 6:16:41 GMT -5
Apparently, these releases will happen frequently.
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Post by mistery on May 2, 2022 6:22:57 GMT -5
Unless Cultaholic became reliable all of a sudden, I wouldn't post that here.
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Post by Push R Truth on May 2, 2022 7:46:28 GMT -5
*lights a candle and prays for Shotzi*
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on May 2, 2022 7:52:43 GMT -5
*lights a candle and prays for Shotzi* To be kept on or let go? |
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Post by Push R Truth on May 2, 2022 7:55:05 GMT -5
*lights a candle and prays for Shotzi* To be kept on or let go? Well you see, um hey LOOK OVER THERE |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 2, 2022 7:57:25 GMT -5
I don't trust Cultaholic unless more people back it up, but given how quick the cycle seems to be now for Vince and company to have people shape up, ship out, conform, or perish, it would not shock me if they started doing this.
I mean the pandemic released felt like they happened every few weeks at one point, the fact it's not even a crazy idea is depressing.
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