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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 9:45:12 GMT -5
EBWOP Like, two things can happen if we skip. Mafia kills at night phase so we're down one. Or mafia just let's it drag it out by killing no one, leading to a stale mate. Mafia cant choose not to killSo if we let then kill one more ,it is one less suspect.It is a risky play but one we can consider. I need to hear from everyone why they are town,how they have proven they are. No one isguatanteed innocent here
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 9:47:21 GMT -5
Basically we have 4.
If we lynch one wand miss we go down to 3.Mafia kills someone and we lose because there is 2 left.We dont vote ,mafia kills one and we have 3 left.Making it a 1/3 chance to get it right opposite to 1/4
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 9:52:53 GMT -5
Bur that is only if we ar willing to gamble,first I really need to hear from everyone why they are town
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 13, 2021 10:15:36 GMT -5
I'm down to gamble, and since I've fired my perverbial last shot, it's time to let the cat out of the bag.
Hi Town, I'm Asuka, your jack of all trades whose made the last two nights miserable for the Mafia.
My role gave me three night actions, one investigation, one protection, and one kill. First night I investigated Double H, he came back Town. Second night I protected myself and got lucky since Mafia came for me, third night, well you see what I did to Platypus.
So Double H, you and I are the voting bloc here. Obviously with this information Cthulhu will vote for John, John will vote for Cthulhu. It's going to be on us to decide whether we win or lose as town because now if we don't vote, one of us will die tonight because we are the two known town and Mafia would be best to force you into a coin flip scenario.
Welcome to the endgame now Double H, hope you have the stomach for it.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 11:54:51 GMT -5
I'm down to gamble, and since I've fired my perverbial last shot, it's time to let the cat out of the bag. Hi Town, I'm Asuka, your jack of all trades whose made the last two nights miserable for the Mafia. My role gave me three night actions, one investigation, one protection, and one kill. First night I investigated Double H, he came back Town. Second night I protected myself and got lucky since Mafia came for me, third night, well you see what I did to Platypus. So Double H, you and I are the voting bloc here. Obviously with this information Cthulhu will vote for John, John will vote for Cthulhu. It's going to be on us to decide whether we win or lose as town because now if we don't vote, one of us will die tonight because we are the two known town and Mafia would be best to force you into a coin flip scenario. Welcome to the endgame now Double H, hope you have the stomach for it. So wait what exactly happened night two?Did you have a one shot kill?
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 12:00:29 GMT -5
I'm down to gamble, and since I've fired my perverbial last shot, it's time to let the cat out of the bag. Hi Town, I'm Asuka, your jack of all trades whose made the last two nights miserable for the Mafia. My role gave me three night actions, one investigation, one protection, and one kill. First night I investigated Double H, he came back Town. Second night I protected myself and got lucky since Mafia came for me, third night, well you see what I did to Platypus. So Double H, you and I are the voting bloc here. Obviously with this information Cthulhu will vote for John, John will vote for Cthulhu. It's going to be on us to decide whether we win or lose as town because now if we don't vote, one of us will die tonight because we are the two known town and Mafia would be best to force you into a coin flip scenario. Welcome to the endgame now Double H, hope you have the stomach for it. Also,adding,since you protect yourself night 2 ,are you saying we may not have a doctor after all?I was sure it was a doctor protecting me or tyger night 2.
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 13, 2021 12:46:55 GMT -5
I'm down to gamble, and since I've fired my perverbial last shot, it's time to let the cat out of the bag. Hi Town, I'm Asuka, your jack of all trades whose made the last two nights miserable for the Mafia. My role gave me three night actions, one investigation, one protection, and one kill. First night I investigated Double H, he came back Town. Second night I protected myself and got lucky since Mafia came for me, third night, well you see what I did to Platypus. So Double H, you and I are the voting bloc here. Obviously with this information Cthulhu will vote for John, John will vote for Cthulhu. It's going to be on us to decide whether we win or lose as town because now if we don't vote, one of us will die tonight because we are the two known town and Mafia would be best to force you into a coin flip scenario. Welcome to the endgame now Double H, hope you have the stomach for it. Also,adding,since you protect yourself night 2 ,are you saying we may not have a doctor after all?I was sure it was a doctor protecting me or tyger night 2. No, I believe we don't have a doctor. I made it up on Day 3 that there was a doctor to see if someone would claim, knowing that I protected myself and I could out them as scum for a claim I knew was false. No one bit.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 12:53:22 GMT -5
Also,adding,since you protect yourself night 2 ,are you saying we may not have a doctor after all?I was sure it was a doctor protecting me or tyger night 2. No, I believe we don't have a doctor. I made it up on Day 3 that there was a doctor to see if someone would claim, knowing that I protected myself and I could out them as scum for a claim I knew was false. No one bit. But wouldnt there be a chance that the town doctor saved someone instead of you saving yourself?Like if there IS one, it is a good idea to say so now and come clean about everything.
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 13, 2021 14:21:40 GMT -5
No, I believe we don't have a doctor. I made it up on Day 3 that there was a doctor to see if someone would claim, knowing that I protected myself and I could out them as scum for a claim I knew was false. No one bit. But wouldnt there be a chance that the town doctor saved someone instead of you saving yourself?Like if there IS one, it is a good idea to say so now and come clean about everything. Are you prone to overthinking Double H? This isn't that hard. It's Cthulhu or Jono
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 15:37:21 GMT -5
But wouldnt there be a chance that the town doctor saved someone instead of you saving yourself?Like if there IS one, it is a good idea to say so now and come clean about everything. Are you prone to overthinking Double H? This isn't that hard. It's Cthulhu or Jono I mean there could be a town doctor still. It is not out of possibilities,if there was. I assume it is either of then the mafia too but i'm not gonna rule out this option yet.But you know we kinda need either of then to speak before anything else But between then,who do you think is the most likely?
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 13, 2021 17:51:36 GMT -5
I’m Lana, vanilla townie.
We have two more days to figure this out, I don’t know why Jazzman is so anxious to rush to a decision.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 13, 2021 17:57:49 GMT -5
That being said, I have zero reason to doubt his claim.
And I did say before I figured Produce and Jazzman were different alignments.
The main thing I can say in my defense is I never voted for Taker or Mr. B, who both flipped town, and I did vote for Produceman, who flipped scum.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jun 13, 2021 18:15:24 GMT -5
So here is a belated bah post.
I apologize about kind of falling off in terms of activity towards the end. I don't blame anybody for pushing for the lynch. Given the circumstances, I would've done the exact same thing. Just been dealing with a few things that have made staying consistent more difficult then I would like.
Best of luck to everybody still alive. I have the utmost faith that the town can win this.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 13, 2021 19:18:55 GMT -5
That being said, I have zero reason to doubt his claim. And I did say before I figured Produce and Jazzman were different alignments. The main thing I can say in my defense is I never voted for Taker or Mr. B, who both flipped town, and I did vote for Produceman, who flipped scum. those are very very solid points
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 13, 2021 21:08:04 GMT -5
I’m Lana, vanilla townie. We have two more days to figure this out, I don’t know why Jazzman is so anxious to rush to a decision. I'm not rushing. I'm just spelling out what the deal is. No point for cards at the chest, we either win or lose today because no lynch is now not an option
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 14, 2021 1:58:19 GMT -5
Looking back, it kinda feels like I'm in an unfortunate spot right now. Voted Double H on day 1, and stuck the vote on him for a while in day 2. Voted the wrong guy on day 2. Without realizing it, became the deciding vote on Mr B who was town on day 3. Due to a misunderstood joke, also voted on Tyger on day 2 which kept me up at night.
So, basically, I was off on my hunches throughout the game.
That said, I'm town, with no role to speak of to give me a leg to stand on in reaffirming myself as town. Played a bit too aggressively against the wrong people. And that's mostly it; made the mistake on the game before this at not needling the ones too quiet, now I just needled to much and was wrong.
Never voted on Jazzman, partially due to past experience. Stuck with Double H, mostly since I felt my vote on day 1 was buried under what happened after my vote.
I did vote for Jonathan Michaels though, since near the end I felt that Tyger had something there when he was pressuring JoMo.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 14, 2021 10:45:47 GMT -5
EBWOP
So I did another reread of the game, and one thing did stick on my mind. At the end of day 2, Tyger asked JoMo three things. Asking about Produceman, asking what he brings to town, and what should be done on day 3.
For the third question, JoMo said is to hear from Platypus the first time, and the second time he said we should look hard on Platypus. Through my own fault, I may have planted the seeds to question MrB, and I definitely cast the deciding vote on him because I didn't read through day 3's vote.
But JoMo despite his reply to Tyger, really didn't do much. One post to question Platypus, but not much else after that.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 14, 2021 20:26:11 GMT -5
I missed most of day 3 because of work.
What we should establish before it gets down to Cthulhu vs Me, is this.
Jazzman, do you have any reason whatsoever to doubt Double H?
Double H, same question, is there anything at all that might cast doubt on Jazzman?
If not, excellent, then we can get down to brass tacks.
If so, they need to be addressed immediately before it’s too late.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 14, 2021 20:31:19 GMT -5
To clarify, we know for a fact that there can’t be two scum left, otherwise the game would be over already, yes?
Jazzman, you said you investigated H and he showed town, I don’t have any reason to dispute that, however, do you have any reason to think that Mafia could have had a power that could have interfered with the investigation, or that H could have a scum role that shows town to an investigation.
I strongly think that isn’t the case, but we have to be sure, ignoring the little things is exactly what can cost us this game.
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 14, 2021 21:00:48 GMT -5
To clarify, we know for a fact that there can’t be two scum left, otherwise the game would be over already, yes? Jazzman, you said you investigated H and he showed town, I don’t have any reason to dispute that, however, do you have any reason to think that Mafia could have had a power that could have interfered with the investigation, or that H could have a scum role that shows town to an investigation. I strongly think that isn’t the case, but we have to be sure, ignoring the little things is exactly what can cost us this game. Jono, welcome back to the game and thanks for asking a question moving toward something good here. So there is only two ways that could happen. One, Double H is godfather and he's been playing way to far out front for me to think that. Not saying it's impossible just saying it's unlikely. The other way would be if the framer had loke a double reverse where if he framer a scum they read town, but I've never seen the role work in that kind of way. So yeah, I trust Double H. It's a loose trust, as all trusts are in Mafia but I investigated him as town, I believe in my investigation. And so here's the other thing, if it's 2 v 2 the game would be over once we reached night phase technically, but really the GM could call it during day because the vote would be a tie, so yeah. My guess is we're 3 v 1. If we're wrong here it's over, if we're right we win, and we can't wait and no lynch because then either me or Double H die in the night and the remainder basically flips a coin to determine win or lose on Day 5
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