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Post by madness50 on Jun 8, 2021 0:23:18 GMT -5
That whole run was just a complete mess. He started with the most homoerotic feud in wrestling history with Triple H. Then those crap ass matches happened at Royal Rumble and No Way Out. Then he didn’t have a PPV match for a while and had a long feud with Test over Stacy. I don’t even remember when he got released from his deal. I’ve always wondered how he got the drop foot injury though? Did he have it in WCW?
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Post by Kyle Butler on Jun 8, 2021 9:44:53 GMT -5
You, The Dixie Chicks, all those Hollywood numb nuts that don’t support Freakzilla...can go STRAIGHT TO HELL! Or France, SAME DIFFERENCE!!!
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Post by jason1980s on Jun 8, 2021 12:51:36 GMT -5
He was definitely more of a WCW guy as mentioned so I don't see him being able to last very long. Also, the same for both he and Rick in 1993. WWF had one of the worst tag team divisions in years and both guys nor WWF were able to capitalize on them coming in. It sucked because no way should Quebeccers get the upper hand in the feud with Steiners moving down the card but some guys were just cut out more for other promotions and Steiners and WCW always worked well.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 8, 2021 12:55:19 GMT -5
He didn’t even make the Mania 19 card
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 8, 2021 13:22:58 GMT -5
Did Hunter deadweight him here?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 8, 2021 13:39:24 GMT -5
It really shows you messed up he was physically when he shows up three years later in TNA and can do so much more in the ring. I think they should've just understood what they were working with earlier on and had him work less and be more of a personality. But they also never really seemed to get what got him over at the end of WCW so that might not have worked.
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Post by mc74 on Jun 8, 2021 14:30:20 GMT -5
Well, we did get some memes out of it, so I guess that counts? *shrugs shoulders*
In all seriousness, it was bad. In the ring, Steiner's performances heavily suffered because of nerve damage he had sustained in his foot. An injury that was reported around April 2002. So, despite not being 100% and fully aware of the limitations, what does WWE do? You guessed it: They booked him in an 18-minute match with Triple H at the 2003 Royal Rumble. Steiner was completely gassed after the first couple of spots. Also, keep in mind that Triple H himself had recently suffered from a partial quadriceps tear the month prior. Both men would rest before attempting a power move and then they rested some more. Steiner at times looked like he was going to accidentally drop Triple H on his head. Heck, he almost fell over while doing a gorilla press slam, and at one point of the match, he actually did fall over while attempting to execute a double underhook suplex. Overall, the match was a total mess. Any interest that fans had left in the program (which was already underwhelming to begin with) was instantly killed right there. Any momentum Steiner had completely evaporated after that match.
In terms of disposition, they debuted him as a face when Steiner doesn't really click well as a face imo. He's more of pompous windbag....a guy who's a short-fused loose cannon. That right there, screams heel. It's what he did in WCW and it's what worked well. Plus, the content he was given to work with didn't do him any favors either.
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Post by fortknox on Jun 8, 2021 17:40:43 GMT -5
Did Hunter deadweight him here? It's been awhile since I seen the match but, I'm pretty sure it was because Steiner was blown up a few minutes into the match.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 8, 2021 17:46:20 GMT -5
Should've been used better. This guy was a former WCW World Champion. And they treated him like a f***ing jobber. I get he wasn't in the best condition but still. They threw money away. Have you seen the two outrageously bad main event title matches - and yes, two, not one - they gave him before treating him like a jobber? He debuted as a mega star, was subject to a bidding war between both shows, allowed to basically sexually assault Steph on television, and then worked with peak Reign of Terror Triple H. And then he was terrible, so they took him out of the main event. It's nothing to do with respect. They gave him the world on a silver platter, and he lacked the ability to use a fork. It wasn't entirely his fault, but it definitely isn't all WWE's either.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 8, 2021 21:41:16 GMT -5
I’ve always wondered how he got the drop foot injury though? Did he have it in WCW? This is a good question and I didn't know it off hand either, so I did some digging. While he definitely did begin to suffer from it before the end of his WCW run, I can't find anything specifically linking it to something that happened on WCW television. Any time you kneel or use your knees a lot (or sit crosslegged) for a prolonged period of time, you're risking dropfoot - so it conceivably could have happened working out or traveling. However, he didn't get it officially diagnosed until April 2002 by WWE doctors when they were first looking to sign him. They assured him with physical therapy it would heal on its own and he wouldn't need surgery. So then he waited a few months and then debuted at the end of 2002. Turns out my hunch was correct that Steiner assumed the drop foot would go away on its own as the doctors described, hence why he didn't attempt going under the knife during his whole WWE tenure. Three years after the initial diagnosis he was tired of waiting and opted for surgery, hence the sudden dramatic improvement. Never damage is so strange. The more I've read about it recently, the more sympathetic I am to Steiner. I do wonder had he not returned to the ring for another year or so if the dropfoot truly would have gone away on its own.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 9, 2021 6:43:07 GMT -5
The foot injury but Trips was also hurt during their feud as well (groin injury I believe?) So both were extremely limited. Lance Storm told a story how after those matches he did the house show loop with Scott and the agents gave mostly positive feedback. But Vince and his inner circle lost any interest with the bad showings with Hunter.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 9, 2021 18:13:50 GMT -5
You, The Dixie Chicks, all those Hollywood numb nuts that don’t support Freakzilla...can go STRAIGHT TO HELL! Or France, SAME DIFFERENCE!!! Man, I was genuinely embarrassed to be a wrestling fan during that segment.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 9, 2021 18:26:06 GMT -5
I mean, he was always gonna be a Triple H victim, he just looked f***ing terrible doing it. I suppose he would have gotten a nice little month reign before losing the title back to Triple H but in that time period, it was the Triple H show. No matter who was more over or better.
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Post by thegame415 on Jun 10, 2021 8:14:51 GMT -5
That pop at MSG during Survivor Series tho...
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 10, 2021 8:25:09 GMT -5
Did Hunter deadweight him here? It's been awhile since I seen the match but, I'm pretty sure it was because Steiner was blown up a few minutes into the match. Yeah, Triple H obviously isn't always the most generous guy in the ring, but I don't think he'd want to sandbag a powerbomb of any description. That's a good way to get really f***ed up.
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Post by chronocross on Jun 10, 2021 8:27:50 GMT -5
Did Hunter deadweight him here? Looks like HHH was willing to go up for it as you can see him push off with his legs it's just that Steiner was either gassed or his foot gave out on him.
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