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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 8, 2021 18:24:38 GMT -5
During his 2005-2009 run, he put up bangers but it just seemed, he wasn't THE super Cena he became during the 10's.
So where did all the dislike come from for you personally? There are many moments during this period that might have started it.
Where they one of the following?
a) The Nexus
b) The Miz
c) Summer of Punk
d) Rock
e) Lesnar in 2012
f) Ryback
Or some other moment during this period where you just said, okay, this is getting to be too much?
He wasn't the same super Cena by the end of this period, putting over, Wyatt, Reigns, etc....
Where was the turning point for you and Super Cena?
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jun 8, 2021 19:01:18 GMT -5
This is easy for me. With all of those feuds, they just couldn't allow Cena to actually lose. I don't mean just take a pin, I mean allowing who he's feuding with to have a concrete win without it being being undermined, or trying to transfer that heat back to Cena or someone else.
Even with the Rock and Brock, it was meant to transfer the heat back to Cena.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jun 8, 2021 19:13:47 GMT -5
Five moves of doom and perpetual lack of selling made me strongly dislike him. That being said, two of my favorite matches are from this era and involve Cena, that being vs Punk at MitB 2011 and vs Bryan at Summerslam 2013.
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Post by Fade on Jun 8, 2021 19:17:55 GMT -5
Honestly, probably the 2005-2009 timeframe. The disconnect between fans boo’ing him and the company saying “ f*** you, we’ll push him harder irked me.
From 2010-2017 I was accustomed to it. Same shit but honestly way more entertaining programs/matches for him.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Jun 8, 2021 19:30:53 GMT -5
Probably around the time his album was released.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 8, 2021 19:58:35 GMT -5
Cena's hate was earned in 2005, it was pretty much habit by 2010 - especially since not a thing about him had changed. Sure, he was as solid as solid can be in the ring after 06, but many of the elements that made him unlikable remained the same.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 8, 2021 20:39:56 GMT -5
With Cena it was a case of being a very superman babyface that was on every week for several straight years, which was rare for WWE. Babyfaces like Hogan and before were not often on TV, and those like Bret or Austin didn't have incredibly long runs where they were on the top of the card without long breaks or time below the main event.
Cena being a healthy and consistent presence was a business strength and creative weakness because it made him a stale figure for a long period of time.
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Post by Chiral on Jun 8, 2021 20:50:06 GMT -5
Business-wise he was a steady pillar for WWE in a tumultuous time, onscreen-wise it was just a bummer. They couldn't let him lose or look weak for like five seconds, and he never really passed the baton to a new generation before leaving anyways (4th wall breaking burial and crap match with Reigns doesn't count IMO) so saving up all that invincible time was pretty useless onscreen wise.
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Post by Starshine on Jun 8, 2021 20:54:59 GMT -5
I just didn't really like him to begin with, even during his SmackDown rapper days. It just got worse when he started winning all the time, while that announcers kept gushing on about how much of an underdog he was. I do not think they knew what that word meant. At least be honest about what you're putting in front of me.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 8, 2021 21:15:15 GMT -5
Cena was way more SUPER from 2005-2009 then he was to from 2010-2017. Obviously he was still booked pretty strong during that period too but nowhere near to the extent he was from 2005-09. He never lost during that period and the rare times he did it was usually after a MITB cash in or some other instance where a fresh guy beat him after he had just got finished winning a long match. Honestly from 2013 on while still protected he wasn't getting super booking anymore. Lost to Bryan clean at Summerslam 2013, got destroyed by Brock at Summerslam 2014, lost clean on PPV to non tippy top guys like Del Rio and Owens during his 2015 US Champion era, and was dominated by Styles for a good portion of their feud in second half of 2016-early 2017 despite winning the blow off. Hardly Hogan-Warrior booking.
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 8, 2021 21:16:54 GMT -5
I think if WWE was logical in it's booking, Cena would have been WAY better received. Dude was hot before he the WWE Title and still a bit afterwards, but since his rise came in with the era where the WWE shifted to The Brand is the Top Face/Heel, Cena was the face of that.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 8, 2021 21:22:09 GMT -5
I always wonder if the backlash to an openly strong babyface like Cena is why they’re so gunshy to get behind any babyface to even a lesser extent.
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Post by Andew9001 on Jun 8, 2021 22:08:14 GMT -5
He just got stale and his staleness turned a lot of people off. It's where the whole "Cena wins lol" thing came from. It was just the same old same old with him for years. He made the company a lot of money but i know people who stopped watching because of him and the lack of new things for him.
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