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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Aug 16, 2021 20:06:13 GMT -5
Lost to Rhea Ripley clean as a sheet this week. Five days before Summerslam. Has not lost to both of her opponents before her first title defense. And she just keeps cutting the same f***ing promo about why she wears her outfit to believe in herself and that she's ALMOST a superhero. This is getting very f***ing dire... I'd say 2008 Punk booking but this may be 2006 Mysterio booking instead minus the Eddiesploitation.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 16, 2021 21:50:21 GMT -5
Just to add insult to injury they did a tag match of Nikki/Rhea vs Charlotte/Jax where Nikki just got her ass kicked the entire time and then Rhea ended up also getting pinned
... The f*** is this booking? This is awful.
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Post by theironyuppie on Aug 16, 2021 22:30:57 GMT -5
Just to add insult to injury they did a tag match of Nikki/Rhea vs Charlotte/Jax where Nikki just got her ass kicked the entire time and then Rhea ended up also getting pinned ... The f*** is this booking? This is awful.
My guess is it's REVERSE MOMENTUM and Nikki's retaining, despite crowd apathy.
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Post by Chiral on Aug 16, 2021 22:36:47 GMT -5
As the weeks go on with this my patience runs thinner with Nikki's "I...talk like this...and I....will show everyone...that I...can be.....almost a super hero...and that...you too...can be...almost a super hero!" promos as she pumps her arms up and down with every phrase, it's REALLY annoying.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 16, 2021 22:43:23 GMT -5
It turns out the answer to what's next was lots and lots of losing.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 16, 2021 22:54:20 GMT -5
As the weeks go on with this my patience runs thinner with Nikki's "I...talk like this...and I....will show everyone...that I...can be.....almost a super hero...and that...you too...can be...almost a super hero!" promos as she pumps her arms up and down with every phrase, it's REALLY annoying. I was looking for good Rusev Day promos today, and was really jarred when I saw a promo confrontation between Rusev & Lana and Andrade & Zelina. Just, after two years of forsaking WWE, I was blasted in the face with WWE Delivery - and like, Zelina and Rusev and Lana were all doing the best they could with it, but it was a stark reminder of how even talented speakers are held back by WWE's promo style. Take a gimmick that can only work with sincerity and good delivery, and it will assuredly die a death.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 23:07:20 GMT -5
I feel almost like I'm brigading sometimes, just because I revile the WWE product and have since at least 2015 if not sooner.
Anyway, I'll shout it from the mountaintops again and again and again: You build sympathy in a babyface who loses by showing them as brave, gutsy, and by giving them a hope spot to where if one little thing had been different, they would have won. You build apathy in a babyface by making them look like hapless morons. The heel should never look cooler than the babyface. I mean, there are exceptions to this, but good lord it has to be booking 101 at this point. This is their biggest problem creatively. This is why they depend on part-timers to be the badass babyfaces who are going to save the day, because they've neutered the roster that's actually there.
It's maddening, and if you enjoy WWE, more power to you, but it's like you're given nothing to be excited about or to care about anymore.
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Post by Totorob101 on Aug 17, 2021 2:04:20 GMT -5
Honestly I think a heel turn would work better for this gimmick,she would start believing she actually is a hero and becomes more and more delusional,and her costume would look badass in black
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 17, 2021 2:09:50 GMT -5
Honestly I think a heel turn would work better for this gimmick,she would start believing she actually is a hero and becomes more and more delusional,and her costume would look badass in black It'd probably make her more over, anyway. Like, no one else has to qualify what they claim to be. You don't see Charlotte calling herself, "Like, a queen, kinda, maybe" or Asuka being called "The Empress of Tomorrow, I mean, if that's alright???" Incidentally, this whole gimmick is why I never thought "Average" Joe Hennig would have been a good gimmick. He'd have just been a goober who talked about being kind of decent, I guess. Turns out, that's not actually very riveting!
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 17, 2021 2:16:43 GMT -5
Either they need to book it better so her confidence or whatever actually has her winning matches and not in FLUKE ways like actually winning matches...
or turn her heel and be like the Heel New Day when they talked about the power of positivity.... have her just be overly fake and facetious about it... and talks about how you can believe in yourself and do anything while openly cheating and stuff....
I'm ok I guess and getting your ass kicked and then MAYBE winning via fluke isn't going to get anyone over...
I mean Hurricane got over by being wacky and doing the I'm as strong as a super heavyweight gag where he'd try to chokeslam people, and then actually do some kinda chokeslam when face... but... like they did stuff with the Superhero... and even when Rosey was in training would do the jump in/out of frame stuff... they're not even really trying to sell the Superhero schtick... almost or otherwise...
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Aug 17, 2021 2:22:58 GMT -5
I'd love to see creative discussing Nikki's booking.
"This Nikki ASH character isn't really catching on. I know, we'll hot shot the title onto her then make her look like a complete loser. That'll get her over!"
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Post by anglarite on Aug 17, 2021 3:16:32 GMT -5
They are just building her turn into a supervillain, seriously.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 17, 2021 4:38:38 GMT -5
I'd love to see creative discussing Nikki's booking. "This Nikki ASH character isn't really catching on. I know, we'll hot shot the title onto her then make her look like a complete loser. That'll get her over!" 'It worked for Rey Mysterio during his first title run!'
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 17, 2021 16:32:15 GMT -5
Honestly I think a heel turn would work better for this gimmick,she would start believing she actually is a hero and becomes more and more delusional,and her costume would look badass in black It'd probably make her more over, anyway. Like, no one else has to qualify what they claim to be. You don't see Charlotte calling herself, "Like, a queen, kinda, maybe" or Asuka being called "The Empress of Tomorrow, I mean, if that's alright???" Incidentally, this whole gimmick is why I never thought "Average" Joe Hennig would have been a good gimmick. He'd have just been a goober who talked about being kind of decent, I guess. Turns out, that's not actually very riveting! Average Joe Hennig would main event anywhere in the country against Mike Sanders and you know it They could put the word 'Above' at the top of a ladder and see who can grab it first
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Post by Welfare Willis on Aug 17, 2021 22:37:58 GMT -5
I'd love to see creative discussing Nikki's booking. "This Nikki ASH character isn't really catching on. I know, we'll hot shot the title onto her then make her look like a complete loser. That'll get her over!" I'm beginning to think that WWE took the wrong lesson from Daniel Bryan. The idea you can beat and beat this person down and people will get behind them. I like Nikki, but Nikki is not Daniel Bryan. In fact, these inspiring speeches she gives kinda rub me the wrong way.
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Post by lockedontarget on Aug 17, 2021 22:45:24 GMT -5
Honestly I think a heel turn would work better for this gimmick,she would start believing she actually is a hero and becomes more and more delusional,and her costume would look badass in black It'd probably make her more over, anyway. Like, no one else has to qualify what they claim to be. You don't see Charlotte calling herself, "Like, a queen, kinda, maybe" or Asuka being called "The Empress of Tomorrow, I mean, if that's alright???" Incidentally, this whole gimmick is why I never thought "Average" Joe Hennig would have been a good gimmick. He'd have just been a goober who talked about being kind of decent, I guess. Turns out, that's not actually very riveting! The Empress of Maybe Later, Someday, I Hope
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 17, 2021 23:06:49 GMT -5
It'd probably make her more over, anyway. Like, no one else has to qualify what they claim to be. You don't see Charlotte calling herself, "Like, a queen, kinda, maybe" or Asuka being called "The Empress of Tomorrow, I mean, if that's alright???" Incidentally, this whole gimmick is why I never thought "Average" Joe Hennig would have been a good gimmick. He'd have just been a goober who talked about being kind of decent, I guess. Turns out, that's not actually very riveting! The Empress of Maybe Later, Someday, I Hope I guess, I could be the Empress, of...maybe, tomorrow or, whenever.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 21, 2021 21:17:55 GMT -5
LOL.
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Post by mistery on Aug 21, 2021 21:21:39 GMT -5
Time to update the thread title!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 21:26:03 GMT -5
Nikki came out there to boos but she also showed more babyface fire than she's ever shown tonight and she got her ass beat for it. The moment she started fighting more tonight I knew her ass would lose.
Just bad.
f*** this ppv fell off a f***ing cliff bruh. Nikki's in a HORRIBLE spot again. She gotta go back to her old self.
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