|
|
Post by wildojinx on Jun 22, 2021 15:29:12 GMT -5
|
|
BorneAgain
Fry's dog Seymour
Posts: 20,288
Member is Online
|
Post by BorneAgain on Jun 22, 2021 15:52:34 GMT -5
Honestly TNG was a rank amateur compared to Voyager. The latter program would insert technobabble in stories just to pad out scripts that were running short.
That's how built into the DNA of that show it was.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 16:22:42 GMT -5
Honestly TNG was a rank amateur compared to Voyager. The latter program would insert technobabble in stories just to pad out scripts that were running short. That's how built it was to the DNA of that show. Yeah, kind of the key difference between them is that TNG while it did use it a lot largely used it to add flavor to a situation or as a cheap way to feel more sci-fi-ish while Voyager just routinely treated it as the answer to all problems. Not that TNG didn't do that sometimes, it certainly did, but it wasn't nearly as omnipresent. |
|
|
|
Post by Hit Girl on Jun 22, 2021 16:46:39 GMT -5
No problem existed on Voyager that couldn't be solved by rerouting the deflector through the secondary bypass.
DS9 was largely free of that shit. In fact they subverted it by having O'Brien openly admit he enjoyed fixing all the technical issues on the station as opposed to his old job of standing around in the Enterprise transporter room waiting tediously for something to happen.
|
|
|
|
Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 22, 2021 17:29:34 GMT -5
Data: Readings indicate there is a distortion in the warp field. The energy signal indicates it is rising and continuing to do so will dissipate a large ionic fragmentation that can badly damage our subspace messanger.
Picard: Would we be able to target this distortion by reversing the subspace pulsar intake?
Data: It might be possible as it is a highly localized temporal surge in the warp core's broad spectrum matrix.
----------
Ira Steven Behr, Ron Moore and the rest of the DS9 staff seemed to want to focus the show more on the political so there was less technobabble. The Enterprise was on a science mission so there would be more experiments than required technobabble explanations.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2021 17:38:50 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by wildojinx on Jun 22, 2021 22:01:26 GMT -5
We'll be back after this message from Wilson Countersink Flanges:
|
|
|
|
Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 22, 2021 22:33:45 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jun 22, 2021 23:36:41 GMT -5
This is my favorite one. Basically parodying there own use of technobabble
|
|
|
|
Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 23, 2021 6:34:54 GMT -5
The way I always thought of it was TNG had technobabble in service of the story where Voyager had it instead of story.
And DS9 had its fair share.
|
|
Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 121,045
|
Post by Mozenrath on Jun 23, 2021 6:50:39 GMT -5
The way I always thought of it was TNG had technobabble in service of the story where Voyager had it instead of story. And DS9 had its fair share. Right, and it didn't exactly help that the premise of Voyager kind of invited it. DS9, people come and go off of the station, and it's kind of easy to introduce conflicts through people. TNG, they're exploring, and you can introduce conflicts through that. Voyager, in addition to coming off the heels of both of these shows, so there's already going to be some fatigue with some of this already through fans and writers alike, you also have the whole premise of the Voyager trying to get back. It really painted them into a corner sometimes. |
|
|
|
Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 23, 2021 6:53:45 GMT -5
Makes me think of those Thundercats outtakes
"What the f*** is a samoflange?"
|
|
|
|
Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 23, 2021 7:01:01 GMT -5
The way I always thought of it was TNG had technobabble in service of the story where Voyager had it instead of story. And DS9 had its fair share. Right, and it didn't exactly help that the premise of Voyager kind of invited it. DS9, people come and go off of the station, and it's kind of easy to introduce conflicts through people. TNG, they're exploring, and you can introduce conflicts through that. Voyager, in addition to coming off the heels of both of these shows, so there's already going to be some fatigue with some of this already through fans and writers alike, you also have the whole premise of the Voyager trying to get back. It really painted them into a corner sometimes. There was plenty in the premise of Voyager to create stories and conflict but the producers didnt want to do it. Conservation of resources, avoiding battle at all cost, making alliances, breaking rules, etc. Instead they paid this lip service while just writing the same old stuff. |
|
Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Superior One
Posts: 19,009
|
Post by Celgress on Jul 10, 2021 14:50:00 GMT -5
I don't want to make a new thread for this (clogging up the board) so I'll put it here. My fried tells us about his second favorite trek (TNG being his favorite) -
|
|
|
|
Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jul 10, 2021 16:06:06 GMT -5
Right, and it didn't exactly help that the premise of Voyager kind of invited it. DS9, people come and go off of the station, and it's kind of easy to introduce conflicts through people. TNG, they're exploring, and you can introduce conflicts through that. Voyager, in addition to coming off the heels of both of these shows, so there's already going to be some fatigue with some of this already through fans and writers alike, you also have the whole premise of the Voyager trying to get back. It really painted them into a corner sometimes. There was plenty in the premise of Voyager to create stories and conflict but the producers didnt want to do it. Conservation of resources, avoiding battle at all cost, making alliances, breaking rules, etc. Instead they paid this lip service while just writing the same old stuff. I always found it funny when someone on Voyager complained about stopping at every other space anomaly for science instead of focusing all their energy on getting home was presented as a bad guy. |
|
|
|
Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 10, 2021 18:58:16 GMT -5
There was plenty in the premise of Voyager to create stories and conflict but the producers didnt want to do it. Conservation of resources, avoiding battle at all cost, making alliances, breaking rules, etc. Instead they paid this lip service while just writing the same old stuff. I always found it funny when someone on Voyager complained about stopping at every other space anomaly for science instead of focusing all their energy on getting home was presented as a bad guy. See that was some of the conflict that could have made for an interesting show. The Starfleet crew wanting to fulfill their exploration mission while the Maquis wanting to get home to their families. Over time you could have more and more of the Starfleet coming over to the Maquis side as the isolation starts getting to them. But to give a reason for always stopping its not like they can go full speed constantly. Stopping to check out random anomalies gives the engines a chance to cool down and do some maintenence. |
|
