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Post by Dub H on Jun 14, 2021 21:34:35 GMT -5
I missed most of day 3 because of work. What we should establish before it gets down to Cthulhu vs Me, is this. Jazzman, do you have any reason whatsoever to doubt Double H? Double H, same question, is there anything at all that might cast doubt on Jazzman? If not, excellent, then we can get down to brass tacks. If so, they need to be addressed immediately before it’s too late. The only thing that can cast doubt on Jazzman is if someone else killed Platypus,because no one else claimed to do so or have show proof they could.Only.Jazzman,if anyone can find another reason why platypus died,say so.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 14, 2021 23:19:01 GMT -5
To clarify, we know for a fact that there can’t be two scum left, otherwise the game would be over already, yes? Jazzman, you said you investigated H and he showed town, I don’t have any reason to dispute that, however, do you have any reason to think that Mafia could have had a power that could have interfered with the investigation, or that H could have a scum role that shows town to an investigation. I strongly think that isn’t the case, but we have to be sure, ignoring the little things is exactly what can cost us this game. Jono, welcome back to the game and thanks for asking a question moving toward something good here. So there is only two ways that could happen. One, Double H is godfather and he's been playing way to far out front for me to think that. Not saying it's impossible just saying it's unlikely. The other way would be if the framer had loke a double reverse where if he framer a scum they read town, but I've never seen the role work in that kind of way. So yeah, I trust Double H. It's a loose trust, as all trusts are in Mafia but I investigated him as town, I believe in my investigation. And so here's the other thing, if it's 2 v 2 the game would be over once we reached night phase technically, but really the GM could call it during day because the vote would be a tie, so yeah. My guess is we're 3 v 1. If we're wrong here it's over, if we're right we win, and we can't wait and no lynch because then either me or Double H die in the night and the remainder basically flips a coin to determine win or lose on Day 5 I'm guessing that either you or Double H are town. If you're town, then most likely Double H is due to the fact that you mentioned your role and you said he was on the up and up, if I'm using that phrase right. Of course, there's the possibility that you and Double H are mafia. The role you mentioned seems overly convenient... But I'm willing to trust that you're telling the truth. You made it clear that me and JoMo are the most suspect. At this point, Double H feels town, and if you're mafia it won't make sense to stick with him.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 14, 2021 23:56:22 GMT -5
Jono, welcome back to the game and thanks for asking a question moving toward something good here. So there is only two ways that could happen. One, Double H is godfather and he's been playing way to far out front for me to think that. Not saying it's impossible just saying it's unlikely. The other way would be if the framer had loke a double reverse where if he framer a scum they read town, but I've never seen the role work in that kind of way. So yeah, I trust Double H. It's a loose trust, as all trusts are in Mafia but I investigated him as town, I believe in my investigation. And so here's the other thing, if it's 2 v 2 the game would be over once we reached night phase technically, but really the GM could call it during day because the vote would be a tie, so yeah. My guess is we're 3 v 1. If we're wrong here it's over, if we're right we win, and we can't wait and no lynch because then either me or Double H die in the night and the remainder basically flips a coin to determine win or lose on Day 5 I'm guessing that either you or Double H are town. If you're town, then most likely Double H is due to the fact that you mentioned your role and you said he was on the up and up, if I'm using that phrase right. Of course, there's the possibility that you and Double H are mafia. The role you mentioned seems overly convenient... But I'm willing to trust that you're telling the truth. You made it clear that me and JoMo are the most suspect. At this point, Double H feels town, and if you're mafia it won't make sense to stick with him. it is literally impossible for me and him to be mafia at same time, the game would have ended. But there is no either way around it,we need to choose one. Personally due to past story you are the one we should vote for,as you dint put any town-helpful votes.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 14, 2021 23:57:49 GMT -5
Vote: Cthulhu
If it is somehow one of the other two, more power to them, but this is the only choice.
I don’t know what else I can say, other than my voting record.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 15, 2021 0:56:57 GMT -5
Well I will place in here right now,if Jazzman wanna debate it ,I can always change
Vote: Cthulhu
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 1:08:25 GMT -5
Dub H you're right that I wasn't exactly helpful to town due to my votes. Wasn't around for RKTaker, though for most part his situation imploded due to himself. Was completely wrong in thinking Produceman wasn't mafia. And as for Mr B pretty much everyone voted for him, though I caused the accidental end vote. I followed my hunches, but all of it was wrong. That's my incompetence in following hunches. That said, I spent the last hour or so after my previous point reading through the thread one last time while I was eating lunch. It's less than a hunch, but as for calling it evidence you and Jazzman will have to decide on that. So, all of us voted for Mr B. Aside from one person, Jonathan Michaels. Perhaps Tyger pushed the wrong person when he began pressing Mr B, as he had mentioned to look deeper into Platypus during the previous day. Tyger asked JoMo about it, and JoMo said that we should definitely press on with Platypus. Instead of pressing from him, JoMo asked Platypus with really next to no pressure. It was forgotten about. If he really wanted to go after Platypus, he'd have pressed a bit harder or pressed him when the topic shifted to Mr B. Then, we go back to day 2. So, a little thing I felt weird in hindsight. Produceman mentioned that on previous games he played he or some other mafia would vote another mafia. I guess to take the heat off fellow mafia. I did wonder briefly about it, so I asked Big Bad Brad something. Can mafia members communicate via PM during day phases? Since I figure that will allow them to coordinate if things get dicey in a day phase? Reply I got was: no, it wouldn't be fair. So no mafia PM during day. So mafia would have no way to talk to each other via PMDidn't really feel important to me when I asked, but now I'm wondering. Produceman was getting the heat, so was Platypus and so did JoMo. Maybe Produceman mentioned mafia voting mafia as a subtle signal. JoMo who had some heat and votes would be able have a show of siding with town. Then we get to day 3 with Platypus and Mr B, and aside from some weak questioning to Platypus, JoMo dipped out once favor of the lynch started going to Mr B. And one last thing, I remember near the end of day 2 where JoMo once the heat was off him mentioned... bit long, I'll just quote it: Feels like this one is a reach, but almost kind of a brag. Surviving because someone is more suspicious than him? That's oddly poetic.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 15, 2021 1:11:26 GMT -5
Dub H you're right that I wasn't exactly helpful to town due to my votes. Wasn't around for RKTaker, though for most part his situation imploded due to himself. Was completely wrong in thinking Produceman wasn't mafia. And as for Mr B pretty much everyone voted for him, though I caused the accidental end vote. I followed my hunches, but all of it was wrong. That's my incompetence in following hunches. That said, I spent the last hour or so after my previous point reading through the thread one last time while I was eating lunch. It's less than a hunch, but as for calling it evidence you and Jazzman will have to decide on that. So, all of us voted for Mr B. Aside from one person, Jonathan Michaels. Perhaps Tyger pushed the wrong person when he began pressing Mr B, as he had mentioned to look deeper into Platypus during the previous day. Tyger asked JoMo about it, and JoMo said that we should definitely press on with Platypus. Instead of pressing from him, JoMo asked Platypus with really next to no pressure. It was forgotten about. If he really wanted to go after Platypus, he'd have pressed a bit harder or pressed him when the topic shifted to Mr B. Then, we go back to day 2. So, a little thing I felt weird in hindsight. Produceman mentioned that on previous games he played he or some other mafia would vote another mafia. I guess to take the heat off fellow mafia. I did wonder briefly about it, so I asked Big Bad Brad something. Can mafia members communicate via PM during day phases? Since I figure that will allow them to coordinate if things get dicey in a day phase? Reply I got was: no, it wouldn't be fair. So no mafia PM during day. So mafia would have no way to talk to each other via PMDidn't really feel important to me when I asked, but now I'm wondering. Produceman was getting the heat, so was Platypus and so did JoMo. Maybe Produceman mentioned mafia voting mafia as a subtle signal. JoMo who had some heat and votes would be able have a show of siding with town. Then we get to day 3 with Platypus and Mr B, and aside from some weak questioning to Platypus, JoMo dipped out once favor of the lynch started going to Mr B. And one last thing, I remember near the end of day 2 where JoMo once the heat was off him mentioned... bit long, I'll just quote it: Feels like this one is a reach, but almost kind of a brag. Surviving because someone is more suspicious than him? That's oddly poetic. Well i'm not even counting the produceman situation because it was literally either him or produceman.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 1:11:29 GMT -5
EBWOP man, my last post took too much time. Wrote a lot. Again, at that length, I really can't call it a hunch. That's what I got. Double H and Jazzman, decide with that. I may have been wrong a lot... quite a lot, but I stand with the fact that I'm town.
So, since votes have began I'll stick to my guns and hope I'm right this time.
Vote: Jonathan Michaels
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 1:13:16 GMT -5
Well i'm not even counting the produceman situation because it was literally either him or produceman. EBWOP For a while things got heated up between me and Tyger, which led to my sleep loss. May have been me or Tyger or Produceman or JoMo.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 15, 2021 1:16:07 GMT -5
Well i'm not even counting the produceman situation because it was literally either him or produceman. EBWOP For a while things got heated up between me and Tyger, which led to my sleep loss. May have been me or Tyger or Produceman or JoMo. I mean, jomo voted for produceman but it was literally either of then going to the lynch,so I dont consider it a town move as much as a "survival" move.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 1:17:53 GMT -5
I still feel that his overall inaction, especially on day 3, has something more than a hunch for me there. In fact, at this point, isn't now just another town or survival move?
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jun 15, 2021 1:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 1:22:45 GMT -5
Wait... we got less than 24 hours left? This has been one strange ride.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 15, 2021 2:13:05 GMT -5
Dub H you're right that I wasn't exactly helpful to town due to my votes. Wasn't around for RKTaker, though for most part his situation imploded due to himself. Was completely wrong in thinking Produceman wasn't mafia. And as for Mr B pretty much everyone voted for him, though I caused the accidental end vote. I followed my hunches, but all of it was wrong. That's my incompetence in following hunches. That said, I spent the last hour or so after my previous point reading through the thread one last time while I was eating lunch. It's less than a hunch, but as for calling it evidence you and Jazzman will have to decide on that. So, all of us voted for Mr B. Aside from one person, Jonathan Michaels. Perhaps Tyger pushed the wrong person when he began pressing Mr B, as he had mentioned to look deeper into Platypus during the previous day. Tyger asked JoMo about it, and JoMo said that we should definitely press on with Platypus. Instead of pressing from him, JoMo asked Platypus with really next to no pressure. It was forgotten about. If he really wanted to go after Platypus, he'd have pressed a bit harder or pressed him when the topic shifted to Mr B. Then, we go back to day 2. So, a little thing I felt weird in hindsight. Produceman mentioned that on previous games he played he or some other mafia would vote another mafia. I guess to take the heat off fellow mafia. I did wonder briefly about it, so I asked Big Bad Brad something. Can mafia members communicate via PM during day phases? Since I figure that will allow them to coordinate if things get dicey in a day phase? Reply I got was: no, it wouldn't be fair. So no mafia PM during day. So mafia would have no way to talk to each other via PMDidn't really feel important to me when I asked, but now I'm wondering. Produceman was getting the heat, so was Platypus and so did JoMo. Maybe Produceman mentioned mafia voting mafia as a subtle signal. JoMo who had some heat and votes would be able have a show of siding with town. Then we get to day 3 with Platypus and Mr B, and aside from some weak questioning to Platypus, JoMo dipped out once favor of the lynch started going to Mr B. And one last thing, I remember near the end of day 2 where JoMo once the heat was off him mentioned... bit long, I'll just quote it: Feels like this one is a reach, but almost kind of a brag. Surviving because someone is more suspicious than him? That's oddly poetic. I dont see what my conversational anecdote has to do with my innocence or guilt in this game. All I was doing was talking about the other games I play in every year and some of the people I know there.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 15, 2021 2:14:56 GMT -5
EBWOP For a while things got heated up between me and Tyger, which led to my sleep loss. May have been me or Tyger or Produceman or JoMo. I mean, jomo voted for produceman but it was literally either of then going to the lynch,so I dont consider it a town move as much as a "survival" move. Perhaps, but if one is town, they know that they are safer than whoever else is getting votes. A survival move IS a town move.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jun 15, 2021 2:23:53 GMT -5
Either way, this is stance. Town move, survival move, dance move, whatever.
I suspect JoMo, that's all there is to it for me.
He got very absent on Day 3. No vote; none for Mr B, none for Platypus.
Produceman and Platypus is mafia. Considering my vote, it's a given I'm saying that JoMo is one as well. No vote on Platypus on day 3 because one of the mafias has been voted off the day before.
And looking at mafia roles, Produceman was the framer, and Platypus was the blocker. Unless I'm wrong with roles, the framer would be the expendable one at that point due to the loss of the cop, so if a mafia would vote a mafia out to side with town, then Produceman would be the likely choice over the roleblocker.
Day 3 no vote on Platypus so he can roleblock. Had Jazzman not used his role on night 3, Platypus would be alive giving mafia an overwhelming advantage.
At this point I'm certain, or at least going all in on the belief that Jazzman and Double H are town because Jazzman's role was key on all three nights, and he had mentioned on day 2 that he knew Double H was mafia. Voting patterns of both clearly side with town.
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Post by Jazzman on Jun 15, 2021 7:48:15 GMT -5
Alright, let's see what happens.
Vote: Cthulhu
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jun 15, 2021 7:55:01 GMT -5
That's the hammer write up is coming.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jun 15, 2021 8:01:28 GMT -5
We are on the last day to find out who is behind the deaths of all the Male WWE Superstars.
We have four women left Alexa Bliss, Lana, Asuka and Becky Lynch!
They are pointing fingers at each other Becky tries to diffuse the attention to Lana saying the leader is always the one you least suspect and you all know its Lana!
Alexa and Asuka disagree as both Sasha Banks and Charlotte Flair where members of the Four Horse Women so that has to mean Becky is the Godmother!
They surround Becky and Lynch her, no pun intended.
Dead - aka Cthulhu - Becky Lynch - Mafia Godmother
Still alive Jazzman - Asuka - Jack of all Trades Jonathan Michaels - Lana - Vanilla Townie Dub H - Alexa Bliss - Town Doctor Congratulations Town wins the game!
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jun 15, 2021 8:02:41 GMT -5
Here is all the actions each night
Night 1 Double H (Alexa Bliss) used her one self heal Jazzman (Asuka) investigated Double H (Alexa Bliss) Tyger (Riott Squad) tried to look at Double H (Alexa Bliss) but got Blocked aka Cthulhu (Becky Lynch) Killed Zack Morris (Bianca Belair) Platypus Mod (Charlotte) Role Blocked Tyger (Riott Squad) Produceman (Sasha Banks) Framed: Jonathan Michaels (Lana)
Night 2 Double H (Alexa Bliss) healed Tyger (Riott Squad) Jazzman (Asuka) healed herself Tyger (Riott Squad) tried to look at Cthulhu (Becky Lynch) Platypus Mod (Charlotte) rolelocked Tyger (Riott Squad) aka Cthulhu (Becky Lynch) tried to kill Tyger (Riott Squad)
Night 3 Platypus Mod (Charlotte) roleblocks Double H (Alexa Bliss) aka Cthulhu (Becky Lynch) kills Tyger (Riott Squad) Jazzman (Asuka) kills Platypus Mod (Charlotte) Double H (Alexa Bliss) tried to protect aka Cthulhu (Becky Lynch) Tyger (Riott Squad) looked at Platypus Mod (Charlotte)
List of all the roles Produceman’ll be back - Sasha Banks - Mafia Framer RKTaker - Bayley - Town Cop aka Cthulhu - Becky Lynch - Mafia Godmother Tyger on the Radio - Riott Squad - Town Lookout Jazzman - Asuka - Jack of all Trades Zack Morris is Insane. - Bianca Belair - Vanilla Townie Jonathan Michaels Still Exists- Lana - Vanilla Townie Double H - Alexa Bliss - Town Doctor Platypus Mod - Charlotte - Mafia Role blocker MrBRulzOK - Carmella - Vanilla Townie
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